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# Don Zilano device 01

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never confuse wire with a violin string. string vibrate and we feel vibrations where as in wires thin or thick magnetic and electric fields vibrate not the wire. yes thick wire will have low impedance and thin wire have high impedance.
impedance = resistance in ac circuits. if wire is thick oscillations stay longer where as in thin wire they die fast.
thick wire - thin wire
frequency depends upon the wirelength of primary coil we r going to use

its calculated by formula

length of wire in feet=246/freq. in mhz
secondary is 4 times of primary and if bifilar wounded its 8 times

even a 60 hz old nst can be used and also latest solid state 30 or 40 khz nst can be used.

nst is just power supply and its freuency only helps to charge primary cap faster.

DIODE HELPS TO PREVENT DAMAGE FROM SEC COIL VOLTAGE SPIKES
1. well we match impedance of nst with cap. so efficient power transfer of nst to cap. moreover its also to match timming of 50 hz or wotever frequency u have for nst. so cap charging cycles r timed correctly (only when we r using ac) if we r using dc as in case of dons circuit-diodes after the nst then we dont need to calculate cap and just follow length of primary and match cap for the inductance of primary and we can stick to 246mhz or 123 mhz)

2. well in case of flyback we dont know voltage and milli amps so we use hit n trial method. as flyback has diode built in(color tv/color monitor) we just calculate L of primary and calculate c using formula f=1/2*pi*rootLC. and just feed the two wires of flyback in series with spark gap or parallel spark gap to either parallel LC or series LC
primary circuit.

3. Well a single tesla when erthed from bottom and around bottom 1/4 wavelength primary triggers it so it resonates at 1/4 of its wavelength. here we have two tesla coils joined at base and we r with primary resonating at 1/4 so it will make 2 tesla coils to resonate independently at 1/4 of its wavelength. coz middle is base of 2 tesla coils joined back to back of bifilar is earthed.

4. again at secondary we r matching 1/4 wave but coils r joined so we add cap to one tesla bifilar. so primary n sec resonate at 1/4. here the trick is we harvesting 2 outputs with single primary resonating input. bifilars r used to divide voltage into independent unit one tesla producing amps and other tesla voltage. we can tap more amps and less voltage by tapping less turns on voltage producing tesla and more turns on current producing tesla by using a rheostat like tapping slider on tesla coils.

5. there r many ways. one we can step down using similar tesla coil. or when we make coil we decide voltage of secondary by having less turns on secondary so its diameter is bigger. we can make coils to get 110 volts by using a single turn of secondary or by using a little say quarter portion of secondary.
watch carefully the pic of kapanadze coil green box . the coil u see which is biggest has been tapped not at ends but a portion of the turn.
thats giving kapanadze 5kw else kapanadze said it was giving 200kw so they made it suitable for 5 kw.

well the last part of ur question is if we use frequency in kilo hertz say 30 khz=30/1000=.03mhz

formula for finding length of resonant wire is

length of resonant wire in feet=246/freq. in mhz
so its 246/.03mhz =8200 feet
which is too big coil

so we use 246/246mhz= 1 feet
or 246/123=2 feet
which are manageable in winding.

regards
To fetch power u must have two tesla coil one to step up and one to step down. in my earlier circuit i made nst as tesla coil to step up 4000 volts and then did step down. to 250 volts then added diodes and caps for 250 volts and got results. since all of u cant make heavy gauge nst so its better for u all to use nst/flyback to power tesla as step up and use step down either by aircore transformer or using another tesla as step down. the idea is to get low voltage in range of 110,120,220,250 etc.reverse tesla lowers voltage and keeps resonance working so amps are not lost. dont use choke AT CENTRE OF BIFILAR choke acts as resistor for ac AND INCREASES VOLTAGE so it slashes amps. WE NEED AN RF CHOKE to correct ripple after diodes with caps(pi filter configuration) so u get pure ripple free 110,120,250 dc or even 12 v dc by voltage divider circuit. and use invertor or push pull with heavy ac transformer. and if u use ferrite in the centre of primary u get more than 70-100 amps. voltage divider just slashes voltage and amps will always be there.

i gave u all the hint of step down so its easier to handle power produced and ac caps at low voltage r cheap and affordable so the diodes too. all the diodes and caps r needed after step down.
simple calculations that will make u coil ringing correctly

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hI Folks!

"For those not well acquainted with Tesla coil design and operation, Hull begins by pointing out that, fundamentally, grounding the base end of a vertical coil forces a node at that end, and the coil resonates at its natural 1/4-wavelength frequency. A "good" ground connection is a must. If, however, the coil is ungrounded, and typically placed in an elevated, horizontal position, the coil then self-resonates at its natural 1/2-wavelength frequency with a node forced at the center. "

Nikola Tesla (1856-1943) among its many incredible inventions / insights, also made this curious machine capable of generating high-voltage discharge. For many a teslacoil is a transformer, but it is an inappropriate term: the Tesla coil is not based on the principle of operation of the common transformer!
There are various types of teslacoil:
-SSTC (Solid State Tesla Coil): teslacoil of this type is called "solid state" as it is controlled by an electrical circuit with no moving parts and no spark gap. The resonant frequency is generated directly by an electronic circuit.
-VTTC (Vacuum Tube Teslacoil): For fans of the genre, these works with vacuum tubes. To get really interesting discharges, you need to find huge military-type valves such as GU81M in some market places or specialized electronics distributors. The peculiarity of VTTCs is the high frequency of operation, generating harmless sparks via the skin effect, and you can tap them with your fingers!
-SGTC (Spark Gap Tesla Coil): This is the most famous and classic teslacoil, which we will explain below. Bases its operation on the appropriate size of a few components.
The aim in any case is to generate a resonant frequency on the primary winding that resonate on the secondary circuit, which must receive energy as a real antenna, but turning it to high voltages by reducing the amperage accordingly: in fact it is not free energy, since the energy output does not exceed the energy supplied.

HERE THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS CORRECT TESLA COIL IS NOT OVERUNITY. BUT ITS TRUE ONLY WHEN THE XCITING PRIMARY IS AT THE BASE OF SECONDARY COIL. IN DONS CIRCUIT ITS IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO BIFILARS SECONDARIES WHICH CHANGES WHOLE SCENARIO AS WE SPLIT TESLA COILS AS ONE PRODUCING AMPS AND OTHER PRODUCING VOLTAGE AND WE CAN TAP MORE AMPS AND LESS VOLTAGE IF THAT IS SUITED TO OUR NEEDS. MOREOVER THE BLUE STREAKS THAT WERE AMAZEMENT FUN IS CONVERTED TO USEFUL ENERGY.

XCESS POWER IS PRODUCED. WITH MIDDLE XCITING WITH BIFILARS.

How it works?

DON SMITH COIL IS TESLA COIL WITH A COMBO OF SINGLE PRIMARY AND 2 SECONDARIES BACK TO BACK. RESONATING AT 1/4

An SGTC teslacoil is based on two circuits oscillating at the same frequency:

Primary oscillating circuit Secondary oscillating circuit
A generator produces a frequency of 50Hz at high voltage, typically between 4 and 12kv describing a wave that repeats itself over time 50 times per second:

When the half-wave is rising up, the primary capacitor is charged and the spark gap, which acts as an automatic switch, is opened to allow charging of the capacitor. The circuit must be designed so that the spark gap closes when the half-wave reaches its peak and the primary capacitor is at maximum charge!

When the spark gap closes, the high voltage generator is electrically separated from the circuit formed by the capacitor and the primary winding. In this condition, the capacitor start oscillating with the primary, and acts as a transmitter at a frequency that is the resonance frequency of the LC circuit:

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...d=131495241 5

The oscillation of the LC circuit is repeated until the charge is dissipated.

When the capacitor charge is completely dissipated during the oscillation, the spark gap no longer has enough energy to stay active, then it opens again, and begins a new cycle of charging the primary capacitor, thus repeating the above steps. This circuit without the secondary, it's just a powerful radio frequency transmitter.

The secondary circuit is a circuit that oscillates at the same frequency of the primary, but the value of the secondary inductance is much larger but still have the same frequency because C2 is a smaller capacitor compared to the primary C1 (the torus). This is the difference that introduce the big voltage amplification!

For optimum configuration of the secondary, you should adjust it to 1 / 4 of its natural frequency of oscillation, this allows for the highest point of the coil, a maximum voltage (this says the legend, and the experiments confirms...) To obtain this frequency is used just to add on top of the secondary coil a toroid or a sphere of the correct capacitance. If you imagine the wave of charge that develops on the side of the coil, you drop the peak point at the summit, the last loop: So here we have the maximum voltage at the minimum current, with discharges less dangerous and more longer! If the circuit is not sized correctly and the voltage peak point was lower, along the winding, this can lead to surface discharges over the coil with the consequent failure of the insulation and winding damage...

Imagine being on the swing, you swing your legs back and forth: the swing is initially barely fluctuates, but insisted the oscillation will increase even more. In this example, your legs are the primary winding and the secondary coil are the swing. If you continue swinging the legs (the primary using the capacitor charge) that will increase more and more and the oscillation of the swing will follow exactly the motion of your legs, but still further increases, is getting higher and higher. This is the voltage increase! The primary continues transmitting its energy to the secondary that is already oscillating, adding the two waves with each new oscillation, just like a swing. This is why it is important that the two circuits can oscillate at the same frequency!

The main components of a Teslacoil:

since we r using diode after nst so we have dc(though rippled one. its better we use fwbr=full wave bridge rectifier and make hvdc then feed primary cap) but half wave will also do. kapanadze used fwbr.

FIRST FIND LENGTH OF PRIMARY

LENGTH IN FEET=246/FREQUENCY IN MHZ

SAY U GET X FEET
PRIMARY=X FEET
SECONDARY BIFILAR=4X FEET AND 4X FEET

MEASURE PRIMARY INDUCTANCE L

AND USE FORMULA for calcualtion of primary capacitor C1

f=1/2*pi*squareroot of LC
f sqr=1/4*pi sqrLC
C1= 4*f sqr/pi*L

(CALCULATION OF SEC CAPACITOR C2)

meaure L2 individually make sure both secondary bifilars have same inductance L2

As L2 inductance of the secondary coil and Fq the frequency at quarter-wave of the coil:

fq=246 mhz when u r using (1 feet=246/freq in mhz(246))of primary and 4 feet of secondary

C2 = 1 / (4*P2*Fq2*L2)

or

c2=1/4pi sqrd*fq sqrd*L2

attach this cap c2 on one bifilar not across both bifilars

note: the pic attached down below is DONS REVERSE TESLA. HERE WE DONT USE CAP AND THE HIGH FREQUENCY OF NST(SOLID STATE) IS DIRECTLY USED. SINCE WIRE LENGTHS ARE IN 1:4 RATIO SO THE SYSTEM IS IN RESONANCE. THIS IS CHEAPEST WAY TO GET POWER DON WAY

ALSO VERY IMPORTANT

How To Build A Spark Gap Tesla Coil (SGTC)

JavaScript Tesla Coil Calculator

Also veryyyyyyyyyy important

Classic Tesla Coil Design

http://tayloredge.com/reference/Machines/TeslaCoil.pdf

QUARTER WAVE LENGTH FREQUENCY CALCULATOR

Frequency Wavelength Calculator

site for caps and mmc and matching transformer with capacitor

DeepFriedNeon - Tesla Coils

page to understand resonance of the circuit and timing !

Resonant charging

Power harvesting with dons circuit

dons circuit power at resonance

W=0.5*C*V.SQRD*HZ.SQRD

where w= energy in joules or watt second

since 1 joule=1 watt sec

so we raise frequency and voltage it gives greater power.

regards

ZELINA ZILANO ZEIS ZANE

IN SENSE N SANE!
Attached Images spark gap position in ac driven tesla coil.jpg (28.1 KB, 112 views)
Table_top_SGTC_schematic.JPG (13.6 KB, 123 views)
don circuit for old style 50 hz nst.jpg (35.5 KB, 15 views)
don reverse tesla easyway.jpg (20.6 KB, 12 views)
PLZ DO READ ELSE U WONT BE ABLE TO FIND RESONANCE.

AM REALLY SO SORRY FOR TELLING U FORCED FREQUENCY CALCULATION OF WIRE. SO AM WRITING AGAIN TO U TO FOLLOW NATURAL RESONANT FREUENCY OF THE WIRE LENGTH. I HAVE LCR METER I CAN MANAGE ANY WIRE LENGTH AND MAKE IT FORCE RESONATE.

BUT FOR BEST HARVEST AND LOW INPUT WE NEED TO USE NATURAL RESONANT FREQUENCY OF WIRE

LENGTH OF WIRE IN FEET=246/FREQ IN MHZ

USE 246/246MHZ= 1 FEET OR

246/24.6MHZ= 10 FEET

note here frequency is 24.6mhz so we have to match the right cap for this frequency.

IN THIS WAY U GET NATURAL RESONANT length OF THE WIRE.

mistake is deeply regretted
here 35.1khz nst in don circuit is just power supply but coils resonate at 246mhz or 24.6 mhz. we can use don nst 30.1 khz and use wire length it will be very long hard to wind also. so we stick to 24.6mhz or 246mhz and get manageable lengths.

in my case i forced resonate it. but its better to use natural resonant length

regards

zzz
Coil Tuner
"For those not well acquainted with Tesla coil design and operation, Hull begins by pointing out that, fundamentally, grounding the base end of a vertical coil forces a node at that end, and the coil resonates at its natural 1/4-wavelength frequency. A "good" ground connection is a must. If, however, the coil is ungrounded, and typically placed in an elevated, horizontal position, the coil then self-resonates at its natural 1/2-wavelength frequency with a node forced at the center. "

If we place a quantity of electrical energy into the coil and do it quickly enough, the coil will ring at its natural resonant frequency, much like a bell. Voltage nodes and peaks will appear along the coil. If the coil is floating in free space, it will tend to oscillate at its natural 1/2-wavelength resonant frequency, and each end of the coil will exhibit a voltage peak while a voltage nodal point will exist in the exact center of the coil. If, however, we ground the base of the coil, this is a forced nodal point and the coil will oscillate at its natural 1/4-wave resonant frequency. The results will be enhanced if the energy is pulsed into the coil at its exact resonant frequency. The effect is called resonant rise, and the coil a helical resonator. A standing wave appears on the classic 1/4-wave resonator which has a current peak at its base or ground point and a current node at the top of the coil. Likewise, there exists a voltage nodal point at the ground or base of the coil and a voltage peak at the top. Resonant rise is a function of the current value at the base of the resonator and the "Q" or quality factor of the resonator. This quality factor is determined by the inductance of the coil, its resonant frequency and the AC resistive losses within the coil. This is all that enters into the equation as long as the coil is free and floating in the "perfect vacuum" of interstellar space! To my knowledge, no coil in history has ever completely satisfied the equation for Q!

In the real world, Q is most affected by the coil form that the wire is wound upon, specifically its composition and thickness. There is another "evil" with which Tesla did battle constantly, and never so boldly as when at Colorado Springs, that is known as inter-turn capacitance. In addition to self inductance, a coil of wire also has internal or distributed capacitance created by the proximity of the adjacent turns to one another. Each turn is like a small capacitor plate which interacts capacitively with each turn adjacent to itself. Both the form factor and the internal self capacitance work to reduce the resonator Q. Finally, near effects by things such as the ground, metal objects, etc., all conspire to make the real world Q an almost impossible value to calculate.

Why all the fuss about Q? This is what Tesla terms the "magnification factor" and is directly related to the efficiency of all Tesla coil or similar resonant systems. And, this is what makes a magnifying transmitter into the ultimate Tesla coil.
frequency depends upon the wirelength of primary coil we r going to use

its calculated by formula

length of wire in feet=246/freq. in mhz
secondary is 4 times of primary and if bifilar wounded its 8 times

read my post on page 23 of this thread where i explained how to calculate the primary capacitor.

even a 60 hz old nst can be used and also latest solid state 30 or 40 khz nst can be used.

nst is just power supply and its freuency only helps to charge primary cap faster.

DIODE HELPS TO PREVENT DAMAGE FROM SEC COIL VOLTAGE SPIKES
Frequency depends upon the wirelength of primary coil we r going to use
HERE THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS CORRECT TESLA COIL IS NOT OVERUNITY. BUT ITS TRUE ONLY WHEN THE XCITING PRIMARY IS AT THE BASE OF SECONDARY COIL. IN DONS CIRCUIT ITS IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO BIFILARS SECONDARIES WHICH CHANGES WHOLE SCENARIO AS WE SPLIT TESLA COILS AS ONE PRODUCING AMPS AND OTHER PRODUCING VOLTAGE AND WE CAN TAP MORE AMPS AND LESS VOLTAGE IF THAT IS SUITED TO OUR NEEDS. MOREOVER THE BLUE STREAKS THAT WERE AMAZEMENT FUN IS CONVERTED TO USEFUL ENERGY.

XCESS POWER IS PRODUCED. WITH MIDDLE XCITING WITH BIFILARS.
08-31-2011, 07:13 PM
zilano
Senior Member Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 291

simple calculations that will make u coil ringing correctly

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hI Folks!

"For those not well acquainted with Tesla coil design and operation, Hull begins by pointing out that, fundamentally, grounding the base end of a vertical coil forces a node at that end, and the coil resonates at its natural 1/4-wavelength frequency. A "good" ground connection is a must. If, however, the coil is ungrounded, and typically placed in an elevated, horizontal position, the coil then self-resonates at its natural 1/2-wavelength frequency with a node forced at the center. "

Nikola Tesla (1856-1943) among its many incredible inventions / insights, also made this curious machine capable of generating high-voltage discharge. For many a teslacoil is a transformer, but it is an inappropriate term: the Tesla coil is not based on the principle of operation of the common transformer!
There are various types of teslacoil:
-SSTC (Solid State Tesla Coil): teslacoil of this type is called "solid state" as it is controlled by an electrical circuit with no moving parts and no spark gap. The resonant frequency is generated directly by an electronic circuit.
-VTTC (Vacuum Tube Teslacoil): For fans of the genre, these works with vacuum tubes. To get really interesting discharges, you need to find huge military-type valves such as GU81M in some market places or specialized electronics distributors. The peculiarity of VTTCs is the high frequency of operation, generating harmless sparks via the skin effect, and you can tap them with your fingers!
-SGTC (Spark Gap Tesla Coil): This is the most famous and classic teslacoil, which we will explain below. Bases its operation on the appropriate size of a few components.
The aim in any case is to generate a resonant frequency on the primary winding that resonate on the secondary circuit, which must receive energy as a real antenna, but turning it to high voltages by reducing the amperage accordingly: in fact it is not free energy, since the energy output does not exceed the energy supplied.

HERE THE ABOVE STATEMENT IS CORRECT TESLA COIL IS NOT OVERUNITY. BUT ITS TRUE ONLY WHEN THE XCITING PRIMARY IS AT THE BASE OF SECONDARY COIL. IN DONS CIRCUIT ITS IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO BIFILARS SECONDARIES WHICH CHANGES WHOLE SCENARIO AS WE SPLIT TESLA COILS AS ONE PRODUCING AMPS AND OTHER PRODUCING VOLTAGE AND WE CAN TAP MORE AMPS AND LESS VOLTAGE IF THAT IS SUITED TO OUR NEEDS. MOREOVER THE BLUE STREAKS THAT WERE AMAZEMENT FUN IS CONVERTED TO USEFUL ENERGY.

XCESS POWER IS PRODUCED. WITH MIDDLE XCITING WITH BIFILARS.

How it works?

DON SMITH COIL IS TESLA COIL WITH A COMBO OF SINGLE PRIMARY AND 2 SECONDARIES BACK TO BACK. RESONATING AT 1/4

An SGTC teslacoil is based on two circuits oscillating at the same frequency:

Primary oscillating circuit Secondary oscillating circuit
A generator produces a frequency of 50Hz at high voltage, typically between 4 and 12kv describing a wave that repeats itself over time 50 times per second:

When the half-wave is rising up, the primary capacitor is charged and the spark gap, which acts as an automatic switch, is opened to allow charging of the capacitor. The circuit must be designed so that the spark gap closes when the half-wave reaches its peak and the primary capacitor is at maximum charge!

