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The Melian Dialogue

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Peter Truong

on 6 April 2015

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Transcript of The Melian Dialogue

Summary
International politics
Negotiation before evasion
Neutral state
Athens
Strength in numbers (large army)
Arrogant
Realist
Athenians
"surrender or destruction"
Melians
Neutral state
Colonist of Lacdaemonians
Idealist
Thank you!
History
The Peloponnesian War 431 - 404 BC
Athens vs. Sparta
Melian Dialogue (416 BC)
Melos - Neutral island
Thucydides


Questions

Based on the Melian dialogue is Thucydides more of a realist or a idealist?

Can international politics be guided by the idea of justice?
The Melian Dialogue
excerpted from Thucydides
Melians
Strength:
Neutral State (island)
Higher power of justice
Reasoning
Athens entering Melos
Strengths:
Resources
Power
Authority
Weaknesses:
Power blind
A lot of enemies
Self-interested
Weaknesses:
Dependant on others
False sense of honour
Wishful thinking
Paula, Peter and Sony
Hum 302
Debate
Athens: Opening statement
Melians: Opening statement
Athens: First Response
Melians: Rebuttal
Melians: First Response
Athens: Rebuttal
Athens: Second Response
Melians: Rebuttal
Melians: Second Response
Athens: Rebuttal
Melians: Closing statement
Athens: Closing statement
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