When the spark gap closes, the high voltage generator is electrically separated from the circuit formed by the capacitor and the primary winding. In this condition, the capacitor start oscillating with the primary, and acts as a transmitter at a frequency that is the resonance frequency of the LC circuit:

http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...d=131495241 5

The oscillation of the LC circuit is repeated until the charge is dissipated.

When the capacitor charge is completely dissipated during the oscillation, the spark gap no longer has enough energy to stay active, then it opens again, and begins a new cycle of charging the primary capacitor, thus repeating the above steps. This circuit without the secondary, it's just a powerful radio frequency transmitter.

The secondary circuit is a circuit that oscillates at the same frequency of the primary, but the value of the secondary inductance is much larger but still have the same frequency because C2 is a smaller capacitor compared to the primary C1 (the torus). This is the difference that introduce the big voltage amplification!

For optimum configuration of the secondary, you should adjust it to 1 / 4 of its natural frequency of oscillation, this allows for the highest point of the coil, a maximum voltage (this says the legend, and the experiments confirms...) To obtain this frequency is used just to add on top of the secondary coil a toroid or a sphere of the correct capacitance. If you imagine the wave of charge that develops on the side of the coil, you drop the peak point at the summit, the last loop: So here we have the maximum voltage at the minimum current, with discharges less dangerous and more longer! If the circuit is not sized correctly and the voltage peak point was lower, along the winding, this can lead to surface discharges over the coil with the consequent failure of the insulation and winding damage...

Imagine being on the swing, you swing your legs back and forth: the swing is initially barely fluctuates, but insisted the oscillation will increase even more. In this example, your legs are the primary winding and the secondary coil are the swing. If you continue swinging the legs (the primary using the capacitor charge) that will increase more and more and the oscillation of the swing will follow exactly the motion of your legs, but still further increases, is getting higher and higher. This is the voltage increase! The primary continues transmitting its energy to the secondary that is already oscillating, adding the two waves with each new oscillation, just like a swing. This is why it is important that the two circuits can oscillate at the same frequency!

The main components of a Teslacoil:

since we r using diode after nst so we have dc(though rippled one. its better we use fwbr=full wave bridge rectifier and make hvdc then feed primary cap) but half wave will also do. kapanadze used fwbr.

FIRST FIND LENGTH OF PRIMARY

LENGTH IN FEET=246/FREQUENCY IN MHZ

SAY U GET X FEET
PRIMARY=X FEET
SECONDARY BIFILAR=4X FEET AND 4X FEET

MEASURE PRIMARY INDUCTANCE L

AND USE FORMULA for calcualtion of primary capacitor C1

f=1/2*pi*squareroot of LC
f sqr=1/4*pi sqrLC
C1= 4*f sqr/pi*L

(CALCULATION OF SEC CAPACITOR C2)

meaure L2 individually make sure both secondary bifilars have same inductance L2

As L2 inductance of the secondary coil and Fq the frequency at quarter-wave of the coil:

fq=246 mhz when u r using (1 feet=246/freq in mhz(246))of primary and 4 feet of secondary

C2 = 1 / (4*P2*Fq2*L2)

or

c2=1/4pi sqrd*fq sqrd*L2

attach this cap c2 on one bifilar not across both bifilars

note: the pic attached down below is DONS REVERSE TESLA. HERE WE DONT USE CAP AND THE HIGH FREQUENCY OF NST(SOLID STATE) IS DIRECTLY USED. SINCE WIRE LENGTHS ARE IN 1:4 RATIO SO THE SYSTEM IS IN RESONANCE. THIS IS CHEAPEST WAY TO GET POWER DON WAY

ALSO VERY IMPORTANT

How To Build A Spark Gap Tesla Coil (SGTC)

JavaScript Tesla Coil Calculator

Also veryyyyyyyyyy important

Classic Tesla Coil Design

http://tayloredge.com/reference/Machines/TeslaCoil.pdf

QUARTER WAVE LENGTH FREQUENCY CALCULATOR

Frequency Wavelength Calculator

site for caps and mmc and matching transformer with capacitor

DeepFriedNeon - Tesla Coils

page to understand resonance of the circuit and timing !

Resonant charging

Power harvesting with dons circuit

dons circuit power at resonance

W=0.5*C*V.SQRD*HZ.SQRD

where w= energy in joules or watt second

since 1 joule=1 watt sec

so we raise frequency and voltage it gives greater power.

regards

ZELINA ZILANO ZEIS ZANE

IN SENSE N SANE!
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Last edited by zilano : Yesterday at 05:21 PM.
http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/resonant.html
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-23.html
page 23
http://www.amazing1.com/transformers.htm
http://www.teslacoildesign.com/#design
its a misconception that don smith circuits draw power from ground which is not actually true. the energy is drawn from the resonance where minimal input needed for maximum output. earth grounding is necessary to maintain proper voltage for the circuit to operate.since here we r dealing with high voltages and high voltages often associated with streamers they are small arc voltages jumping like small tesla arcs which are irritating. they r produced by high voltage leakage causing imbalance to resonance.

we often come across having one phase with low voltage and if one need to increase voltage one can use this phase and an earth ground as neutral wire and light a bulb better than using one phase and a neutral wire.

earth just sucks in power not give out power. earth is just a great good conductor. so fellows shun ur misconception that dons power or kapanadze power coming from ground. its not its coming from resonance. and resonance is often reffered to as ambient environment. it just multiplies input to give multiplied output. we have two inputs frequency and voltage and resonance gives squared product of the two. if ur input is twice u get (2x2)x(2x2)= 4x4 = 16 times more with twice times input. that is voltage squared X frequency squared. thats the little secret!

tesla found it used it and all others followed tesla including me.
Post start
http://www.whatcircuits.com/lc-resonance-frequency-calculator/
Calculations
demo setup! can be upscaled for home use!

take a 12 v 220 or 110 volt 1 amps step down transformer with 2 wires primary and 2 wires secondary measure L of primary with lcr meter and use resonance calculator to calculate caps for 50 or 60 hz. use this cap across primary. then calculate L of secondary with LCR meter and use resonance calc to get secondary caps value for secondary 50 or 60 hz. now take another 12v 220 v or 12 v 110 v 1 amp transformer. feed 12 v ac to ur resonating transformer with caps to its primary it will make it oscillate in resonance with secondary of resonating secondary with caps. attach a 220 v or 110 v as ur trasnformer u r using attach load. measure input power and output power and calculate gain. use iron cored transformers. core is suitable for 50 hz resonance. attach caps in parallel across primary and secondary of the transformer.

RESONANCE FREQUENCY IS 50 OR 60 HZ DEPENDING UR GRID SUPPLY FREQUENCY COUNTRY DEPENDENT. FIND CAPS ACCORDINGLY. VOLTAGE WILL BE 12 VOLT OR 110 OR 220 VOLT OR CAPS.EG C=X MFD 60 HZ 12 V OR C=X MFD 120 V. MFD= microfarads.
ZZZ AGAIN!

TELL U WHY AM ZZZ COZ LIGHTENING BOLTS R ALWAYS Z SHAPED. LOL. TESLA STREAKS!

DON BASICS SAY HAVE HIGH VOLTAGE AND HIGH FREQUENCY AND THEN JUST STEP DOWN.

NST= NEON SIGN TRANSFORMER

CAUTION: NST HAVE HIGH VOLTAGES CAN EVEN KILL U IF HANDLED IMPROPERLY. BE CAREFUL WHILE HANDLING THEM. DO FOLLOW SAFETY NORMS. READ SAFETY POSTS I POSTED EARLIER

UR NST SOLID STATE IS ONE TESLA COIL IT HAS FERRITE CORE. IT HAS HIGH VOLTAGE AND HIGH FREQUENCY. HERE U DONT NEED ANOTHER TESLA COIL. U JUST NEED STEP DOWN ONLY AIRCORE OR FERRITE CORE.

FERRITE CORE USED FOR HIGH FREQUENCIES. AIRCORE CAN ALSO HANDLE HIGH FREQUENCIES IF U DONT HAVE FERRITE BUT OUTPUT AMPS HAVE NOT MUCH STRENGTH. AS COMPARED TO FERRITE CORES IN OUTPUT TRANSFORMERS.

NORMAL NST HAVE JUST HIGH VOLTAGE AND THEY HAVE IRONCORE. FREQUENCY IS 50 OR 60 HZ DEPENDING ON GRID SUPPLY FREQUENCY. SO U HAVE TO USE TESLA COIL TO MAKE HIGH VOLTAGE AND HIGH FREQUENCY.
AND THEN U NEED STEP DOWN.

STEPDOWN CAN BE AIRCORED OR FERRITE CORE UNLESS U HAVE FREQUENCY 50 HZ. OR 60 HZ

FERRITE CORE CAN BE USED FOR 50 HZ OR 60 HZ THEY RUN COOL. THEY DONT HEAT UP.

WARNING: NEVER FEED HIGH FREQUENCY ABOVE 50 HZ OR 60 HZ TO IRON CORED TRANSFORMER IT WILL BURN TO FLAMES. USE FERRITE OR AIRCORE FOR HIGH FREQUENCIES.

READ TRANSFORMER BASICS LINK IN ONE OF MY POSTS AND MAKE STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER ACCORDINGLY. BUT U MUST KNOW OUTPUT VOLTAGE AND MAKE COILS ACCORDINGLY OF THE TRANSFORMER WITH AMPS IN CONSIDERATION IN OUTPUT AS WELL AS AMPS IN THE INPUT SIDE OF TRANSFORMER.

AN AIRCORE TESLA COIL CAN BE USED AS STEP DOWN IN REVERSE TESLA COIL FASHION. MEANS THIN PRIMARY AND THICK SECONDARY AS (OUTPUT) INSIDE THE THIN PRIMARY. AT THE CENTRE.

IMPORTANT: A STEP DOWN MUST RESONATE!

TIP: COPPER COATED WELDING RODS CAN BE USED IN A BUNDLE AS A REPLACEMENT OF FERRITE CORE. A SUBSTITUTE. WORKS FINE.

IN A NUTSHELL: MAKE AIRCORE REVERSE TESLA COIL. MAKE IT RESONATE WITH UR NST. THEN USE DIODE BRIDGE AND VOLTAGE DIVIDER AND USE PI FILTER GET 12 OR 24 VOLTS DC. then invertor OR use RESISTOR ACROSS INPUT SIDE OF IRON CORE TRANSFORMER MEASURE L WITH LCR METER AND USE REACTANCE CHART PAGE 23 OF BOOK ELECTRONIC TABLES AND FORMULAS UPLOADED BY ME IN ONE OF MY POST.TO FIND VALUE OF RESISTOR IN ACCORDANCE WITH 100 OR 120 HZ FOR GETTING FREQUENCY 50 OR 60 HZ BUT U MUST KNOW WATTAGE OF RESISTOR FOR THAT U MUST KNOW VOLTAGE AND AMPS USE FORMULA P=VI WHERE P= WATTS V= VOLTS AND I= AMPS AND ALSO V=IR AND R=V/I

IMPORTANT: USE PT= POTENTIAL TRANSFORMER TO MEASURE HIGH VOLTAGE AC AND CT=CURRENT TRANSFORMER TO MEASURE AMPERES

MYTH: PEOPLE TEND TO THINK LOAD ALTERS RESONANCE BUT ITS JUST FALLACY TO THINK THAT. U HAVE CLEAR EXAMPLE OF CRYSTAL RADIO SET. THE TUNED FREQUENCY REMAINS SAME AND U HEAR MUSIK STILL. SO LOAD DONT CHANGE RESONANCE AND DERATES IT. IT JUST A SWITCH of TAP AND WATER KEEPS COMING! wash or bathe ur decision.

HOPE U UNDERSTAND BASICS NOW

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Hi the the basic key is resonance and the spark. until u have both working u will have xcess energy always. and when u step down it doesnt mean u r reducing power as its known, at resonance resistance of circuit is zero so u have power available whether u step up or step down.
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DON BASICS SAY HAVE HIGH VOLTAGE AND HIGH FREQUENCY AND THEN JUST STEP DOWN.

NST= NEON SIGN TRANSFORMER

CAUTION: NST HAVE HIGH VOLTAGES CAN EVEN KILL U IF HANDLED IMPROPERLY. BE CAREFUL WHILE HANDLING THEM. DO FOLLOW SAFETY NORMS. READ SAFETY POSTS I POSTED EARLIER

UR NST SOLID STATE IS ONE TESLA COIL IT HAS FERRITE CORE. IT HAS HIGH VOLTAGE AND HIGH FREQUENCY. HERE U DONT NEED ANOTHER TESLA COIL. U JUST NEED STEP DOWN ONLY AIRCORE OR FERRITE CORE.

FERRITE CORE USED FOR HIGH FREQUENCIES. AIRCORE CAN ALSO HANDLE HIGH FREQUENCIES IF U DONT HAVE FERRITE BUT OUTPUT AMPS HAVE NOT MUCH STRENGTH. AS COMPARED TO FERRITE CORES IN OUTPUT TRANSFORMERS.

NORMAL NST HAVE JUST HIGH VOLTAGE AND THEY HAVE IRONCORE. FREQUENCY IS 50 OR 60 HZ DEPENDING ON GRID SUPPLY FREQUENCY. SO U HAVE TO USE TESLA COIL TO MAKE HIGH VOLTAGE AND HIGH FREQUENCY.
AND THEN U NEED STEP DOWN.

STEPDOWN CAN BE AIRCORED OR FERRITE CORE UNLESS U HAVE FREQUENCY 50 HZ. OR 60 HZ

FERRITE CORE CAN BE USED FOR 50 HZ OR 60 HZ THEY RUN COOL. THEY DONT HEAT UP.

WARNING: NEVER FEED HIGH FREQUENCY ABOVE 50 HZ OR 60 HZ TO IRON CORED TRANSFORMER IT WILL BURN TO FLAMES. USE FERRITE OR AIRCORE FOR HIGH FREQUENCIES.

READ TRANSFORMER BASICS LINK IN ONE OF MY POSTS AND MAKE STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER ACCORDINGLY. BUT U MUST KNOW OUTPUT VOLTAGE AND MAKE COILS ACCORDINGLY OF THE TRANSFORMER WITH AMPS IN CONSIDERATION IN OUTPUT AS WELL AS AMPS IN THE INPUT SIDE OF TRANSFORMER.

AN AIRCORE TESLA COIL CAN BE USED AS STEP DOWN IN REVERSE TESLA COIL FASHION. MEANS THIN PRIMARY AND THICK SECONDARY AS (OUTPUT) INSIDE THE THIN PRIMARY. AT THE CENTRE.

IMPORTANT: A STEP DOWN MUST RESONATE!

TIP: COPPER COATED WELDING RODS CAN BE USED IN A BUNDLE AS A REPLACEMENT OF FERRITE CORE. A SUBSTITUTE. WORKS FINE.

IN A NUTSHELL: MAKE AIRCORE REVERSE TESLA COIL. MAKE IT RESONATE WITH UR NST. THEN USE DIODE BRIDGE AND VOLTAGE DIVIDER AND USE PI FILTER GET 12 OR 24 VOLTS DC. then invertor OR use RESISTOR ACROSS INPUT SIDE OF IRON CORE TRANSFORMER MEASURE L WITH LCR METER AND USE REACTANCE CHART PAGE 23 OF BOOK ELECTRONIC TABLES AND FORMULAS UPLOADED BY ME IN ONE OF MY POST.TO FIND VALUE OF RESISTOR IN ACCORDANCE WITH 100 OR 120 HZ FOR GETTING FREQUENCY 50 OR 60 HZ BUT U MUST KNOW WATTAGE OF RESISTOR FOR THAT U MUST KNOW VOLTAGE AND AMPS USE FORMULA P=VI WHERE P= WATTS V= VOLTS AND I= AMPS AND ALSO V=IR AND R=V/I

IMPORTANT: USE PT= POTENTIAL TRANSFORMER TO MEASURE HIGH VOLTAGE AC AND CT=CURRENT TRANSFORMER TO MEASURE AMPERES

MYTH: PEOPLE TEND TO THINK LOAD ALTERS RESONANCE BUT ITS JUST FALLACY TO THINK THAT. U HAVE CLEAR EXAMPLE OF CRYSTAL RADIO SET. THE TUNED FREQUENCY REMAINS SAME AND U HEAR MUSIK STILL. SO LOAD DONT CHANGE RESONANCE AND DERATES IT. IT JUST A SWITCH of TAP AND WATER KEEPS COMING! wash or bathe ur decision.
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its a misconception that don smith circuits draw power from ground which is not actually true. the energy is drawn from the resonance where minimal input needed for maximum output. earth grounding is necessary to maintain proper voltage for the circuit to operate.since here we r dealing with high voltages and high voltages often associated with streamers they are small arc voltages jumping like small tesla arcs which are irritating. they r produced by high voltage leakage causing imbalance to resonance.

we often come across having one phase with low voltage and if one need to increase voltage one can use this phase and an earth ground as neutral wire and light a bulb better than using one phase and a neutral wire.

earth just sucks in power not give out power. earth is just a great good conductor. so fellows shun ur misconception that dons power or kapanadze power coming from ground. its not its coming from resonance. and resonance is often reffered to as ambient environment. it just multiplies input to give multiplied output. we have two inputs frequency and voltage and resonance gives squared product of the two. if ur input is twice u get (2x2)x(2x2)= 4x4 = 16 times more with twice times input. that is voltage squared X frequency squared. thats the little secret!

tesla found it used it and all others followed tesla including me.
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please keep in mind never use 555. use LC CIRCUIT FOR OSCILLATOR. so u have a pure sine wave. as input. i saw ur setup the waveform is not balanced. since waveform is not balanced as input resonance waveform also deteriorates. first check the waveform of input it shud be perfect sine wave. then apply it. so u get perfect resonance. ur resonant waveform is not perfect. so it will causes problems in output usage unless u rectify it to dc. try reading my post and u will get to the solution. low voltage high amps. and a sine waveform as output.
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try doing what kapanadze did. get an empty ferrite core. and wind primary 8 turns and 4 turns independent coils of same gauge. and wind secondary about 4000 turns. measure L(8turns) of primary and use an online calculator to calculate capacitor to make it resonate at 30 khz.
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use L(4 turns as feedback coil) and use any high hfe transistor as switch to make oscillator resonating at 30khz all sine wave circuit. so it will induce 4 kv 30 khz .THIS IS UR CUSTOM MADE NST. IT WILL WORK FOR 9-12 VOLTS DC. PRODUCING AC 4kv 30 khz. use diode to make dc. just half wave. since ur custom made nst oscillating at 30 khz u dont need to use resonating length of Lpt=length of primary tesla coil just use 80 turns of thin wire 4000/80=50 volt per turn as primary it will oscillate at 30 khz then wind secondary thick wire 5 turns giving u 5x50=250 volts output as primary induces 50 volt per turn into thick secondary. try resonating. if it fails hopefully not. even if it does fail. measure with lcr meter the primary(80 turns) and use Resonant Frequency Calculator
to calculate caps for 30 khz. use it.do same for secondary that is 5 turns tesla coil. match right cap for it. now it will work. so ur output is 250 volts and ampere depend upon the wire u used i mean at which amps rating thats rated. suppose its rated 10 amps so u r having power ouput from this output coil=250x10=2500va=2.5kw. now voltage is in control. now to control frequency either convert it to dc using high amps low voltage diodes. and use class c amplifier with power transistors and produce ac of 50 hz or 60 hz. use 1:1 isolation transformer. use varistor at the output rated for 250 volts.
another method is to use 1:1 isolation transformer and measure the inductance L of the input side of transformer that is input side of ur setup to the input leads of the transformer put R across two input points R can be calculated from american radio relay league graph that is reactance chart. now u know the amperes so u can calculate the wattage of resistor. the sixth edition of howard and samson book " handbook of electronic tables n formulas" also contains the reactance charts. for 50 hz look for 100 hz entry in chart and for 60 hz look for 120 hz entry in chart with ur inductance value of the transformer primary input. plot the line and where it cuts the resistance line use that value. Now u have everything decently calculated and managed setup. use varistor at the output of isolation transformer. its better u make isolation transformer using an old empty bobbin iron cored unused transformer or use any robust ferrite core to keep it cool. thats it
just make sure the wires u use for transformer are rated 20% higher ampearage rating of the ampeares u r gonna use. here u have 10 amps so calculate 20% plus of 10 amps-A SAFETY FEATURE. ISOLATION IS MUST. COZ WE DONT WANT ACCIDENTS AND WE WANT SAFE FREE POWER. when power is more in output looping back and closing the loop is as easy as a wink. feedback 12v 5 amps(mysetup) in ur case may be different. use AMERICAN -AWC RATINGS OR CANADIAN RATINGS FOR WIRE GAUGES WITH AMPS N FREQUECIES TABLES. SELECT RIGHT ONES FOR UR SETUP
step down R
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T=L/R
WHERE T= FREQUENCY
L=INDUCTANCE
R=RESISTANCE

DOES THE TRICK

THE COIL IMPEDANCE CHANGES SO DOES THE T
hI GREETINGS!

google is the best place to search all ya need. i used google and found out everything. keep digging and keep watching my posts. there is always fire where there is smoke. people dont try things and say things dont work. and feel that they r super intelligent and say the devices r not good enuff to be true. to succeed in anything go to the root. keep thinking and keep searching and u get it all. just keep asking questions and get answers. i was a novice and still i am but i dug it deep and found the right things to make the device running and in control.

well the basic part is nst neon sign transformer.since old nst uses iron core they cannot be resonated at high frequencies as core will saturate and transformer will burn up in flames. todays nst's use ferrite cores so high frequency is not a problem but they have gfi=ground fault interruptor built in thats trips the nst when grounded in dons circuits. so its better to make ur nst customised by winding primary and feedback coil and secondary using any ferrite core from old tv eht=extra high tension= flyback transformer. tv flybacks can be used but they have 45kv rated or more so dangerous voltages. we just need 3kv to 4 kv to get spark going so why we use 45 kv flyaback? nst is nothing but a high voltage step up transformer where u feed oscillatory power in khz in primary to get high voltage and high frequency in the secondary output winding of nst. tv flyback cores can also be used to make customised nst. with controlled voltage that is 4kv. tv flybacks have one good thing they have high voltage diode built in. but they have 45kv to 50 kv outputs very hard to handle unless u keep voltages in control.

the input voltage is the primary factor that controls how many turns u wanna have in ur primary. to make a step down tesla transformer. higher the input voltage makes primary to have more turns. as compared to secondary
secondary where u wanna have 110 to 250 volts output. the voltage applied to primary divided by turns gives u volage per turn in primary and since each turn induces voltage to secondary turns. so if u have higher voltage per turn in primary ur gonna get higher voltage per turn in secondary. its better to think tesla like a normal transformer and create primary n secondary according to ur needs. in this case frequencies dont match. to match frequencies we have to use caps in parallel to get resonance. so number of turns and thickness of coil dont matter if we get them resonating. its always better to reverse the tesla coil. make primary more turns and secondary less turns and thicker to get amperage.

can any one help me how to post schematics i will give u more links and more juicy things to get u going from scratch to free power. am new to this forum and i dont know how to upload schematics.

dons circuit operate like a radio set. resonance happening at the transmitting station to listen to radio we need a coil and tune it with tha variable capacitor to get in resonance with the transmitting station. when our reciever coil is in resonance with transmitting station we get musik. so dons primary is transmitting station and our coil is just secondary and its not far from transmitting station its so close. so we have less losses as distance is negligible and we can get musik just by tunning our secondary coil which is our recieving primary.thats the basis of dons power.
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the basis of don smith power is on two factors voltage and frequency. the minimum voltage to make a spark gap work is 4kv ie 4000 volts and use the optimum frequency for the rest. if we r to make a device for home use we must fix one of two things its better we fix voltage and vary frequency. if we use both high voltage and high frequency it will make us produce power not controllable and with more hazardous voltages. so keep voltage just enuf to spark get going and use frequency by formula of resonant circuit. assume c=1 and calculate power in joules of resonant circuit. so keeping voltage 4k fixed n changing frequency and capacitance to minimum(capacitance associated with inductance only) power is

P=0.5 x C x (V squared)*(HZ squared)

P=POWER IN JOULES or watt sec (1 joule = 1 watt sec)
V=VOLTAGE
HZ=CYCLES PER SECOND
x= multiply sign

when we are using caps C as storing power of tesla coil or inductance L

the formulas for output power are
caps formula-putput power
Pc=0.5 x C x (V SQUARED) x HZ

Pc= power in joules= watt sec
HZ= CYCLE PER SECOND

Pl=0.5 x L x (A SQUARED) x HZ

Pl=power in joules= watt sec
HZ= CYCLE PER SECOND
A=current in ampeares

if we r taking output from L ie inductance only use pl formula
and if we r taking output from capacitor then use pc formula

its always better to use reverse tesla coils
that is thin primary and many turns
and thick secondary few turns many amps

resonance is a just a frequency and its a match if matched then number of turns and thickness dont matter.

all that matters is resonating circuit producing power at low voltage and high amps.

the secret of don smith revealed.

JUST REVERSE TESLA COIL

AND U GET THE GOLD
AND THATS WOT THE STORY NEVER TOLD
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well the basis of don globe is based on matching frequency of the globe with ur coil. the coil must be in resonance with the globe frequency. so tune that with caps caps added. this can also be done by using the length of the coil without caps. also u have to use 4L LENGTH OF THE COIL THAT IS THE CROWN.or if u have smaller coil then use caps to match it. then do the step down with a single diode and caps for storing power just half wave will do. people think just putting up a coil crown make it resonate its not that case we have to match resonance frequency first then tap the juice. view my posts i have simple solution without a globe thats will get u juice faster n smarter way. with experience and expertise that u get while performing experiments will lead u to learn how to self start generator with just 9 volt dc battery. all it takes to learn from mistakes. i learned a lot so will u.

well formulas are universal i just elaborated on them.am not an inventor just a discover agent.
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to measure high voltages and high currents(high amps) we need PT= potential transformers and for amps CT= currents transformers. am attaching a pic see the configuration how to use PT AND CT. a flyback driver circuit(use 4700uf 20 volt across the 12v input for better performance of fly back to reduce load on battery and saving circuit from hv kickbacks. Also u can use a capacitor across the primary matching with L of primary to make it oscillate for 30khz. measure L with LCR METER and use online resonance calculator for caps specifications here is a link LC Resonance Frequency Calculator at WhatCircuits.com) reactance charts. and a 12 volt to 220 volt simple invertor circuit. use a 110 volt transformer rated 15 amps for 110 volt invertor circuit
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the energy produced by both spark gap and resonance combination. spark gap is just a trigger to tune up resonance its like tapping resonance frequency of the secondary coil. its like drums beating when u stop beating drum sound stops. if u keep beating drum with drum stick the sound continues and if u get the the timming correct drum continues to emit sound when beaten at its resonance frequency then u have lesser hits to make drum emit continuous sound and u can rest ur hand till its time again to hit it b4 the drum sound is on the verge of dying out. you hit again and cycle continues.

we can use resistor across the input side of the transformer but we must know the wattage. in dons circuit people dont know how much voltage is at output but they do know amps. since V=IXR. AND P=VXI ,P IS WATTS .We must know V and I both to decide wot wattage to use. the reactance chart also shows C values also
we can use C also across input side of transformer then u can see the LC combination and LC we get it that LC have frequency. since don said caps r costly and resistances are cheap its better to use R to save cost. moroever kapanadze converting ac high frequency low voltage using voltage divider circuit and then using class c amplifier using two transistors u must have seen fan cooling two transistor on top of green box. view my pdf and u see kapanadze circuit based on dons circuit. read pdf uploaded by me dsmith-refernce... scroll to bottom see the circuit of don the 6A COIL is the same coil u see on kapanadze greenbox larger thicker 6 turns. hope u get my point.
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STEPDOWN CAN BE AIRCORED OR FERRITE CORE UNLESS U HAVE FREQUENCY 50 HZ. OR 60 HZ

FERRITE CORE CAN BE USED FOR 50 HZ OR 60 HZ THEY RUN COOL. THEY DONT HEAT UP.

WARNING: NEVER FEED HIGH FREQUENCY ABOVE 50 HZ OR 60 HZ TO IRON CORED TRANSFORMER IT WILL BURN TO FLAMES. USE FERRITE OR AIRCORE FOR HIGH FREQUENCIES.

READ TRANSFORMER BASICS LINK IN ONE OF MY POSTS AND MAKE STEP DOWN TRANSFORMER ACCORDINGLY. BUT U MUST KNOW OUTPUT VOLTAGE AND MAKE COILS ACCORDINGLY OF THE TRANSFORMER WITH AMPS IN CONSIDERATION IN OUTPUT AS WELL AS AMPS IN THE INPUT SIDE OF TRANSFORMER.

AN AIRCORE TESLA COIL CAN BE USED AS STEP DOWN IN REVERSE TESLA COIL FASHION. MEANS THIN PRIMARY AND THICK SECONDARY AS (OUTPUT) INSIDE THE THIN PRIMARY. AT THE CENTRE.

IMPORTANT: A STEP DOWN MUST RESONATE!

TIP: COPPER COATED WELDING RODS CAN BE USED IN A BUNDLE AS A REPLACEMENT OF FERRITE CORE. A SUBSTITUTE. WORKS FINE.

IN A NUTSHELL: MAKE AIRCORE REVERSE TESLA COIL. MAKE IT RESONATE WITH UR NST. THEN USE DIODE BRIDGE AND VOLTAGE DIVIDER AND USE PI FILTER GET 12 OR 24 VOLTS DC. then invertor OR use RESISTOR ACROSS INPUT SIDE OF IRON CORE TRANSFORMER MEASURE L WITH LCR METER AND USE REACTANCE CHART PAGE 23 OF BOOK ELECTRONIC TABLES AND FORMULAS UPLOADED BY ME IN ONE OF MY POST.TO FIND VALUE OF RESISTOR IN ACCORDANCE WITH 100 OR 120 HZ FOR GETTING FREQUENCY 50 OR 60 HZ BUT U MUST KNOW WATTAGE OF RESISTOR FOR THAT U MUST KNOW VOLTAGE AND AMPS USE FORMULA P=VI WHERE P= WATTS V= VOLTS AND I= AMPS AND ALSO V=IR AND R=V/I

IMPORTANT: USE PT= POTENTIAL TRANSFORMER TO MEASURE HIGH VOLTAGE AC AND CT=CURRENT TRANSFORMER TO MEASURE AMPERES

MYTH: PEOPLE TEND TO THINK LOAD ALTERS RESONANCE BUT ITS JUST FALLACY TO THINK THAT. U HAVE CLEAR EXAMPLE OF CRYSTAL RADIO SET. THE TUNED FREQUENCY REMAINS SAME AND U HEAR MUSIK STILL. SO LOAD DONT CHANGE RESONANCE AND DERATES IT. IT JUST A SWITCH of TAP AND WATER KEEPS COMING! wash or bathe ur decision.
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Hi the the basic key is resonance and the spark. until u have both working u will have xcess energy always. and when u step down it doesnt mean u r reducing power as its known, at resonance resistance of circuit is zero so u have power available whether u step up or step down.
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THERE HAS TO BE A COMBO FOR OVER UNITY DEVICES.

A SPARK GAP + RESONANCE.

THEN U GET OU(OVERUNITY)

MR. CLEAN ALSO HAVE.

KAPAGEN HAD SPARK GAP BUT NOT RESONANCE SO ITS NOT OU(OVERUNITY)

SR193 HAD SPARK GAP BUT NOT RESONANCE HE USED INDUCTION SO OUTPUT IS JUST 150 WATTS JUST A RESULT OF SPARK GAP AND NOT RESONANCE. IF SR USED RESONANCE THEN HE WUD BE IN THE CATEGORY OF KAPANADZE LONG B4.

I HAVE BOTH IN MY SETUP AND AM FINE WITH OUTPUT. AM USING IT FOR MY HOME A 10 KW UNIT. 220-250 VOLT 50 HZ SINE WAVE. AM HAPPY WITH IT!

REGARDS

ZILANO ZEIS ZANE!

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IN DONS CIRCUITS SPARK GAP IS TIMMING DEVICE AND RESONATES ACCORDING TO THE FLUX CHANGES IN SECONDARY.

A SYSTEM WITH SPARK GAP+BUFFER+RESONANCE BECOMES SELF RUNNING AND SELF FEEDING DEVICE.
Hi there!
u said dc pulsed. its true every dc half wave or full wave rectified ac is always pulsating called ripple. here we have rf ripple but it can be smoothed by using pi filter and an extra rf coil so we get smooth dc. most adaptors we use in daily life converts 110 v ac to 12 v or 5 v dc. they overcome the ripple effect by making dc and generating ac square wave and then again rectified to get pure dc. square waves dont have much ripple and its straight line dc. we can use that here also. and measurements can be done easily using shunts for DC amps.AND VOLTAGE too. measurement is not a problem with filtered dc how high voltage it can be.

please go thru web and read measuring HVDC AND HVAC and u will know how its done.

we are just interested in ac sinewave output. but we can measure dc amps and volts and add rms factor and we get ac measurements. its simple.

all ya need is calculation. kapanadze did not have shielded 20k \$ + equipment but he still did it.

when funds r low and u have a drive to go! innovations happen. necessity is the mother of invention u see!

bypass solutions are always there. just we have to think harder to get wot we want.

am not saying i have all knowledge of everything. i did and learned. so will all the people.

regards

zilano zeis zane!

(14 yrs old !
with spell mistakes
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a bot
etc etc)

i dont care wot people say bout me.
i have it and i dont need any help
i came here to make others learn who are as novice as i had been
will keep posting!
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hI MR.CLEAN!

Thankx for reading my posts. i have it working in my home a 10 kw device.
230-250v sinewave. i did not use 555 timer based nst. i made it on my own. made to oscillate at 30 khz. a 4kv power pack and then just did step down. am using it.

you are on the virge of a one step away. and u will get it. any more queries welcome!

i posted ur progress without ur knowledge sorry abt that. i tried to contact ya but failed coz google didnt let me. here i never saw u online. am glad u are here ! congrats on ur progress!

may God bless u always!

good wishes from my side!

u r using reverse tesla concept-thin primary more turns and thick sec less turns. don never mentioned it. but its the only way to free power.

regards
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To get overunity the input must be low(thin primary-high impedance) and secondary output(low impedance) high amps. this is the magic behind dons circuits. but don never disclosed this magic trick. people who saw dons designs made primary thick and secondary thin they had failures in output power. underunity. or unity. i call this REVERSE TESLA COIL. MAKE primary as secondary and secondary as primary. kapanadse got this idea and u can see his green box coil is based on don circuit. see my attachment in one of my posts dons smith pdf dated 1994 bottom circuit. the 6A coil 6 turns is same as dons circuit.

regards
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well top of tesla single coil when base earthed has (voltage peak+current node) and base has (current peak+ voltage node)
when 2 tesla used back 2 back same direction voltage is at each end a a current is at base

but in case of bifilar where one is cw and other is ccw whole thing changes the ccw coil has voltage peak and current node at base and end has voltage node and current peak at end of ccw

when we join the two bases adn join the two ends of cw+ccw coils we have almost same voltage and same current at base (joined) and ends(joined)

resonance is like sleep it has no effect on cw or ccw. either u lie on bed to sleep or sleepwhile sitting. sleep is sleep!
CW CCW
use same position of spark gap in don setup. it works for any frequency. it just triggers hv hf to trigger primary coil. frequency of nst has nothing to do with Lc primary frequency. frequency of primary will depend on its inductance and cap attached to it.
so dont confuse with nst frequency. its just hv hf power supply. use diode(must)
Don Zilano

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AM USING IT FOR MY HOME A 10 KW UNIT
i have it working in my home a 10 kw device
Resonance is coil and cap or .. right length coil
resonance is just a frequency does not depend on length ONLY IF u attach caps across it and make it Lc circuit.even a single loop can be resonated at 30 khz just use right cap.
Grounding is necessary. two grounds are needed one at spark gap and other in the output side. spark plays a vital role as all frequencies exist at spark gap and it has to be tuned also by varying the gap so it matches the frequency of ur nst(if solid state or tesla transfomer) view my crude drawing circuit in one of my posts.it has 2 earths.

keep hv low in range of 2kv or 1.5 kv. suppose u have 2kv=2000 volts and u need 120 volt out then 2000/50=40 volts per turn in primary and make secondary 3 turns. means 40v x 3=120 volts. its better u decide ur transformer input n output and work accordingly.

make primary thin(high impedance) and secondary thick for more amps.(low impedance) so u can test amps using a load in raw ac hf power. u can also use same coils but power will be less.
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Thanks for your info. In your "reverse Tesla coil" used as stepdown transformer are you doing bifiliar winding on primary(80 turns) or secondary(5 turns) or simple winding?
Antoher question: Is it your custom nst driver generating sine waves or pulses?

Hi Escalator!
yes am using bifilar 5 turns(10 turns total) in secondary. primary 80 turns simple coiling.

yes i just used ferrite from tv and wounded turns myself. i used lc oscillator and fed back to base of transistor. see my crude circuit lol am not artist and i hate to draw. see in one of my posts. the uploaded circuit.
i made (nst as tesla coil resonating) so i just needed stepdown. in this case step down must also resonate. yes all pure sine wave circuit. so i had no difficulty with wave output as square wave produce hum in fan motors or ac motors. and not sabotage my ac equipment in my home.
A lonely parallel resistor is not changing the frequency.
It is DRIVEN by the coil
Test it yourself, run a motor and use different parallel resistor values to one generator coil. Will that change the frequency you measure in the generator circuit across the resistor or the load?
Complete BS.

Hi there!

RESISTOR IS NOT LONELY. ITS IN RESONANCE TOO.( and inductors
have capacitance too)

the graph u plotted by u is not a resonating circuit. nomograph is based on resonance circuits. where xc=xL.

Since (

XC=XL) at resonance, by drawing the straighline across the inductance value and the frequency we can find the required resistor which will have the desired frequency. nomograph attached.

regards
WELL turns thickness and gauge and length dont matter all matters is rightt caps
u can oscillate 1 inch of wire at 30 khz( not natural frequency of coil) but LC combination. frequency changes when c attached to coil. so here we oscillating combination not just a coil.
moreover LCR meter tells c also of coil. add it to the oecillating parameter so total c is value is suitable for the applied frequency. frequency will remain same and not shoot to mhz !

i have not used natural resonant frequency of coils. we r feeding oscillating power so we force resonate coils. when caps added resonant frequency of coil changes.

we make L slave with capacitor and make it oscillate and dance on 30 khz in my case.and whole circuit dances at 30 khz.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenomorph
In #145 you stated:

And in your following post, you also referred to a resistor without an additional cap.

Of course you can change the resonance frequency of the secondary circuit with additional caps. My point is a single resistor will not do it alone.

Hi there!

those who dont agree with the R. CAN bridge and use push-pull transformer with 12/24v dc and chime the output and brighten their lamps with no hassles of learning reactance charts and understanding !
although i use resistor and it saved me from a bunch of circuit.
the R takes the toll when frequency is low and L takes the toll when frequency is high! thats all i know and maybe the difference works for me so
And in your following post, you also referred to a resistor without an additional cap.

Of course you can change the resonance frequency of the secondary circuit with additional caps. My point is a single resistor will not do it alone.

Hi there!

Don Smith was never wrong! read his pdf again there still lies a hidden secret but u have to guess! its there but its hard for everyone to find. go thru it and u will get it. Don Smith wanted us to learn deeper and then apply. Smith wanted us to use our minds. not just make us dumb followers. I found it and used it and so will each one at this Forum. and the power s all urz for free. Kapanadze is one Guy who found it and used it. Sr193 followed suite of kapanadze. but his output i dont think is 50 hz.
and same applies to kapagen.
Originally Posted by Xenomorph
Again, you are driving the secondary of a transformer with a 30 kHz frequency.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenomorph
The self resonance frequency of the secondary coil is in the Mega-Hertz range due to the very small inter-winding capacitance in the piko- to nanofarad range.
So first you will never hit resonance at all like this and second
even if you did, a parallel resistor does not magically change the driven and dominant frequency in the secondary circuit to 50/60 Hertz.
You simply don't know what you are talking about.
This is driven oscillator 101. The driving voltage will be across that resistor.

I did even try this experimentally with a resonant circuit back in the Don Smith hype days, because he came up with that frequency-correction resistor disinfo, and it does not work. Do the experiment, see for yourself. Don't just quote Smith.

Hi XENO!

I am running the thing flawlessly and my laptop and my home is being powered with it as i write this am using Dons power i got my grid power disconnected. so am not talking castles in the air. i persued dons circuit 6 months back it took me six months to reach this on my own.

my home load is 4.25 kw and its providing me all power.

am happy with my find and i want to help u all.

regards

zilano zeis zane!

not a booster or boaster
just here to help forum coz
i learned a lot from forum
i wanna give back!
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Originally Posted by drak
Xenomorph,

I don't understand reactance that well myself, but accordingly somehow you can lower the frequency with resistors using the reactance chart. I won't be doing it this way though, but would love to have a basic course on exactly how reactance works.

in the smith pdf it says
Suppose that your neon-tube driver is running at 30 kHz and you are using a capacitor of 100 nF (which is the
same as 0.1 microfarad) and you want to know what is the AC resistance of your capacitor is at that frequency.
Also, what coil inductance would have that same AC resistance.

I don't understand that at all, i was just going to work around it by charging a cap bank then pulsing it at 60 hz into a basic transformer. Unless someone can recoomend a reactance for dummies book that i can read.

Hi Drak,

Perhaps you are confused by the incorrect usage of the word resistance by Don Smith in the above quote? Because he should have used the word reactance instead of resistance, ok?
We normally talk about AC reactance in case of capacitors or coils, saying a capacitor has a capacitive reactance or a coil has an inductive reactance, and reactance also has a dimension of OHM like a normal resistance.
The nomograms also show these in Ohms, for capacitors the reactance formula Xc=1/(2*Pi*f*C) or for coils XL=2*Pi*f*L where f is the AC frequency in Hertz, C is the value of the cap in Farad and L is the coil inductance in Henry. Using these you get the reactance in Ohm, and the nomograms used these formulas.
(You can see from the formulas that a given value capacitor has an decreasing reactance value when you increase frequency and coils behave just on the contrary: they have an increasing reactance when you increase frequency.

Perhaps a subtle adjustment of the center tap ground point creates a slight imbalance in the two halves of the bifilar that mixes to produce a low frequency envelope riding on the high frequency resonating in the coil halves. Feed that through a diode with an RC and you can have your 60Hz.

Just a guess, though...

Hi there!

see beyond and behind the coil. forget primary.
use copper coated welding rods inside the primary. use a pvc tube and insert the rods in pvc tube slide the made core of pvc tube inside the primary coil. the diameter of the tube is one cm less than ur primary diameter.try this first.

u can use sine wave. according to the circuit(crude circuit i have posted) or u can use nst (not solid state) also. u r right. the lc combination oscillates according to c and L combination but the wavefeform is according to ur hv supply waveform. if u r using 555 timer based flyback then ur waveform is square. always use bifilar secondary coil.
I'm curious what diodes you are using in your output circuit that you have a pic of in post #78.
I'm assuming that there is a full wave bridge. It's kinda hard to tell from the pic. Are they high frequency - fast recovery or anything special?

Thanks!
Duane

Hi Duane!

its a bridge rectifier high amps high frequency low voltage 250 v.
u judged right.
http://www.powerlabs.org/flybackdriver.htm
http://www.amazing1.com/profneon.htm
http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/labhvps/tht.htm
Flyback Connector finding
well secondary is 4 times primary. but we use turn ratio to our advantage. suppose he has 2000 volt fed to primary so he has to have 100 turns so he gets 20 volt per turn in primary. and in secondary he desire 120 volts so 20*6=120 so he will be having 6 turns in secondary in total but as this secondary coil is magnet he will have to wound 3 turns and 3 turns at the ends of primary so the primary is in centre of blotch wall of the secondary coil treated as magnet. same direction of 3 turns not bifilar. later he can use bifilar to see wot it brings better for him. the remaining lenghth of extra wire of secondary must be there left free so he gets resonance and if he cuts that short he will have to use caps of larger mkfd. to make up the length he cut off. so length must be same its for us to decide how many turns we want.

basically wot don did he had 2000 volt and 5 turns primary that means he had 400 volt per turn in primary and he had 34 turns in secondary (centre tapped) so he had 400*17=6,800 volt in each secondary winding and when joined togather he has 6,800 volt fed to caps 2mkfd@8000 volt so he stepped up actually. here we r doing step down from 2000 to 120 volt. here ususal caps of low voltage and higher capacity can be used and a diode and 1:1 ratio isolation transformer( can be made with thick wire iron cored) with suitable cap is used to pulse the transformer thru a spark gap so we get 120 volt ac pure sine wave. either we can step up and then do step down or we can use stepdown at the first step. the thing is to have resonance working here we r saving an intermediate step of big isolation transformer. we r using 1:1 ratio for transformer. also we r saving high cost high voltage capacitors that r beyond affordability and budget constraints and availability.
here trafo is pulsed with dc timed by spark gap creating 50/60 hz resonance in trafo primary. match primary Inductance of trafo in nomograph with 50 or 60 hz matched with inductance draw line at two points and select the right cap where it crosses farad line.

the trafo can be 2000 volt to 110 or 120 volt ac or 480 to 120 or 110 v ac. depended on the output of L2 coil. can be managed by variac or a step down at L2 using right turns ratio.
here trafo is pulsed with dc timed by spark gap creating 50/60 hz resonance in trafo primary. match primary Inductance of trafo in nomograph with 50 or 60 hz matched with inductance draw line at two points and select the right cap where it crosses farad line.

the trafo can be 2000 volt to 110 or 120 volt ac or 480 to 120 or 110 v ac. depended on the output of L2 coil. can be managed by variac or a step down at L2 using right turns ratio.
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Originally Posted by drak
Won't that leave ALOT of extra wire from your secondary just laying there? To get 100 turns in primary thats alot of wire. Then to have your secondary 4 times that length with only 6 turns there will be alot of extra wire left over. I understand the turns ratio needed to drop the voltage down, but wow.

Let's say 100 turns primary with extra for connections comes to about 50 feet of wire. That means secondary must be 200 feet of wire and only maybe 25 to 50 feet is used in the 6 turns, thats 150 foot of extra wire outside of the secondary just laying there. Is that correct?

well step up and step down following don. or keep lengths according to ur desired turns and xtra for connexions and compensate lengths reduced with suitable caps in parallel.

so u have smaller lengths and well managed
this circuit will fry transformer. Don was quite clever. he wanted us to learn from mistakes. if u feed 35khz to iron core then core will saturate and heat up. coz iron core cant manage high frequencies thats why we use ferrite cores. moreover don wanted us to get to know wot is R. R is actually capacitor. and a diode is used in combination to pulse the trafo with spark gap in series. same thing done in primary. is done here also. but a pure pulsed dc is fed. means 2 diodes is used to generate 50/60 hz ac through spark gap. triggering the LC circuit to oscillate at 50/60 hz. sine wave.

here u can understand kapanadze also. where he says first filter means diode then 2nd filter means another diode to pulse trafo.read kapanadze patent. and u will understand better. kapanadze did one thing instead of battery as pure feed he added capacitor across the input as a buffer. he charged that cap with battery and that cap fed the circuit containing high frequency module which then filtered and fed to primary. then added cap to primary and said first frequency stabilizer.to make primary resonant with secondary he again used stabilizer cap across secondary then 2nd filter to pulse output trafo.
Originally Posted by Zlatko
Zilano,
i don't understand.
But resistor change frequence to 60 Hz, then transformer sees 60 Hz and will not fry.
Don explain how to find right frequence change resistor with radio league chart. That's his whole point.
If he means capacitor why doesn't he show it?

What surprise me most is that you said you use frequency change resistor in your home powering device yourself to get to 50/60 Hz and not capacitors and obviously your transformer does not fry and receives 60 Hz from the resistor ?! --> post #160

You explain the concept yourself here : #147

Can you explain that?

well i did not disclose it b4 as it was one of don secret. i used C not R.

well in patrick kelly book. he says don does not disclose everything fully. we have to use minds to grab the thing.

rgds

zzz
50 60 Hz
Originally Posted by Zlatko
Are you joking?
I folow thread from beginning. Why the long dispute about frequence change resistor with that guy where at som point you say you have working device based on it if in reality you used capacitor?

I mean i try to build device exactly like yours and i took ths informations for real and wanted to use resistor just to find out it was wrong info.

Can you at least verify that there is no more secrets before people build?

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well kapanadze used don technology. dons technology is a clean one and contains no hazards to health and time warp. where as for getting 9 volt input and getting kwatts output kapanadze used caduceus coil and thats a bad technology. moreover sr193 stopped further coz of dangers involved and even kapanadze is also not in the news why? they both realized the dangers involved. am not saying dons technology is hazard free there is a danger of electrocution with high voltage where as in scalar waves caduceus coils there r hidden dangers destroying ur body and mind.

kapanadze produced many devices his first one was rotor one. then he used don one u see green box magic and then the pink one with caduceus coil. and TMZ used caduceus but patents have not been given to any of kapanadze. there r hidden dangers. wud u like a technology with great output but at ur health costs? the anser is no.

many people who say that they get resonance are mistaken with the induction output. I point out that when u get resonance and when u attach load to secondary it has no effect on the primary input if it does show affect on primary input that means resonance condition is not met and the output is just based on transformer characteristics not a resonant transformer. either u step up or step down if resonance is reached output is always ample and more than input.

don is a clean one no after effects.
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Originally Posted by drak
I don't quite understand what you are saying here.

The other parts cleared things up some. I guess the confusing bit is you are describing many different ways of doing it. I have 4 different NST's on order and waiting for them to get here. I haven't tried the longer secondary yet. Is it ok to have all the extra wire from the secondary not used in the turns, can I coil it up or does it have to be straight? I'd rather not cut it off so I can still have the quarter wave / full wave.

well just get nst solid state 30-40 khz. 3 kv or 4 kv

we use lengths to vibrate em without needing caps. we r just inducing half wave just to make em vibrate at their natural frequency and since natural frequency of vibration depends upon the length of coil thats why lengths r important. we use mhz range coz if we use khz range lengths will be veryyyyy long.

suppose u have 2 inch radius primary

so length one turn required =2*3.14*2=12.56 inches/12=1.046 feet approx

if u need 5 turns then length required=5*1.046=5.23 feet

and ur secondary length will be= 4*5.23=20.92 feet

now u can calculate ur frequency at which its gonna work

length(1/4 wave)= 246/frequency in mhz

5.23=246/f in Mhz
f in mhz for quarter wave= 246/5.23=47.03 Mhz

now if u have 3 inch radius for secondary

length required for 1 turn=2*3.14*3=18.84 inch/12=1.57 feet

so no of turns in sec wil be =20.92 feet/1.57 feet=13.32 turns

so u will have 5 turns primary with 2 inch radius and 13.32 turns in secondary with 3 inch radius pvc tube.

thats how its calculated.

we r not using full lengths for turns we need extra for connexion also so we adjust turns accordingly say 3 turns in primary and 10 turns in secondary. keeping lengths same for primary=5.23 feet and secondary=20.92 feet

if u feed 2000 volt in primary 3 turns then voltage per turn=2000/3=666.66 volts

and since we have secondary 10 turns then voltage per turn across secondary is 666.66 volts

so full voltage across secondary is 10*666.66=6666.6 volts = 6.6 kv approx

since we treat secondary coil as magnet we have to make space for blotch wall(the middle neutral space of N____S middle join. so we make 5 turn_____5turn

____ is sec coil middle in straight line its length=primary coils total turn width. so primary sits between this straight wire joining 5 turns and 5 turns of secondary.

0000000000000

0=secondary coil turns
0=primary turns

hope u understand now

regards
zzzz
Hi folks!

well nst solid state 30-40 khz. 3 kv or 4 kv is required

we use lengths to vibrate em without needing caps. we r just inducing half wave just to make em vibrate at their natural frequency and since natural frequency of vibration depends upon the length of coil thats why lengths r important. we use mhz range coz if we use khz range lengths will be veryyyyy long.

suppose u have 2 inch radius pvc for primary

so length one turn required =2*3.14*2=12.56 inches/12=1.046 feet approx

if u need 5 turns then length required=5*1.046=5.23 feet

and ur secondary length will be= 4*5.23=20.92 feet

now u can calculate ur frequency at which its gonna work

length(1/4 wave)= 246/frequency in mhz

5.23=246/f in Mhz
f in mhz for quarter wave= 246/5.23=47.03 Mhz

now if u have 3 inch radius for secondary

length required for 1 turn=2*3.14*3=18.84 inch/12=1.57 feet

so no of turns in sec wil be =20.92 feet/1.57 feet=13.32 turns

so u will have 5 turns primary with 2 inch radius and 13.32 turns in secondary with 3 inch radius pvc tube.

thats how its calculated.

we r not using full lengths for turns we need extra for connexion and middle join so we take it from lengths calculated so we adjust turns accordingly say 3 turns in primary and 10 turns in secondary. keeping lengths same for primary=5.23 feet and secondary=20.92 feet

if u feed 2000 volt in primary 3 turns then voltage per turn=2000/3=666.66 volts

and since we have secondary 10 turns then voltage per turn across secondary is 666.66 volts

so full voltage across secondary is 10*666.66=6666.6 volts = 6.6 kv approx

since we treat secondary coil as magnet we have to make space for blotch wall(the middle neutral space of N____S middle join. so we make 5 turn_____5turn

____ is sec coil middle in straight line its length=primary coils total turn width. so primary sits between this straight wire joining 5 turns and 5 turns of secondary.

0000000000000

___ is joining secondary turns below red 000 not shown

0=secondary coil turns
0=primary turns(slidable)

hope u understand now.

hope my work is over now

i take ur leave now!

alien atlantis and the flight crew

wish u best of learning and good luck!

only aliens can help u out and am one!
see don setup pic and follow accordingly. xtra wires must not be coiled. use required length so u wont have extra wire except for connexions. u need xtra for sliding in and out of coil. use a string first on pvc and when u find right suitable length of string measure it and make coils accordingly. this is the trickiest part but u can do it.
remember rule of thumb primary=1/4 of secondary
and secondary is 4 times primary

dont deviate from this

split secondary in a magnet with blotch wall all same direction. later u can use bifilar.

first same direction secondary coil splitted at blotch wall and join the two coils with and earth it. when u join both ends of secondary with diodes u get voltage that is half of the full voltage secondary eg if u have 6.6 kv then u will have finally 3.3 kv(centre tapped and earthed)and two ends joined of secondary. the output will be from centre and two joins of secondary.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zlatko
That doesn't really answer the question.

In the post Donald Smith Devices too good to be true you dirctly compare Smitha's and Kapanadze's coils
assuming the same operation.

or in post 805 you say

You know so much about Don, i want to understand how is similar to Kapanadze like you say.

well kapanadze used don technology. dons technology is a clean one and contains no hazards to health and time warp. where as for getting 9 volt input and getting kwatts output kapanadze used caduceus coil and thats a bad technology. moreover sr193 stopped further coz of dangers involved and even kapanadze is also not in the news why? they both realized the dangers involved. am not saying dons technology is hazard free there is a danger of electrocution with high voltage where as in scalar waves caduceus coils there r hidden dangers destroying ur body and mind.

kapanadze produced many devices his first one was rotor one. then he used don one u see green box magic and then the pink one with caduceus coil. and TMZ used caduceus but patents have not been given to any of kapanadze. there r hidden dangers. wud u like a technology with great output but at ur health costs? the anser is no.

many people who say that they get resonance are mistaken with the induction output. I point out that when u get resonance and when u attach load to secondary it has no effect on the primary input if it does show affect on primary input that means resonance condition is not met and the output is just based on transformer characteristics not a resonant transformer. either u step up or step down if resonance is reached output is always ample and more than input.

This excellent file is courtesy of David Brenneman.

Certain experiments ... were carried out by independent researchers with caduceus-wound coils. This was also called a "Tensor" coil by its main proponent, Wilbert Smith.
The caduceus coil illustrated in Fig.1, basically consists of ordinary insulated copper wire wound in a double-helix around a ferrite core. THIS COIL HAS REPEATEDLY BEEN FOUND TO VIOLATE ESTABLISHED LAWS OF ELECTROMAGNETICS AND HERTZIAN WAVE THEORY WHEN A HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT IS INJECTED INTO IT.

First. This apparatus has zero impedance - unlike an ordinary coil. when fed electrical energy the wire in the Tensor coil does not get hot.
Secondly. It has infinite resonance - unlike an ordinary coil which will resonate chiefly at its natural fundamental frequency and weakly on the second or third harmonic, the Tensor coil is capable of resonating strongly on any number of frequencies randomly spaced in the spectrum. The signal pumped into such a coil strangely enough cannot be quantified (detected) by standard RF (radio frequency) detection apparatus. Many "Ham" radio operators and electronic technicians who have used these coils, are completely baffled by them. One radio amateur found that with two such coils, one used as a transmitter and the other as a receiver, the second would not pick up the signal from the first unless they were precisely aligned.
For the signal to be transmitted the alignment had to be as critical as that of a laser beam.

A few investigators have also reported unexpected bizarre inertial effects in conjunction with these coils. One researcher activated his caduceus coil with pulsed bursts of microwave frequency whereupon it appeared to lift itself up by its own bootstraps executing a periodic series of little hops off the ground. Why the coil would jump like this or exhibit the other weird effects noted above, has no explanation under standard electromagnetic theory, and must be attributed to the field effect produced by the unique coil winding.

Looking at this coil configuration carefully we see that the oppositely wound wires of the double helix will cross each other on the opposite sides of the core's diameter with each complete turn. Hence, the coil will have two rows of bumps formed where the two wires cross, the rows placed diametrically opposite one another on the core.
Researchers claim that it is important for these crossover bumps to lie in a straight line. Now, when the high frequency current flows in opposite directions through the two wires, the magnetic fields essentially cancel on the sides of the coil but on the top and bottom where the crossovers are, the fields overlap forming on the top magnetic vectors orientated in one direction parallel to the coil axis, and on the bottom vectors of the same magnitude oriented oppositely to those on top. If we observe the coil from the side we then see that the consecutive vectors along the coil axis would form several closed toroidal loops circulating into the ferrite core. As we stated elsewhere, Wilbert Smith himself while experimenting with the Tensor coil, claimed to have recorded time differential effects between the coil field and the outer environment. This phenomenon, as well as non-coupling of signal between coils, may arise from the unique trapped toroidal magnetic field described above.

don is a clean one no after effects.

rgds

zzz
very important
the position of spark gap in my circuit is important. dont use spark gap in series. caps must be parallel with primary and a spark gap in parallel before LC combination. if u change spark gap position all u will be getting induction power which is always under unity and we dont want that. so keep spark gap as shown in above figure. veryyyyyyyyy important
Spark Gap
12v 15 sec touch and start supply. custom made nst tesla stepdown tesla dsmith circuit customised. driven transformer 1:1 250 v ac and 12 dc 2 amps fed back.
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wotever frequency u can feed with ur flyback feed it. keep spark gap before c and L parallel make it resonate. here frequency dont matter. all thats matters is resonance. if u get resonance. even at high frequency u will get results. dont downgrade ur frequency try to get resonance only. don even asked to use frequency in mega hertz also. so dont worry.

fire ur flyback. feed to primary. match cap and get resonance. forget 30-35khz ok.
Frequence
http://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/LC-Resonance-Calculator.phtml
LC Resonance Calculator
hI i just used pvc insulated insulated wire i found lying in my home did not measure the gauge of it but its solid copper single strand.and used basic rule of thumb primary coil wire is half thick than secondary but results were low as i was not getting the amps. so i used thicker copper wire like kapanadze. and got amps. the basic is when u have resonance the thicker coil generates more amps and if u wanna keep input low make primary thinner. experiments make u learn wots better for u. i used single strand copper ac wire 2mm thick 220-230 v A.C. and for secondary used thicker alluminum wire first then changed to copper. 16mm thick.
Wire Thickness
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wire thickness
50 60 HZ 220
Windings step down
Hi thanks webmug for the info. use parallel spark gap across primary. so dont worry about the high voltage u can join same coil reversed to ur present coil and do a step down. and use hf diodes and filter hf with low amps and use invertor. or u have a choice to make ur own air core transformer. the best method is to make dc and use invertor. since this device is suceptible to rf interference unless enclosed in a metal cage. and when we have dc its not that much problem if we have hv spikes coz diodes take care of that. but always use proper caps across ur rectified dc to smooth dc output.

use spark gap-very important

wish u all the luck. and if u feel u r not able to handle high voltage then use reverse tesla design.(make L1=primary 4 times of secondary L2.this means If L2 is 1 feet then L1 is 4 feet) and if using bifilar L2 then 1 feet+1 feet and 4 feet L1.
Good luck to u!

best wishes
and if u need any help we r all here to advice u!

i request all members to help eachother and not just be selfish.

united we stand and divided we fall!

remember this motto!

regards

zilano zeis zane!
Windings
The 16mm thick secondary is a nice size to pickup lots of amps. What amp and volts does it output?

Cheers Mike

Hi mike!

40 amps output at 230=250 v
regards
zzz
yes its same that i have used!

solid copper hammered over iron pipe for coiling
regards
zzz
my nst is sine wave 4kv 500 ma. downgraded voltage from 4kv to 250v hf. then i used r across my transformer that is 1:1 rated for 60 amps.and get 250 v ac. 50 hz
Eighty turns at 2" produces a wire length of about 42'. Five turns of 3" produce a length of about 4'. That disagrees with your statement about the secondary needing to be 1/4 of the length of the primary.

Hi there!
yes u r right. i did not follow don basics here. coz i used c with L to get resonance. but for newbees and novices following don basic is must till they get to know the basic behind don. morover its easy to get resonance with 4L and 1/4L and smaller caps values can be used to tap natural resonant frequencies of the coils.

in my case i made transformer and than used caps to match frequencies. this wisdom comes after experiments.

regards

zzz
VERY IMPORTANT=ALL FREQUENCIES ARE PRESENT AT SPARK GAP
Frequence
http://www.calculatoredge.com/electronics/coilwinding.htm#awg
use caps! to store each cycle and cycles can be 30khz or more.
when there are millions of raindrops falling how will u collect them as water to shower? with a bucket of course. here caps r buckets and u r filling them at 110 or 120 volts and electrons r coming 30 thousand times a second.
AT HIGH VOLTAGE AMPS ARE LOWERED AND WHEN U STEP DOWN AMPS R HIGH AND VOLTAGE IS LOW. ITS JUST REVERSE. AND POWER REMAINS SAME AT RESONANCE COZ THE RESISTANCE OF CIRCUIT IS ZERO. MOREOVER AT HIGH VOLTAGE ELECTRONS DONT GO INSIDE THE WIRE THEY TRAVEL ON SURFACE SO LESS RESISTANCE.

WE SEE POWER WHEN ELECTRONS TRAVEL INSIDE CONDUCTOR GIVING HEAT AND LIGHT.

U HAVE SEEN BULB LIGHTING FROM TESLA COIL WITH A CAPS IN SERIES.
CAPS JUST MAKE CURRENT FORWARD IN PHASE OF VOLTAGE AND LOWERS VOLTAGE.

AT HIGH VOLTAGE AMPS ARE LOW
AT LOW VOLTAGE LAMPS GLOW
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http://www.tweedehands.nl/listuser/3216567/?start=164
http://www.tweedehands.nl/zendamateur/componenten/trafo-s/practisch-nieuwe-ziekenhuis-onstoring-trafo-95427315.html?list_cat=trafo
http://zendamateur.goedbegin.nl/
http://www.ascapacitor.com/index.php
http://www.mediafire.com/?8iwhlijj342b2
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2820531/don_smith_free_energy/
Video`s Don
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the wave pattern u got is resonance and its from the coils. since u used caps on primary and secondary ur resonant condition is maintained. ur primary is radio transmitting station and ur secondary is radio recieving station. so even if u keep primary far apart from secondary it will keep transmitting and secondary will be resonating with ur primary thats the magic of rf resonant frequency. all u need is to use diode now and attach a storage cap and then try to light ur bulb after cap. since its hf and hv so amps wont appear as much as after making dc with storage cap as constant amperage device. u r on right track and one step away from success.
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Measuring NST freq.
Today, 04:00 AM
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Ok I hooked up one of my nst's to my new coil. Alot brighter bulb then pulsing the fly back. With the scope wand in the air around the coil this is the scope shot I'm getting. Thats CW-CCW. I'm not sure what the frequency of the nst is yet, but it seems the more capacitance I add to the primary and secondary, the more energy i'm getting. Still more testing to do.
Finding resonant freq.

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Well, my pulse only goes up to 3mhz, but my sine wave goes up to 20mhz. A trick I found for finding resonance of a coil without spanning the whole frequency spectrum, is to pulse one coil with gen near the coil you are checking with 1khz pulse, and watch the other coil directly on the scope. Zoom in on the pulses and you can see the resonant frequency.

I'm in the same boat, I would only be able to check by output too on how bright the bulb would be, but i'll try it anyhow.

So you are saying if we pulse "A" coil next to the coil we are going to use in close proximity to it, we can measure the resonant freq. of the coil we are probing with our scope?
and find the resonant freq.
Ze said we can either force our chosen freq. as she did by using an oscillator. with a simple sign wave.....

humm that is your way. nice
Ze was explaining all we needed to do would be to get the freq to 234 Mhz by using the 1/4 to 1 rule? or 4:1

I got totally lost.
I have been studing the dr stiffler ways to srf and SRF so I have most of the baces covered with these three different methods.

there are so many ways to do this I need to quit talking and start doing and testing.

I have added more picture files and some other goodies I had collected while collecting date about magnetic resonance

Purfect practice makes purfect!

h2ocommuter
Yes, and if you add caps to the coil you are probing, you will see the resonant frequency changes, I just got used to doing it that way, probably easier if you just use an LCR meter and use the online calculator.
What I'm currently using is CW and CCW both full wavelength. I move the scope probe all over and I get that same scope shot, it just gets bigger or smaller. I disconnect the coils all together and grab a shot of of just the nst throwing a plasma charge, I'm getting a constant 32.8khz, no reverse triangle...well, at least I know the freq of my nst. I'm guessing that waveform is from the coils.
Your experience is very important ! Can you post a picture how you placed everything ? First I'm very interested how you was able to measure frequency of NST from plasma discharge ? Do you mean spark gap ? How is it combined with NST ? I'm asking because I thought that it is impossible to measure output frequency that way because if I short my flyback with spark gap it seems to change frequency depending on air gap.

Second - I think - you are "in bussiness" like Don Smith said ! Your scope shots have shown resonant rise as pictured in Don video from 1996.

I think this is very important because one of the main problems with Don setup is spark gap - there is no resonance in primary due to spark gap acting as a "dirty hole" spreading energy in sound and light around. It's like a swing , when a few people trying to push it from two sides and it simply cannot speed up because they are not "synchronized".

If your spark gap is no messsing with frequencies then it may work like it should - to break at the peak of wave - this is imho the most important stage eveybody is failing at.
Zilano
I was measuring it at the point when it is just a bluish purple stream, no sound of a spark, just a high pitched sound. You might be right, I didn't change the distance as I was measuring it. Whenever I pulled the wires too far apart it would throw the overload protection and I have to remove power to the nst and wait a couple seconds before reapplying. It would probably be easier for me to just make a video to answer your questions.

On another note, today I completely removed the primary from inside of the secondaries and I'm still getting that waveform So I guess its not the coils combined.
Today, 06:21 PM
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Thanks zilano! I will have to study what you just said. Give me time

Ok, I'm not sure what my voltage is on my secondary. I know that it changes with spark gap adjustment because when I increase the spark gap distance sparks will jump the base of the bulbs on the secondary. I'll figure out someway to check it. I could always use one of my other step down coil sets just to check voltage. My only problem is finding a iron cored transformer to step down a that high of voltage. I guess I will have to make that my self. I believe one of your old posts told how to calculate what cap is required to drop the frequency, will have to check the archive. Ok, more figuring to do.

Thanks again zilano

thats why i said make coils according to ur nst voltage and so u know how much voltage u will be having IN SECONDARY. but here is a remedy use a parallel spark gap across secondary b4 diodes so it will keep the voltages in control and if voltage overshoots it will spark and maintain secondary voltage. please dont forget to earth the middle join of ur secondary.(important) IF U DO THAT THEN U DONT NEED SECONDARY SPARK GAP.
Today, 06:28 PM
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Thanks zilano! I will have to study what you just said. Give me time

Ok, I'm not sure what my voltage is on my secondary. I know that it changes with spark gap adjustment because when I increase the spark gap distance sparks will jump the base of the bulbs on the secondary. I'll figure out someway to check it. I could always use one of my other step down coil sets just to check voltage. My only problem is finding a iron cored transformer to step down a that high of voltage. I guess I will have to make that my self. I believe one of your old posts told how to calculate what cap is required to drop the frequency, will have to check the archive. Ok, more figuring to do.

Thanks again zilano

WELL EARTH UR SECONDARY AT THE MIDDLE JOIN. IT WILL STABILIZE VOLTAGE. HOW MANY TURNS U R HAVING IN PRIMARY N SECONDARY?
http://www.cpipower.com/neon_cat3_sub2.asp
well its better u get an SOLID STATE nst with 2kv or 4kv 30-40 khz 12 volt dc like drak did. so u can save urself winding the turns and get a fast start on don smith. VIEW DRAK'S NST PIC AND GET ONE.
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Hi Zilano,

Question:
What capacitor(s) (voltage, kva) did you use after reverse coils and diodes for energy storage and how did you solve the output stage from the capacitors to get useful wattage?

You said 10kW or 10kva at what voltage and frequency?

I have no idea how to "safely" convert the DC energy (amps) stored in the capacitors.

For example 230v, 50hz, 1kva, use inverter?
(10kva is a large transformer and should handle high currents !)

Best Regards!

step up then step down aircore make dc(diode bridge) use caps(they determine ur power output) and filter then use invertor. or follow don and tesla if u dont want to use invertor.

tesla used spark instead of transistor to oscillate a circuit. in modern times u can use IGBT.

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i feel that many members on here r not happy with me or my postings on here. so i decided not to be here anymore. or post anything on here further.

goodbye folks

regards

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Zilano stated we can using welding rods cooper coated...from my understanding and knowledge the welding rods have no ferrite frequency properties ;they have no the ferrite composition; they can be used at maximum 100,maybe 200 Hertz ;so if we will make primary to oscillate at some 30 Khz with welding rods inside ,all these rods will heat up adding losses to the system...

If my supposition are true can somebody help me to understand why Zilano stated we can using welding rods?

to stop and supress scalar waves. copper is used.
Power Factor Capacitor:
Be sure to use only "run" type capacitors, as opposed to "start" type capacitors. Start capacitors are designed to only be used for short periods of time, to start a motor for example. They will overheat and possibly explode if run continuously.
Today, 03:19 PM
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I guess the thing that has been blocking me from buying a solid state NST is that they are listed for sale without a nominal output frequency.

I can't find a single one that lists its output frequency. So I'm going to have to put the one I bought on the scope.

And since it isn't a coil, I can't put an LCR meter on it.

And if my scope isn't calibrated correctly, I'm going to be off. So it seems like a greater challenge to get resonance with this unless the NST picks up the frequency of the coil.

How does this work?

Also... I ordered a 12V 4kV-6kV 30ma supply yesterday. But I also have an AC supply for 5kV @ 30ma already. Any reason I should use 12V instead of the AC supply? Seems like it will be easier to close the loop later with the 120V AC supply.

shine

well 12 volt is recommended so u can see it charges battery too when connected with same length of wire as is in ur primary to the battery as RF charges battery when the device is running. u can use 120 volt operated 5kv 30-40khz nst if u have that. it will work .

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bifilars and caduceus produces scalar waves and copper can be used to supress the effect but it also reduces the output. ---russian devices
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/parres.html
Today, 09:28 PM
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No, That capacitor in parallel is calculated and will not affect the natural resonance. That I asked Zilano to do, to repost again about '' ring down''. I didn’t saved her posts. I remember she spoke about 240 sparks per second and a cap about 6nF...I don't remember the equation for C, something like 1/2*3,14 *NTS voltage *NTS milliamp, I don't remember...

well the post u r quoting here is not my post. well here in don circuit a different thing going on we r xciting continuously the middle of a magnet where NS domains meet and it has to be xcited continuously. there is not going to be resonance rise. we r just making non ionic electrons xcited and using them. this effect is different from Tesla. but we use resonance from tesla.
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So we need a 28.8kw resistor? Which voltage and amps are we multiplying here?

Drak!

make dc and filter ie hvdc and pulse with Hvdc in series with spark gap to a coil and cap having frequency 60 hz(aircoil) and feed the two terminals of the coil to ur ironcore trafo.

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Ok, will try that! Thank you ((()))

How high of DC voltage are we talking? 120v or 1000v or 10000v? Well, it would at least have to be over 350 volts or it won't spark, I'll try 1,200 that way I can test with a basic 10:1 transformer I have lying around here.

work accoding to the voltage u calculated in ur secondary and make trafo according to that but b4 trafo u will be having hv so use cap for 60 hz combo according to that voltage.
MYTH: PEOPLE TEND TO THINK LOAD ALTERS RESONANCE BUT ITS JUST FALLACY TO THINK THAT. U HAVE CLEAR EXAMPLE OF CRYSTAL RADIO SET. THE TUNED FREQUENCY REMAINS SAME AND U HEAR MUSIK STILL. SO LOAD DONT CHANGE RESONANCE AND DERATES IT. IT JUST A SWITCH of TAP AND WATER KEEPS COMING! wash or bathe ur decision.
"Reverse Tesla Coil" is where the spark gap pulsed DC voltage from a 4000 volt (4kv) 30 kHz NST (neon
sign transformer) goes into an air coil primary P of high inductance (80 turns thin wire) that then "steps down"
the voltage to 240 volts AC a low inductance Secondary coil centered over the primary coil (5 turns bifilar,
center tap, thick wire) with high amperage output. The high frequency (35kHz) AC output can then power
loads (light bulbs) or can be rectified to DC to power DC loads.
Copper coated welding rods can be inserted into the air coil to increase the inductance of the air coil primary
that then increases the output amperage from the secondary coil to the loads.
very important
the position of spark gap in my circuit is important. dont use spark gap in series. caps must be parallel with
primary and a spark gap in parallel before LC combination. if u change spark gap position all u will be getting
induction power which is always under unity and we dont want that. so keep spark gap as shown in above
figure. veryyyyyyyyy important.
Today, 05:04 PM
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The Tesla coil uses only half the vector field, the Don Smith device is the only device Iv seen that uses both sides of the vector field, it has twice the power compared to the Tesla coil.

My 5 cents

The two secondaries have different function than single coil. One is charge hungry while second is charge full so you do not need Earth connection anymore.

Tesla interrupted spark discharge as soon as it began. You can try simple experiment with BEMF on coil: when making sharp spike on coil activation time you maximize its inertial BEMF(not easy to achieve because traditional generators make square/triangle/sinusoidal impulses only). The results will be seen on oscilloscope easily. With Tesla coil you maximize static charge in secondary with same principle.
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50 60 Hz
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CurrentTransformer Measuering?
yes its the spark!

spark changes the game from low to high and high to low!
the game of frequency is played below
step up frequency and step up voltage. harvest power lower frequency and step down voltage. and there u go!
these lines above have all the magic from HF TO LF. those who will understand need less components and achieve the desired!

moreover am here to help ya

always !

UNTIL AM NOT CAPTURED BY A UFO

rgds
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http://www.freeenergyinventions.com/Resonance_and_Inductance_formulas.html
http://www.freeenergyinventions.com/FrequencyNomograph.gif
HERE IS NEW ARRANGEMENT FOR LOW INPUT. HERE WE JUST TRIGGER RESONANCE SO WE NEED JUST FEEBLE SPARK TO GET COILS RINGING. OUTPUT IS NOT EFFECTED AND HIGH INPUT NOT REQUIRED COZ WE R USING FERRITE CORE OR RODS. AIR CORE COILS R DEPENDENT ON HIGH INPUT SO MAGNETIC FIELD PRODUCED IS STRONGER. HERE FERRITE STRENGTHENS THE MAGNETIC FEILD SO LOWER INPUT AND EVEN A FEEBLE SPARK CAN TRIGGER RESONANCE. USE PRI 1/4 OF SEC. AND U WONT BE NEEDING CAPS AND COILS CAN BE MADE FROM ORDINARY THICK WIRE. BUT OUTPUT COILS MUCH THICKER TO GET MORE AMPS.TRY WITH SAME WIRE ALL COILS FIRST. WIRE MUST BE PVC COATED. IF LENGTHS R USED IN 1/4 AND 4 RATIO U DONT NEED CAPS. IN CASE U DONT GET IT RINGING THEN USE CAPS. THE SHORTED LENGTH IS REPLACED WITH CAP across one coil of bifilar see 2nd pic.
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Donald L Smith Device - part 1 of 5
Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 1 of 19
Donald L Smith Free Energy
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Spark gap game
+ Voltage lowering
Same concept, but first you need to start understanding what HV capacitor discharge does in primary counter-bifiler/caduceus coil, why there are 2 coils on Tesla coil secondary, where are 3 resonance points between discharge/primary/1 leg of secondary LC, how you accumulate electrostatic charge and how you discharge it and convert into conventional electricity.

Without practical step by step experiments it is deep forest and only way to get knowledge is - build own Tesla coil, make it emit electrostatic charge(it is not step up conventional electrical transformer!) then make second 1:1 copy of first coil, connect them together over spark gap/hv capacitor, then merge them together..
Hi Folks!

spark is the source of over unity which is discharged thru a zero resistance circuit(resonance) so energy loss is minimum. lighting bulbs at high frequency wont burn bright coz of high frequency and high voltage. lower frequency and lower voltage and see the difference and xcess power is urz.

pure ferrite core setup can be used if core is a continuous solid cylinder. or two cores for primary and secondary can be used with individual cores placed close to each other.

DON OUTPUT TRAFO

don used ferrite cored trafo and pulsed half wave dc thru spark gap OR DIODE to a coil combo of trafo with L of trafo with a suitable cap for 60 hz triggering. since its half wave input but at the output u get full wave coz of back emf.

thats the story in short.

spark is must as it its needed to pre xcite the ambient called invisible source of energy. with only pure resonance u cant get overunity. u need a combo spark+resonance thatS the way to go for OU

U NEED A BUFFER(TEMPORARY STORAGE AREA) ALSO AND HERE BUFFER IS CAPACITOR BEFORE THE OUTPUT TRAFO IN DON CIRCUIT. SPARKS R LIKE RAINDROPS FALLING AND U NEED A BUCKET TO STORE THEM SO UR CAP IS THE BUCKET OR ENERGY RESERVOIR THAT KEEPS PUMPING TO TRAFO WITH LIKE A BATTERY THAT TRIGGERS COL OF TRAFO CONSTANTLY WITH SPARK OR A DIODE. ONE SPARK GAP IS MUST IN THE CIRCUIT TO COLLECT THE ENERGY DROPS. AND DROPS MAKE A POND REMEMBER.

SPARK KEEPS PUMPING XCESS OF ENERGY SO ITS A VITAL PART OF CIRCUIT AS LONG AS SPARK IS RUNNING U WILL GET WHOPPING AMOUNT OF ENERGY.

TIP: SPARK CAN BE GENERATED AT 350 VOLT ALSO AND 350 VOLT IS MANAGEABLE VOLTAGE.

REGARDS

ZELINA ZILANO ZEIS ZANE

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Originally Posted by zilano
well here we r not making high power tesla coil. didnt u see kapanadze spark. the spark here need not be quenched. a tesla coil contains thousands of turns. well here we have 20- 40 turns in secondary so its miniature tesla so power requirements r low. we can make spark even at 1000 volts and it will be sufficient for the process. since we r using air coils thats why we need a lot of magnetic field so we use thicker primary. if we use ferrite power input can be lesser say 6 volt 1 amp or less.KAPANADZE USED DON CIRCUIT. ALL HIS DEVICES ARE DON REPLICATIONS.
THE THIEF CIRCUIT THAT SR 193 USED IS NOT WORTH THATS WHY SR 193 GOT 150 WATT POWER. the generator can produce much amt of power but how much we want in kw dpends on tha caps used for collection. how much u collect decides the capacity of ur generator. its like rain falling but u cant collect all rain water. u will collect as much ur bucket can hold. use larger bucket for larger harvest. use capacitor formula to calculate kw capacity. ur bucket is a capacitor.

Spark is a wonderful switch and works fine. old technology is gold technology. in dons circuit all u need is caps n coils and no transistors needed even to produce sine wave AC 50/60 hz 110,120 220, 230 volts.

remember TESLA TIMES was an era with no transistors. when he did it can be done today also.

rgds

zelina zilano zeis zane
50 Hz Caps?
its not necessary to store energy in cpacitor and rectify we can directly feed it to the transformer.

rgds

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Hi folks!

spark gap is current amplifier. the xcess power u get in a resonance system is due to spark gap. one can use lightening arrestor also. electrons need to jump between two points so extra electrons or i must rather say particles with speeds faster than light can couple with the jumping electrons giving rise to xcess energy.

TIMMING OF SPARK GAP CAN BE DONE BY FEEDING WITH A DIODE FROM THE PRIMARY ACROSS SPARK GAP WITH +VE FEED BACK. SO SYSTEM OF SPARKING KNOWS WHEN OSCILLATIONS NEED TO BE REFUELLED AGAIN WHEN THE OSCILLATIONS IN THE PRIMARY FADES. GIVING CONTINUOUS FLOW. TREAT SPARK GAP AS AN OPEN THERMOIONIC TUBE AND DIODE ACTS AS GATE OR BASE IN CASE OF A TRANSISTOR. SPARK IS A VOLTAGE OPERATED DEVICE UNLIKE ITS COUNTERPART TRANSISTOR. SPARK GAP IS CURRENT AMPLIFIER MUCH LIKE A THERMIONIC VALVE.

REGARDS

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Hi folks!

spark gap is current amplifier. the xcess power u get in a resonance system is due to spark gap. one can use lightening arrestor also. electrons need to jump between two points so extra electrons or i must rather say particles with speeds faster than light can couple with the jumping electrons giving rise to xcess energy.

The spark gap is a switch about what N. Tesla was talking about in his early research - Gerry Vassilatos and Tesla

SHOCKWAVES

"... while endeavoring toward his own means for identifying electrical waves, Tesla was blessed with an accidental observation which forever changed the course of his experimental investigations. Indeed, it was an accident which forever changed the course of his life and destiny. In his own attempts to achieve where he felt Hertz had failed, Tesla developed a powerful method by which he hoped to generate and detect real electromagnetic waves. Part of this apparatus required the implementation of a very powerful capacitor bank. This capacitor "battery" was charged to very high voltages, and subsequently discharged through short copper bus-bars. The explosive bursts thus obtained produced several coincident phenomena which deeply impressed Tesla, far exceeding the power of any electrical display he had ever seen. These proved to hold an essential secret which he was determined to uncover.

The abrupt sparks, which he termed "disruptive discharges", were found capable of exploding wires into vapor. They propelled very sharp shockwaves, which struck him with great force across the whole front of his body. Of this surprising physical effect, Tesla was exceedingly intrigued. Rather like gunshots of extraordinary power than electrical sparks, Tesla was completely absorbed in this new study. Electrical impulses produced effects commonly associated only with lightning. The explosive effects reminded him of similar occurrences observed with high voltage DC generators. A familiar experience among workers and engineers, the simple closing of a switch on a high voltage dynamo often brought a stinging shock, the assumed result of residual static charging.

This hazardous condition only occurred with the sudden application of high voltage DC. This crown of deadly static charge stood straight out of highly electrified conductors, often seeking ground paths which included workmen and switchboard operators. In long cables, this instantaneous charge effect produced a hedge of bluish needles, pointing straight away from the line into the surrounding space. The hazardous condition appeared briefly, at the very instant of switch closure. The bluish sparking crown vanished a few milliseconds later, along with the life of any unfortunate who happened to have been so "struck". After the brief effect passed, systems behaved as designed. Such phenomena vanished as charges slowly saturated the lines and systems. After this brief surge, currents flowed smoothly and evenly as designed.

The effect was a nuisance in small systems. But in large regional power systems where voltages were excessive, it proved deadly. Men were killed by the effect, which spread its deadly electrostatic crown of sparks throughout component systems. Though generators were rated at a few thousand volts, such mysterious surges represented hundreds of thousands, even millions of volts. The problem was eliminated through the use of highly insulated, heavily grounded relay switches. Former engineering studies considered only those features of power systems which accommodated the steady state supply and consumption of power. It seemed as though large systems required both surge and normal operative design considerations. Accommodating the dangerous initial "supercharge" was a new feature. This engineering study became the prime focus of power companies for years afterward, safety devices and surge protectors being the subject of a great many patents and texts.

Tesla knew that the strange supercharging effect was only observed at the very instant in which dynamos were applied to wire lines, just as in his explosive capacitor discharges. Though the two instances were completely different, they both produced the very same effects. The instantaneous surge supplied by dynamos briefly appeared super-concentrated in long lines. Tesla calculated that this electrostatic concentration was several orders in magnitude greater than any voltage which the dynamo could supply. The actual supply was somehow being amplified or transformed. But how?...
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This really needs to be checked out it would tell us if the particles orbiting the coil in the E field are electrons or sub electrons.
Dave

the cw and ccw coil works in combination to counteract bemf produced by cw coil. so it produces pure vector. when pure vector (thats voltage) stepped down produces power required to glow lamps powerfully. when voltage is high lamps dont light up bright coz current doesnt go thru wire of bulb it just travel on surface of the wire or literally jumping across the two electrodes of the bulb. the bulb glows with white light and doesnt heat up. when u lower voltage the current goes thru the wire of bulb and bulb glows and produce heat and light.

rgds
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I guess you could say their counteracting the bemf, its working with what we call bemf instead of working against it.
And yes the voltage may need to be stepped down, but remember Don said you could lower the input and therefor lower the output if the voltage and amps are sufficient.
Dave

well power decider is the formula

p=0.5.c.(k.xfactor)v-sqrd.f
c- cap
v-voltage
f-frequency
k= dielectric constant
x factor is =Ri+Ro/Ro-Ri

c=.002uf
k=2
and xfactor=20
and voltage=10kv
f=5khz
we have
.5
.002 ×
1,000,000 ÷
2 ×
10 ×
10,000 ×
10,000 ×
5,000 ×
--------------------------
10,000 = 10,000 joules sec=10k joules sec

since 1 joule=1 watt sec
we have 10 kwatt power

so here voltage is 10kv and frequency 5khz we can also use lower voltage and increase frequency and find right combo for power out.

rgds

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Thank you,

So lets say I have 33khz output and I want to drop it to 60hz. In the frequency field do I enter 60hz or 33khz? The inductance I would assume is the inductance of the primary of the isolation transformer. And that will give the cap and resistor needed?

enter 60 hz and enter the value of primary of ur trafo. it will give u tha value of cap dont use resisitor here coz u need 60 hz.

what dc voltage u r having in the output after FWBR?

SINCE THE OUTPUT IS IN VARS AFTER FWBR USE CAPS ACCORDING TO VOLTAGE AND MAKE A BUFFER SO THEY GET CHARGED AND SUPPLY CONTINUOUS AMPS THEN TRY TO LIGHT BULB.
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Zilano,

Can I use just a standard 120v to 12vdc transformer as a isolation just for testing? I have a bunch of them, or do I have to make my own? I measured 123.41mH for the input to a transformer I had laying around. That gave me:

57.014774 uF cap
and 46.52 ohms reactance.

Does that mean that I need a resistor at 46 ohms and a cap at 57uF across the transformer leads, and can I hook that up directly to my stepdown output? Do I need a diode? I suppose I should just check the archives before asking, lol

I posted a video back there in case you missed it

u r catching on great work!

yes after fwbr use filter to bypass 33khz ripples and then use storage caps 2mfd rated for the voltage use voltage divider to get 12 volt and use push pull after that. u can now use any 12 volt to 120 volt iron cored trafo. but remember not to overload trafo than its rated amps else it will burn. coz the storage caps can supply more amps. but ur ironcored trafo will take as much as it can handle where as load will try to draw more and can overload trafo. if ur 12 v to 120 trafo is rated 5 amps then dont draw load more than 5 amps. pic attached to give u wot u have to do after storage caps.

zelina

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Mhz frequency in the short, heavy wire primary and long thin wire secondary regardless of the NST frequency?

well when using aircores u need thick wires to couple resonance. yes if u use tesla like arrangement then the frequency will depend upon the LC combination. where as nst just works as high frequency and high voltage power supply.

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@ DRAK

did u use the centre join of cw and ccw with earth ground? if u did not then do so.

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The bulb seems to be a little dimmer though after the FWB then before. .

well u need to adjust resonance. with fwbr resonance need to be adjusted.
use earth ground to increase performance.

rgds

zelina
http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-XLC.htm
, 06:43 AM
zilano
Junior Member Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 14

@ DRAK

did u use the centre join of cw and ccw with earth ground? if u did not then do so.

rgds
zelina
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 14

Quote:
Originally Posted by drak

The bulb seems to be a little dimmer though after the FWB then before. .

well u need to adjust resonance. with fwbr resonance need to be adjusted.
use earth ground to increase performance.

rgds

zelin
Today, 05:36 PM
zilano
Junior Member Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 16

Quote:
Originally Posted by cognito
Hi,

This is what I understand how it should be connected.
Use varistors to limit the voltage and protect the transformer (everyone's feedback is appreciated)

(see attachment)

Best regards

this will produce 60 hz ac but it is intermittant(depending on spark frequency) with a break in 60 hz wave. its is useful to light bulbs with break. break not apparent but for inductive loads and electronic equipment we need continuous wave ac 60 hz thats only possible with push pull or invertor.
Voltage control
VOLTAGE CONTROL SHUNT IS A VARIABLE CAPACITOR
Grounding
U CAN USE 2MFD 120 VOLT
AND USE A METAL OXIDE VARISTOR FOR 120 VOLT
FOR MAINTAINING 120 VOLTS THEN VOLTAGE DIVIDER SO U GET 12 VOLTS TO DRIVE TRAFO
its always safe n best to use iron cored transformer after fwbr and not b4 that coz high frequency b4 fwbr can saturate the core and heat it up and destroy it.

always use iron cored trafo after fwbr. and if u have ferrite core trafo u can use it freely without any dangers of melting it.
match ur nst frequency with ur primary without the secondary. when its matched then add secondary and match primary with ur secondary. follow step wise.
well my circuit i kept on matching from nst to primary and secondary. and so on.

regds
zzz
Resonance !
Bruce,
A short summary of the testing - four separate units - all identical. 12 Volt input into 2000 Volt module through 12,000. Volt diode bridge into heavy duty capacitor. Positive diode bridge connect only with, negative capacitor open - unattached. With the system working check the output at the negative capacitor. With a proper hookup it accesses an endless energy source.
DS
07-14-2004

Bruce,
The Device in question is the same one I demonstrated at the Tesla convention 5 years ago that caused such a ruckus. The Inverter circuit already has the necessary components required. Disconnect the main diode bridge negative output from the output capacitor bank. Then hook the disconnected negative capacitor to a separate circuit which powers the load and into an adjustable earth grounding. At this point you are tapped into the universal source of endless energy. There is a simple way which does not require the inverter. Any how let me know and will work it out. You already have all the required parts as does most everyone else.

Regards, DS
07-23-2004

Bruce,
Wipe out 6, 7 and 8 and connect the diode bridge where #6 was. Number one is a tritium battery with half life of 11 years, small size. The output appears to be pulsating DC but is actually high frequency which explains the ill matched light bulbs.
Regards, DS
08-02-2004

Bruce,
The plasma tube device dipole with the capacitor plates at right angle get's greater than 65,000 times the input. The energy has to be already there to be seen. Special Interest try to discredit this type of observation. Since this is energy from the ambient, is high frequency, use a diode bridge with the negative plate as an open circuit. The capacitor transformer opens the door to an endless source of useful energy. I successfully built the device here described. The operation will be Tuesday.
Regards, D.S.
09-02-2004
http://www.rfparts.com/caps_variabletuning.html
well many ways to tap power!
he was not talking about connecting antenna but how to tap power easy way.
Originally Posted by zilano
Bruce,
A short summary of the testing - four separate units - all identical. 12 Volt input into 2000 Volt module through 12,000. Volt diode bridge into heavy duty capacitor. Positive diode bridge connect only with, negative capacitor open - unattached. With the system working check the output at the negative capacitor. With a proper hookup it accesses an endless energy source.
DS
07-14-2004

Bruce,
The Device in question is the same one I demonstrated at the Tesla convention 5 years ago that caused such a ruckus. The Inverter circuit already has the necessary components required. Disconnect the main diode bridge negative output from the output capacitor bank. Then hook the disconnected negative capacitor to a separate circuit which powers the load and into an adjustable earth grounding. At this point you are tapped into the universal source of endless energy. There is a simple way which does not require the inverter. Any how let me know and will work it out. You already have all the required parts as does most everyone else.

Regards, DS
07-23-2004

Bruce,
Wipe out 6, 7 and 8 and connect the diode bridge where #6 was. Number one is a tritium battery with half life of 11 years, small size. The output appears to be pulsating DC but is actually high frequency which explains the ill matched light bulbs.
Regards, DS
08-02-2004

Bruce,
The plasma tube device dipole with the capacitor plates at right angle get's greater than 65,000 times the input. The energy has to be already there to be seen. Special Interest try to discredit this type of observation. Since this is energy from the ambient, is high frequency, use a diode bridge with the negative plate as an open circuit. The capacitor transformer opens the door to an endless source of useful energy. I successfully built the device here described. The operation will be Tuesday.
Regards, D.S.
09-02-2004
Quote:
Originally Posted by TanTric
as promissed here is the video:

I used a bifilar Primary and connected a small 220V 40W light bulb on one of those coils (acting as secondary), the secondary (6turns) is feeding a 12V 20W small light bulb...

at the end of the video i show a cap charge of 10 seconds directly from the 6 turns secondary with diodes and then the discharge (Boom), if i let them charge for 30 seconds it is really scary Burst!! and if i use the FWBR it almost double!

tryed to feed the energy from the cap bank to my ferrite transformer (220V to 12V) connected in paralel ressonance to 60Hz but cannot get nothing on the output! any suggestion?

when u feed high frequency to iron core trafo the core saturates and magnetic field gets cancelled so no output. u have to lower frequency. make dc with fwbr and use caps to store power use a 12 volt relay with cap combination to oscillate lesser cycles and try to connect iron cored trafo. or use 555 timer with relay combination to get 60 hz or 50 hz accordingly. when frequency is low and voltage is 250v or 120 volt ac then u will see real power. use metal oxide varistor MOV to lower voltage with one end of mov earthed to ground then use relay to operate ur iron cored trafo. u can use push pull combination also.or

use
after fwbr

T=RC AND T=L/R

T=50 HZ OR 60 HZ

SAY T=50

AND C=2mfd

T=R*C

50=2mfd*R
R=50/2mfd=50/.002f=25,000 ohms=25kohm

say L=25mili henry(mh)
and T=50 hz or 60 hz
T=L/R
50=25/R
R=25mh/50
since 1mh=1/1000 h
R=25/50,000
R=0.0005 ohms

put R for C in series with cap and R for L in parallel

the circuit will oscillate the primary of trafo at 50 hz or 60 hz accordingly.

rgds

zelina
Quote:
Originally Posted by TanTric
zelina, my trafo is ferrite core, so i guess it should work o.k on high frequency's??

what cap value do you suggest after the FWBR? can i use my 400V 1000uF cap?

i have lots of 12V and 220V relay's, would love if you can share a schematic explaining better how to do that? sory im just a newbie...

in what stage should i connect the varistor to lower the voltage?

thank you so much, you are awesome

varistor works before fwbr. it works for AC. first use 2mfd caps and test the trafo.
Here is Bruce's post dated 12-20-09:

(Quote)
Hmmm, nobody has said anything yet about adding an antenna to Don's circuit to
increase the energy yield of the device. Perhaps, I'm getting ahead of myself

Question-1

Where is the antenna attached to the circuit?

The antenna is attached to -DC on the circuit where an open lead is presently
shown.

Question-2

What is TheSecret?

TheSecret is where we are utilizing the high frequency, rectified output of a
set of diodes. There are several high voltage circuits that can accomplish this
and this will not depart from the spirit of the discovery. We must all remember
that T. H. Moray was the first to discover this fundamental principle. What we
have is an electrical circuit that pumps energy that is ever present.

Question-3

Exactly what is the source of energy that is being pumped?

It is the ions that surround our planet. They are created when they are hit by
the cosmic rays that bombard the planet's atmosphere 24 hours, seven days per
week. As T. H. Moray once stated, "its the ions, not the electrons." These ions
aren't the ordinary ions that we see when we scuffle our feet across a rug that
are discharged when we touch a metal object. They are ions created by the cosmic
rays that are highly energetic which individually can reach up to one billion
volts. They are by no means "static."

Question-4

How do we capture these kinetic ions that get up to one billion volts?

Like with any other pump, this requires valves that will gate the flow in one
direction. We need to divert the energy through our circuit so that they can be
utilized. Without a valve they go right to ground and as such are wasted. The
valve must be capable of gating ions. Common diodes are designed to gate
electrons. This is why the Don Smith device is blowing out its diodes. The
diodes in the Smith device are designed to gate electrons, not ionic charge.
This is where the Moray Valve and my Ion-Valve comes into play.

Question-5

Why do the wires in our circuit remain at room temperature?

Electrons move through an electrical conductor where there is a lot of
resistance and as such thermal energy is created.

Ions travel on the surface of a conductor where there is only a minute amount of
resistance, wherefore, no thermal energy.

Question-6

Are any laws of physics being violated?

No, we are expanding on the laws of physics.

Question-7

Will the environment be negatively impacted by a device that harnesses cosmic
energy?

No, our energy receiver diverts the flow of ions that surround the planet to do
useful work for us. It makes no difference where they are being diverted. Either
way, a load converts them to thermal energy. What is the difference if the load
is earth ground or our load?

Happy Holidays!

-Bruce P.

(end quote)

Yahoo! Groups

Zelina, please correct me if I am wrong.

Looks like a good place to put Tesla's "Plate P", to be impinged upon!

I love that plate.
well the idea is good. but the ions source in don circuit is spark gap or gas discharge tube. so its more like moray circuit. here we produce ions and feed em along with electrons to a capacitor. the capacitor holds all the 2k or 5k or 12k volts and electrons r forced filled so they repel each other and gets released in the coil thereby gaining kinetic energy which is more than the energy to compress fill them. this kinetic energy release more electrons and xcess energy is produced. more electrons come from air and released and xcess ones released to ground. here 2 things happen ionisation and kinetic energy gained in 2 steps first at spark gap and 2nd in the capacitor. electrons have to come out of the metal to work for us and spark gap does so.

regards
Quote:
Originally Posted by deggers
I was thinking that maybe the antenna would help in an automotive system where you don't have a real ground. Creating a greater potential difference to help power flow better. Maybe I'm way off base here.

Thank you very much. Your input is always greatly appreciated.

moreover moray circuit produced cold electricity and bulbs lit were cool to touch unlike in dons circuit bulbs heat up and we get same electricity as we get from the grid. we have to use more caps to store energy after fwbr so we feed constant current to the inverting circuit. don used 4 caps.

sorry for not reading ur question fully.

if u use L/4 AND L/4 THAT IS TOTAL L/2 secondary u dont need an earth ground and final earth can be attached to the body of the vehicle at the output of transformer.
it works. but the output of trafo needs to be 3 terminal whose centre point is earthed at the output.

interesting circuit
amps and capacitor

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Hi folks!

DECISION TO CHOOSE BUFFER CAPACITOR

as we know C=Q/V

Q=COULOMBS
V=VOLTAGE

A 2 MKFD @ 2000 VOLT CHARGED IN 1 SEC
CAPACITOR CAN PROVIDE OR HOLD
Q=C*V
Q=0.00002*2000
Q=0.004

SINCE 1 AMP= 1Q/1SEC
WE HAVE .004/1SEC
SO WE HAVE .004 AMP

SO A CAPACITOR 2000 MKFD @ 2000 VOLT CHARGED IN 1 SEC
CAN PROVIDE
Q=C*V OR HOLD
Q=0.002*2000
Q=4 /SEC

SO 4 AMPS/SEC IS PRODUCED OR HELD

AND 4 CAPS 2000MKFD RATED @ 2000 VOLTS CAN PRODUCE
4*4= 16 AMPS CONTINUOUSLY PER SECOND

SINCE P=V*I
POWER PRODUCED
P=2000*16
P=32,000 OR 32KW SEC
OR 32K JOULES

REGARDS

ZELIN
amps and capacitor

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Hi folks!

DECISION TO CHOOSE BUFFER CAPACITOR

as we know C=Q/V

Q=COULOMBS
V=VOLTAGE

A 2 MKFD @ 2000 VOLT CHARGED IN 1 SEC
CAPACITOR CAN PROVIDE OR HOLD
Q=C*V
Q=0.00002*2000
Q=0.004

SINCE 1 AMP= 1Q/1SEC
WE HAVE .004/1SEC
SO WE HAVE .004 AMP

SO A CAPACITOR 2000 MKFD @ 2000 VOLT CHARGED IN 1 SEC
CAN PROVIDE
Q=C*V OR HOLD
Q=0.002*2000
Q=4 /SEC

SO 4 AMPS/SEC IS PRODUCED OR HELD

AND 4 CAPS 2000MKFD RATED @ 2000 VOLTS CAN PRODUCE
4*4= 16 AMPS CONTINUOUSLY PER SECOND

SINCE P=V*I
POWER PRODUCED
P=2000*16
P=32,000 OR 32KW SEC
OR 32K JOULES

REGARDS

ZELIN
Caps storage
http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/basics/reactance.htm
Reactance Cap.Ind.
Capacitor dielectric ?
1996
2005
1998 ?
Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium
Resonance magnetic ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gedfire
Hello Zilano,

Thank you for your posts.It has been and continue to be an inspiration.Its fascinating.I am trying for a version that uses wireless energy transfer at resonance to multiple recievers.A replication of one by Don but using voltages from 12VDC to 240VDC.This time the centre coil will pulse about say 12 volts to magnetically resonant and well tuned reciever coils maybe (about three).Then based on the theories I should be able to operate several devices without loading the transmitter.I could do the same with 24 volts etc.The idea is that this would be a low voltage device with no spark gap.

I am wondering if large coils on the receiver side would increase amps as you implied? Do I really need the central transmitter coil as Don has it? I did not see any SG on the device of his.

BTW, isn't the transistor the descendant of the SG? Does it create the same effects as it big relative the mighty SG? maybe it does on a small scale with smaller scale effects? Switching and pushing the Zero Point energy field?

I would like to hear what the audience thinks.Any thoughts on a low voltage wireless tranmitter coil to multiple recievers?

yes more coil surface area produces more amps and u can even use a tesla plate for increasing area. scalar waves in khz range r blocked by obstacles and line of sight transfer is used where as if u go in mhz frequency then scalar waves pass thru all objects or obstacles and reaching destination. if u use toroid at the end of antennna at transmitter it transfers radially.

low voltage scalar transfer device with circuit and video. pulsed dc is used

scroll down to page for video and circuit so simple for low voltage.

every don device use lightening arrestor a sort of spark gap

well spark gap is voltage operated device where as transistor is current operated device. and spark is an important part of ou else kapanadze used transistor or don used transistor.

Freeenergyinventions

rgds
zzzz
from Tesla Symposium 1996 film
with bank of toroidal transformers
7 = Flyback or ignition coil. . . centertap the thing 11 and .. amperage
1996 Tesla film part 10
1996 film part 1 5.00 minute
"Reverse Tesla Coil" is where the spark gap pulsed DC voltage from a 4000 volt (4kv) 30 kHz NST (neon
sign transformer) goes into an air coil primary P of high inductance (80 turns thin wire) that then "steps down"
the voltage to 240 volts AC a low inductance Secondary coil centered over the primary coil (5 turns bifilar,
center tap, thick wire) with high amperage output. The high frequency (35kHz) AC output can then power
loads (light bulbs) or can be rectified to DC to power DC loads.
Copper coated welding rods can be inserted into the air coil to increase the inductance of the air coil primary
that then increases the output amperage from the secondary coil to the loads.
"Reverse Tesla Coil" is where the spark gap pulsed DC voltage from a 4000 volt (4kv) 30 kHz NST (neon
sign transformer) goes into an air coil primary P of high inductance (80 turns thin wire) that then "steps down"
the voltage to 240 volts AC a low inductance Secondary coil centered over the primary coil (5 turns bifilar,
center tap, thick wire) with high amperage output. The high frequency (35kHz) AC output can then power
loads (light bulbs) or can be rectified to DC to power DC loads.
Copper coated welding rods can be inserted into the air coil to increase the inductance of the air coil primary
that then increases the output amperage from the secondary coil to the loads.
very important
the position of spark gap in my circuit is important. dont use spark gap in series. caps must be parallel with
primary and a spark gap in parallel before LC combination. if u change spark gap position all u will be getting
induction power which is always under unity and we dont want that. so keep spark gap as shown in above
figure. veryyyyyyyyy important.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nightwind
On your 10KW home unit, how much energy does it need for input? Thanks

65 WATTS

EVERY OU U SEE ON UTUBE RELATED TO RESONANCE IS BASED ON DON CIRCUITS. TESLA DIDNT TELL ANYTHING ABOUT OVERUNITY OR ANY OVERUNITY CIRCUIT NOR TESLA HAS ANY PATENTS BASED ON RESONANCE OVERUNITY. TESLA GAVE US RESONANCE TO PONDER AND USE. THOUGH HE KNEW ABT OU. KAPANADZE USED DON BASED CIRCUITS. USING SOMETIMES FULL WAVELENGTH COILS AND SOMETIMES 1/4 WAVELENGTH COILS. SO KAPANADZE EVERY SETUP SEEMS DIFFERENT. BUT THE BASIS IS DON BASED. NONE ELSE DESCRIBED BETTER THAN DON. AND SCHEMATICS WERE HARD TO UNDERSTAND UNLESS U XPERIMENT AND USE MIND. WHEN U GET THE FEEL IT BECOMES CHILD PLAY TO HARVEST ENERGY FOR FREE.

RGDS

ZZZZ
Quote:
Originally Posted by nightwind
That is truly incredible. Are there any electrical loads that it does not do perform well with such as motors, resistive heating, etc ? Thanks

everything works fine. no probs at all. am off grid now its been months.

rgds
zzzz
here trafo is pulsed with dc timed by spark gap creating 50/60 hz resonance in trafo primary. match primary Inductance of trafo in nomograph with 50 or 60 hz matched with inductance draw line at two points and select the right cap where it crosses farad line.

the trafo can be 2000 volt to 110 or 120 volt ac or 480 to 120 or 110 v ac. depended on the output of L2 coil. can be managed by variac or a step down at L2 using right turns ratio.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LtBolo
So the coil on my desk here...with about 500 resonant volts in it from a 20 volt signal generator, ringing at 3.5Mhz, is producing 3,062,500,000,000,000,000 joules of free energy? Um...ok...

well energy of a resonant circuit
w=0.5.C. V(SQRD).HZ(SQRD)

SAY W1 IS UR PRIMARY COIL ENERGY WITH CAP
AND W2 IS UR SECONDARY COIL ENERGY WITH CAP

NET ENERGY GAINED FROM RESONANCE

W NET= W2-W1
AND THIS W NET IS TAPPED WITH THIRD COIL DEPENDS UPON NUMBER OF TURNS AND THICKNESS OF GAUGE.

rgds

zelina
Quote:
Originally Posted by nightwind
On your 10KW home unit, how much energy does it need for input? Thanks

65 WATTS

EVERY OU U SEE ON UTUBE RELATED TO RESONANCE IS BASED ON DON CIRCUITS. TESLA DIDNT TELL ANYTHING ABOUT OVERUNITY OR ANY OVERUNITY CIRCUIT NOR TESLA HAS ANY PATENTS BASED ON RESONANCE OVERUNITY. TESLA GAVE US RESONANCE TO PONDER AND USE. THOUGH HE KNEW ABT OU. KAPANADZE USED DON BASED CIRCUITS. USING SOMETIMES FULL WAVELENGTH COILS AND SOMETIMES 1/4 WAVELENGTH COILS. SO KAPANADZE EVERY SETUP SEEMS DIFFERENT. BUT THE BASIS IS DON BASED. NONE ELSE DESCRIBED BETTER THAN DON. AND SCHEMATICS WERE HARD TO UNDERSTAND UNLESS U XPERIMENT AND USE MIND. WHEN U GET THE FEEL IT BECOMES CHILD PLAY TO HARVEST ENERGY FOR FREE.

RGDS

ZZZZ
well a capacitor passes ac and we can control how much it passes to ground using a variable capacitor as a throttle. where as using varistor only half wave passes coz varistor contains a diode and capacitor so it maintains the voltage according to capacities of diode and caps that r fixed. not variable. the aim is to control voltage either variably or fixed.

rgds

zzz
well a capacitor passes ac and we can control how much it passes to ground using a variable capacitor as a throttle. where as using varistor only half wave passes coz varistor contains a diode and capacitor so it maintains the voltage according to capacities of diode and caps that r fixed. not variable. the aim is to control voltage either variably or fixed.

rgds

zzz
Film 18 - at 2.00 minutes
Quote:
Originally Posted by nightwind
Is your device portable? Does it have to be connected to earth ground?

well depends upon configuration if we use L/2 wavelength we dont need ground. but as we deal with hv so i use 2 varistors in parallel to play safe. if one fails other will work and not cause any malfunction. i use L/4 primary and L/4 AND L/4 (SPLIT COILS=L/2) and dont use earth. yes its portable i use ferrite trafo compact and small footprint. i have used on electric vehicle too.

rgds

zzzz
we can use standard spark gap with two electrodes preferably steel. and u can use any hv device be it car coil but i wont recommend that coz it has much higher current output say like 1 amp or 500 ma depends on make. or any flyback with diode built in (latest flybacks have diode built in) solid state nst dont have diodes built in so as 60 hz bigger giant type nst for them u have to string many in4007 diodes or better attached in series to make hv diode if hv diodes not available in ur place. sparkgap can be lightening aresstor also. or u can make coherer type spark gap with two steel pins pushed in a glass tube with a suitable gap. for low voltages even a neon can be used it has 30v jump voltage. but using neon at high voltage can melt electrodes if current rush too high. so u can use multi neons in series if that is desired.

4kv is sufficient hv voltage

regards

zzzz
this is the simplest and working circuit i have tested and found it works best. the basic is a coil resonates when its triggered with pulsing dc at its resonant frequency specified by coil and its self capacitance. as we dont know self capacitance of a coil unless we measure it with lcr meter. so a cap is used parallel to the coil. we know inductance and cap is an oscillating circuit. it oscillates transfering oscillations to secondary. here primary is an oscillator and secondary resonate sympathetically if a matching cap is used at secondary. the two coils now resonate. feeding each other with same resonant frequency and losses compensated with spark feeding energy so its resonant oscillator. resonance produce amplification and this xtra energy is pulsed again as we did it in the primary with diode and spark gap. the trafo is ferrite and the coil primary of trafo is matched with cap for 60 hz by matching capacitor so trafo primary oscillates at 50/60 hz. here spark triggers the trafo primary to make it oscillate at 60 hz. the output can be tapped at the output of secondary. here we just use overflow of resonant energy and dont use storage caps. this is simple theory and working device schematic. its a working circuit. one can use varistors to maintain desired voltage. varistors are available easily.

regards

zzz
well nobody follow don circuit. all people working on ou make tesla type oscillator circuit. where as Don just want us to use pulsed dc with spark gap to trigger a coil with parallel cap. so simple. and using lengths mesured before coiling can save one a lot of headache to match resonance even without using caps. but people dont see a coil can resonate AS A SINGLE ENTITY BUT EVERY COIL has parasitic or self capacitance between its turns IT ACTS AS CAPACITOR WORKING PARALLELY WITH COIL. parasitic capacitance can be increased with pvc coated wire or spacing turns apart. but no one follows this and blame don for cheating and lying and fake schematics etc etc. Kapandze followd don and all the world trust him. There is no info on net how to use resonance for ou except don documentation.

so how can kapanadze came up with ou. its becoz he followed Don. and did practical and found the basis and world wonders That kapanadze is ahead of even Tesla. sEARCH NET FOR TESLA OU DEVICE AND U WILL FIND NONE. NOT EVEN PATENTS AND NOT EVEN RARE BOOKS. coz tesla didnt disclose the secret he left us to find out and don did same but he gave schematics to follow. its for us to understand the puzzle that dON LEFT FOR US TO SOLVE.

ANYWAYS
I TRIED MY BEST TO IMPART MY BEST KNOWLEDGE AND PRACTICAL INFO

AND ONE WHO UNDERSTAND ME

WILL GET SURELY OU
AND FREE POWER
AS I GET

RGDS
ZELINA
Last
well in terms of sympathetic vibrations
SHORTED COILS PLAY THE SAME ROLE TO MAINTAIN AND AMPLIFY RESONANCE AND MANY SHORTED COILS CAN EVEN PROLONG REVERBERATION AND RESONANCE INFINITELY TO RUN SYSTEM WITH LOW AS 1 VOLT DC.- RESONANCE ENERGY METHODS
well 3 6 9 are basically frequencies that r involved in evolution of matter of the longitudinal waves. they r in hz low frequencies but being longitudinal they contain infinite energy. all our body and brain rely on these frequencies in resonance with that of the ambient or environment. tesla came to know this secret when he made the tower for power. combinations of 3 6 9 makes other harmonics craeting wealth of other frequencies as in a factorial expansion and combinations and permutations can be almost infinite providing frequencies which transform matter( matter is just atoms existing togather in a binding force creating objects or life forms) any combination using 3 6 9 can make u achieve the impossible. we r made up of 6 3 9 combination and we r energy and we never die except we transform from one energy to another and reborn again when energies combine. death is not the end of us we just trasnform into the elements we r made of ie earth air water and fire and sky thats is 5 elements that r actually energies at various frequencies.

longitudinal waves are the important factor to understand evolution of matter and things like transmutation of elements and birth and rebirth resonance and its effects. not much matter available but a difference of 3 can make a differnce eg. 3 coils generate resonance and useful power. 2 coils just induction 6 coils like hubbard coil generator.

hope u get my point. and yes caduceus and bifilar produce static feild or electricity which we utilize with spark to dyanmic electricity or hot electricity.

6- ccw static vector
9 -cw dynamic magnetic
vector can only be created with dynamic or magnetic
so 3 turns more than ccw here that is 9

here

regards

zzzz
Quote:
Originally Posted by cognito
Thanks MonsieurM,

A lot of interesting postings of figures that has the same principles using 3,6,9

But how to transfer this to a useful design (6=ccw, 9=cw and 3=caduceus)
Seeing 6 and 9 as opposites.
But 3 is what, could be 9 - 6 So only need 6 and 9 (ccw and cw) coils ?

Why is 3 a caduceus coil and Don Smith use only a 6 or 9 coil ?

"As above, so below" (6 and 9) 6 creates, 9 destroys ?

If Don uses the 6 and 9 parts on "Magnetic Resonant System", he use 6 on 9 to keep resonance and taps into the neutral center ?

Best regards

yes! we must have 3 as more magnetic in any combination 369. if 3 and 6 destroy magnetic we have 9 to support as 9-6=3 that 3 magnetic and 6 vector. and 3 vector inducing vector in 6-3=3 vector. so we have pure vector or static. static is strored in capacitor and spark makes it dynamic.

its complex but the aim to produce pure vector.

wirless electricity or dynamic choice is ours how to tap this vector or static to dynamic use immediately or send without wires.

follow tesla he used voltage that is static electicity with low amps amps make dynamic electricity. he charged cap in his radiant circuit and tapped power. here we make use of high voltage and high frequency to accumulate static charge to charge capacitor.

sr 193 video --- we have to charge capacitor see it again

rgds
zzzz

rgds
zzz
6
9
3
Quote:
Originally Posted by boguslaw
I have a few additional questions:
Length of L2 is 4 times L1 , and L1 is 1/4 wavelength of resonant frequency on primary ?
Do you have silent spark in primary spark gap ?
The first transformer has ferrite core too ?
I have also a slight fear about capacitor matching for 50Hz. What is output side is unloaded , doesn't it explode from overvoltage ? Where to place varistors then ?

Did you really manage to make it OU with just spark gap in primary ? no rotating interrupter ? I'm stunned ! Is that because of using custom made flyback driver ?
What is the relation of output frequency from flyback just after diode in primary part of this circuit to the resonant frequency of primary cap and coil (RCL circuit) ? Is that the same frequency or flyback is x times slower but harmonic of resonant frequency of RCL ?
Can you give a bit specific information about that kind of circuit to allow us to replicate it ? What are the voltage ratings for capacitors, voltage output from flyback in primary, whatever you can share with us , please ?

there r two spark gaps. one at primary and one before output trafo. the first earth is a direct earth the 2nd earth is in series with 220 volt varistor. we lower volt after 2nd spark gap b4 trafo. spark gaps r open and hot and r made with steel needles pushed in a glass tube with 1 mm gap. primary cap is in pf cos smaller the cap greater is repulsive power. primary cap is charged parallely across the primary coil and spark is used to trigger primary. nst frequency is 30khz but primary oscillating frequency is in mhz and its different from nst frequency. after secondary we use a diode to make pulsing hvdc required to trigger the ferrite trafo for 50 hz with spark gap in return wire. steps r same as done in primary to trigger oscillate the circuit. primary 1/4L and secondary is 4L. the varistor protects overvoltage and shunts to the earth. primary and secondary air core. nst 4kv. primary caps 8kv secondary caps 20kv.

regards
L1 is inside L2. so L2 is outer coil and L1 is inner coil. slidable
well is spark firing or not? if spark firing the figure i gave will oscillate primary with parallel cap across. then tune secondary with cap. u dont have to match frequency of ur nst with primary. primary will just oscillate at its own frequency.

rgds
zzzz
246/freq in mhz= length of primary(1/4 wavelength) in feet

then this length will oscillate at the frequency in mhz

secondary= 4x length of primary

we choose frequency ourselves and higher the better.
folks

from top to bottom

http://shop.vems.hu/falura.hu/pub/00...lectricity.pdf

spark hvdc to an inductor is the key.

rest u will understand after reading

a must for everyone

could not upload coz of uploading constraints here as i wud have to del all my attachments to make space.

so fend for urself and dl it

ANY INDUCTOR WHEN SPARKED CAN PRODUCE COLD ELECTRICITY WHEN TIMMING IS RIGHT DON DID THE SAME.

rgds

zzzz
http://shop.vems.hu/falura.hu/pub/00...lectricity.pdf

spark hvdc to an inductor is the key.
ANY INDUCTOR WHEN SPARKED CAN PRODUCE COLD ELECTRICITY WHEN TIMMING IS RIGHT DON DID THE SAME.

rgds
zzzz
Quote:
Originally Posted by deggers
I was thinking that maybe the antenna would help in an automotive system where you don't have a real ground. Creating a greater potential difference to help power flow better. Maybe I'm way off base here.

Thank you very much. Your input is always greatly appreciated.

moreover moray circuit produced cold electricity and bulbs lit were cool to touch unlike in dons circuit bulbs heat up and we get same electricity as we get from the grid. we have to use more caps to store energy after fwbr so we feed constant current to the inverting circuit. don used 4 caps.

sorry for not reading ur question fully.

if u use L/4 AND L/4 THAT IS TOTAL L/2 secondary u dont need an earth ground and final earth can be attached to the body of the vehicle at the output of transformer.
it works. but the output of trafo needs to be 3 terminal whose centre point is earthed at the output.

interesting circuit
Circuit idea from
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cognito
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bitlotbit
So the best way to go about getting the awg of the wire is actually create L1 or L2 and match the weight of the two wires using different awg. Don't we need at the same time to maintain the rule that L1 is 1/4 length of L2?

So if L2 is 12 awg, then 40 turns, diameter=3", turn space=10mm will need 367".8 which is 31.4 feet = 0.6206 pounds of copper according to : American Wire Gauge, AWG Cable Size Description for Copper Wire Cable

1/4 length of L2 is 31.4/4=7.85 feet

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We know that L1 is 5 turns with coil Dia=2" that comes to a length of 33",36850394 which is 2.7807 feet, which is different from the above of 7.85 feet calculation.
But if we need to much the weight of L1 (0.6206 pounds) to L2 for different awg then for 7.85 feet and 0.6206 pounds we need awg=6.

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Calculations:

wire length = 2*π*(Diameter/2)*Turns+(Turns*turn_space)
circle circumference =2πr

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Any commends?

Hi,

I have no precise formula (not yet ) to calculate coil configurations.
Induction receiving coils on MHz frequency should have large surface (skin effect).

What setup are you going for?
Type A:[CW,CCW] or
Type B:[6A reverse Tesla coil] ?

Your calculated value example Type A:
Say HV L1 input 2000V. 5 turns; L2 40 turns (each or total {CW,CCW}?)

2000V / 5 = 400V/turn transfer to L2. (40 * 400) = 16KV AC Vpp !!!
So 8KV DC after diode bridge and double frequency on capacitor bank.

Type A:
L1 1/4 length of L2.
So L2 is split {CW and CCW}. 2*1/2 lengths, total full wave.

Type B:
L1 1/4 length of L2.
L2 is full wave. (this coil maintains resonance on FULL WAVE ???)
6A is 1/4, 1/2, 1 length ??? (resonance maintained coil) Reverse Tesla Coil

Frequency depends on capacitor bank storage, to keep it full ???

Quote:
246/freq in mhz= length of primary(1/4 wavelength) in feet

then this length will oscillate at the frequency in mhz

secondary= 4x length of primary

we choose frequency ourselves and higher the better.

Best regards
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Originally Posted by boguslaw
Zilano

In flyback with builtin diode you cannot put spark gap before diode. Do I missed something from your schematic ?

well there r may ways. but rule of thumb is a spark gap is ac and a coil need a rippled dc to oscillate.

rgds
zzzz
@ drak

the setup u had with which u lighted halogen bulbs with ferrite need one more primary coil. so wind another primary coil over ur former primary and just connect capacitor across to maintain resonance between 2 primaries. so resonance will not be disturbed. then use the cw+ccw coil(with resonance maintained) that u used to light the bulbs. and take power in and power out measurements. u will get overunity.

so ur setup will be 2 primaries and one cw+ccw combination to tap power. dont join primaries. keep the 2nd primary with cap earthed.

FOR EVERYBODY AND ALSO FOR U
Hi,
Shouldn't that diode after the spark gap be a capacitor?

a capacitor not needed in primary but at 2nd primary we need to match resonance with first primary. the diode feeds pulsed dc which triggers the primary coil into self oscillation with its parasitic capacitance. u can check it with ferrite inside and using a magnetic compass to see oscillations.

rgds
zzzz
Are the 2 primaries wound exactly the same? How do you match resonance?

the first primary will oscillate according to its length and parasitic capacity. for second primary we have to match resonance with first primary with cap. the output coils also have to be in resonance with the second primary. so all 3 coils r in resonance. we tap output from 3rd coils which is cw and ccw. to match resonance of the this cw+ccw coil we have to attach cap between two legs of this coil. when resonance maintained we can draw output as overunity.

rgds
zzzz
PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon
Below is a scope shot....

That is exciter in action on coil!
Do you get cold electricity after that? You should..
1 feet tube 16awg wire nst 4kv 12 v diodes in series in 4007 (5 diodes) 50 turns

rgds
zzzz
Avramenko Plug Using Nst And Flyback
http://magnetism.vfedtec.com/Theory.htm
Sorry for all the questions.
What is the tube diameter? The connection from the diode goes to the coil and attaches to the copper tube?
TIA

1 inch diameter tube.yes one wire to coil after diode and one attaches to copper tube. its an open system. if u input 1 watt u may get 25- 50 watts out.

rgds
basically resonance is produced when atoms vibrate. there r many ways to achieve atoms resonance. either by static field or magnetic field. open system use electrostatic field. we can convert electrostatic to electromagnetic with spark gap. its just manipulation of fileds. vibrations of atoms is called NMR NUCLEAR MAGNETIC RESONANCE. COPPER AND FERRITE ARE MOSTLY USED.

CADUCEUS COIL CAN BE RESONATED AT MULTIPLE RESONANT FREQUENCIES DOES NOT DEPEPND UPON A FIX FREQUENCY. BIFILARS CAN BE SUBSTITUTED FOR CADUCEUS. COLD ENERGY IS EVERYWHERE AROUND US BUT TO TAP THAT WE NEED SPECIAL IONIC TUBE. WE DONT FIND IONIC TUBE SO WE MAKE COLD ELECTRICITY FIRST AND MAKE IT DYNAMIC.

RGDS
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Bulb lights!

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Thanks again for latest drawings

My bulb is alive and more will come I think?

Kind rgds D
no its not vaccum its gas discharge tube. its not necessary to use gas discharge tube or lightening arrestor. one can use even two screws of steel spaced apart. but a proper gap of 1mm or 2 mm must be maintained.

rgds
zzzz
Originally Posted by Gedfire
Hello Zilano,

I have seen where you have said that driving frequency can be different from the tank frequency.

Are there any rules to follow when selecting the driver frequency versus the tank frequency?

Is it best to have them both at the same frequency?

Thanks

well yes one can use same frequency of nst to oscillate coil with nst frequency then u need just two coils with resonance maintained nst and primary. the second coil is harvest coil.

but if u use trigger oscillate primary coil then u need 3 coils and frequency of primary is different from nst frequency. we have to then maintain resonance with primary and secondary and 3rd harvest coil so all three r in resonance. when u use diode after spark gap u r just triggering coil to oscillate at its resonant frequency that depends upon its length and the capacitor attached across it(external cap+parasitic capacitor)

paracitic capacitor= every coils with turns spaced apart acts as capacitor and is termed as parasitic capacitance of coil. we can even oscillate simple coil also coz it has parasitic capacitance between its turns. parasitic capacitance can be inreased by spacing turns apart.

one can also use Lc combination as used by tesla in tesla coils. where as Don uses trigger method. i prefer trigger method coz it makes me resonate coil in mhz range where as nst freuqency is in khz range.

higher the frequency preferably in mhz larger harvest is obtained.

rgds

zzzz
the pump

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every one of us in childhood drove a bicycle with inflated tubes under a tyre. and in olden days there was a bicycle pump to fill air to inflate tube so tyre remains in shape and able to carry load. there is a one way valve in the tube and also in the pump. if one used a pump faster and overfilled the tube the tube bursts and the very air that was in the tube gets mixed with the air in atmosphere. and remains an entity and can be used again to fill tubes with the help of pump.

in dons circuit the primary is pump one way valve to pump secondary. the valve exists not in primary but in secondary(bifilar or caduceus) which stores energy as standing wave and not bemf to primary. the resulting bemf gets stored in secondary and its surrounding air. since primary is pumping constantly the energy becomes radiant and stay within secondary and air surrounding it. the third coil taps that bemf accumulated and is stored in caps coz its radiant energy and cannot be used directly has to be rectified and stored. and pulsed with spark gap or igbt to normal or ferrite transformer for usable power.

bifilar acts like valve. one way valve. and 3rd coil acts as receptor of bemf or ambient. the ambient energy has the capability to xcite more electrons and is termed as radiant energy.

the production by pumping is faster than real load consumage coz its at low frequency and low voltage.

if we use primary as bifilar and secondary again a bifilar and 3rd coil as a regular coil then we r purely using ambient or rather accumulated bemf.

bemf xcites copper atoms and electrons r xcited to travel forming amps.

since resonance is maintained the input dimnishes compared to output and can be fed back.

don never used a feedback coz the ambient being rf charges battery thru connecting wires.

remember a pump is a must to fill reservoir so we can use it later according to our need called load.

rgds

zzzz
zilano
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boguslaw
I fully agree! Dig it ! It is essential to make DISRUPTIVE DISCHARGE not just put spark gap and expect primary working with resonance. We need NATURAL RESONANCE and i don't know why Zelina is not putting BIG ATTENTION to this fact ! All electronic resonance is forced one. Compare it with Tesla method of transformation.

well i never said not to use spark gap. spark is necessary. if u go don way then hv supply is sufficient to spark discharge without a cap and its not a feedback circuit. don never used feedback. in don case we have to use a battery based or 120 volt ac based nst. the battery based is better coz the rf charges battery and we r saved from a circuit to charge battery.

where as in kapanadze case people feel amazed when he starts the engine with a 9 volt battery. kapanadze used a different technique that is based on avramenko plug that charges cap with hv and hf ac and the cap is hv but have a pf value range and he used a series spark gap not like parallel as wesley alias stivep at ou.com used. kapanadze used cold electricity. He used tesla tower in the last video. where primary is bifilar and secondary is also bifilar and 3rd coil is caduceus( which is independent coil to amplify the centre wire that goes through the caduceus winding. caduceus is self induction coil but amplifies the secondary coil output. only cold electricity can be amplified. kapanadze use copper tube and caduceus surrounds copper tube through which the secondary bifilar wire goes. this is tesla tower. but if u see the pics. He inverted the tesla base system. the wire first goes not up but down and comes over primary and goes into the caduceus coil tube and exists. tesla tower has one earth. people dont see pics that stivep shooted.

the copper also acts as high output coil conduit so a not so much thick wire can carry large amps. read tesla tower patent and u will see the use of splitted copper tube and one earth and iron cored or ferrite cored wound primary and secondary. the patent states one can use that.

copper conduit plays a major rle in enhancing output.but it must be splitted length wise else eddy losses r there. every core has a gap. so here copper conduit or rather copper tube has a lengthwise slit.

and yes there was a spark gap hidden in kapanadze last 200 watt video and he used furnance ignition circuit for spark generation. spark is always must for ou with coils and cold electricity.

rgdz
zzzz

folks dont get swayed by thermionic tubes and power transistors. don and kapanadze used spark. and they know why even in these modern times where u can use igbt.

the high power electronics is just waste of electricity. and there is no one who produced more power using igbts without the input loaded.

have clear mind. the tubes r not gonna help. spark will help u only.

rgdz
zzzz
zilano
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Posts: 108

Quote:
Originally Posted by frankidel
Hi Zilano, for the spark gap, if i put it in a tube with air out, or vaccumed, will it help the process, i remember that tesla tested a copper tube with air removed and it was quite good output.

no it wont work. spark works coz electrons r xcited between the gap. if no air then it wont work. be practical did u see any tesla coil makers using vaccum? or kapanadze using vaccum? surely not.

airgap with gas or air= two points apart or lightening arrestor or gas discharge tube. some medium like air or gas has to be there for spark to work.

rgds

zzzz
Hi there!
u said dc pulsed. its true every dc half wave or full wave rectified ac is always pulsating called ripple. here we have rf ripple but it can be smoothed by using pi filter and an extra rf coil so we get smooth dc. most adaptors we use in daily life converts 110 v ac to 12 v or 5 v dc. they overcome the ripple effect by making dc and generating ac square wave and then again rectified to get pure dc. square waves dont have much ripple and its straight line dc. we can use that here also. and measurements can be done easily using shunts for DC amps.AND VOLTAGE too. measurement is not a problem with filtered dc how high voltage it can be.

please go thru web and read measuring HVDC AND HVAC and u will know how its done.

we are just interested in ac sinewave output. but we can measure dc amps and volts and add rms factor and we get ac measurements. its simple.

all ya need is calculation. kapanadze did not have shielded 20k \$ + equipment but he still did it.

when funds r low and u have a drive to go! innovations happen. necessity is the mother of invention u see!

bypass solutions are always there. just we have to think harder to get wot we want.

am not saying i have all knowledge of everything. i did and learned. so will all the people.

regards

zilano zeis zane!

(14 yrs old !
with spell mistakes
caps words
a bot
etc etc)

i dont care wot people say bout me.
i have it and i dont need any help
i came here to make others learn who are as novice as i had been
will keep posting!
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This apparatus has zero impedance - unlike an ordinary coil. when fed electrical energy the wire in the Tensor coil does not get hot.

Secondly. It has infinite resonance - unlike an ordinary coil which will resonate chiefly at its natural fundamental frequency and weakly on the second or third harmonic, the Tensor coil is capable of resonating strongly on any number of frequencies randomly spaced in the spectrum.

thats why it is generally used as output coil. when resonance happens subharmonics r generated aswell and caduceus taps them all. and stays cold and can handle heavy amperage or load. kapanadze secret
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http://tubevube.com/m/u/u/2820531/don-smith-free-energy.html
check 51.50 minute
Originally Posted by Gedfire
Hi,

I would like some clarification on resonance calculations.Turns out (as has been said upteen times) that my coil also has capacitance.Now in calculating resonance of Zilano suggested adding coils capacitance to get desired frequency.My meter is showing that my cap has inductance too! So do I add in my resonance calculations?

Ged

the best way is to omit the coil capacitance and just use length make one coil 1/4L and another 4L one can tune by just sliding the inner primary within secondary to get resonating. morover when lengths r proper the parasitic capacitance differ just by 1/10 to 1/100 so u have a choice either to use a capacitor or dont use capacitor and adjust tunning by sliding coil.

the coil will still oscillate with caps or without caps and can be tuned by sliding primary within secondary.

even if u use caps on both primary and secondary coils can be still tuned by sliding.

rgdz
zzzz
Resonance Tuning Coils
Also. If gap is in front of cap/coil combo then cap/coil combo get hit with hi-potential compression wave.

Gap is behind cap/coil combo then cap/coil feels hi-potential decompression wave.

Does it matter? Explosive? Implosive?

there r two methods to oscillate coil

1. make avramenko and series spark with diode also after sparkgap to coil. here we r doing explosive triggering which has current with voltage.

2. the don way without avramenko. here diodes feed dc(pulsating) and the coil is sparked thru earth. here low current and high voltage used to trigger coil.

important: spark gap is always ac whether u use diodes b4 it. so another diode is used after spark to pulse coil. TO OSCILLATE COIL WE NEED PULSED DC.

SEE SR 193 VIDEO I HAVE POSTED IT B4 FOR EVERYONE BUT NOBODY SEEM TO UNDERSTAND IT. HE USED A CHARGE CAPACITOR AND USED A DIODE IN SERIES WITH COIL AND SHORTED CAPACITOR ACROSS THE TWO LEADS OF COIL. THE COILS STARTS OSCILLATING.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guruji
Thanks Zilano for those JT pics.
If I try that on a smaller toroid will it work?
Those 20 turn are normal JT circuit with one of bifilar coil to variable cap yes?
Those 750 turns are the secondary?
That Magnet what for?
Yes resonance is mentoned by many inventors but one has to have certain knowledge on these devices to resolve this to OU. Even in HHO cells Stanley mentions alot resonance of tubes but it's not that simple to do it.
Thanks for sharing.

yes it will. yes 20 turns bifilar primary is cloned with cap. so we have 2 bifilars one connected to transistor and another to cap across 2 ends and we dont use middle joint in sympathetic cloned bifilar. well u can use 50 turns cw and 50 turns ccw instead of 750 turns and check results and u can wind more if needed by soldering ends and taping solder joint with more wire if ur harvest is less. laser saber used 12 bulbs. u can use 2 bulbs to see results.

warning :warning: if u r using 750 winds then the output is high voltage with amps can shock u so be careful and handle with care. dont touch the two output wires of 750 wind. can even kill u.

but in metglas the results much better coz of its high magnetostriction property.

well we all basically use oscillators and joule thief( or jt) is a blocking oscillator with feedback.

when we use two oscillators and which r in phase then we have resonance.

its not necessary to use two oscillators coz resonance has a property of inducing same oscillations when lengths r related to the respective wavelengths.

so practically we need one oscillator with coil and 2nd resonant coil which is related to first coil in terms of wavelength. we can either use full wavelength or half wave length or 1/4 wavelength combinations. oscillator will produce oscillations in first coil and second coil vibrates sympathetically. when we have resonance working. we have more output than input coz of magnification. and this magnification is tapped by 3rd coil i call it as harvest coil.

laser saber had one oscillator and one harvest coil and the 2nd coil is missing so he is draining battery. else he used 2nd coil he wud be happy running lights all the year long like an endless song.

if one uses length of primary(either cw or ccw length) as battery connexions then the battery will remain charged forever.

magnet acts as a blocker coz the toroid has no gap. gap is necessary in all ferrite trafos separated so we can oscillate em on higher hf range without breaking the toroid core.

in laser saber arrangement all windings r bifilar stretched like in dons circuit. dont use two wire bifilar wire. wind one cw and another ccw. see the pic where i mentioned cw and ccw wind in that fashion. below is pic
copper resonance!

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people are so pressurised that they dont understand the meaning of resonance.

we see electricity as a core based thing. ferrite comes to mind always or a core of iron which has been treated with heat and cooled slowely to make electromagnet strips to combine to form a core.

a trafo is based on induction and it cant be oscillated beyond khz range but a copper coil can be.

air cored is utilized thats why.

with ferrite core resonance there are dangers of breaking core into pieces.

overunity can be reached with ferrite but its not much.

resonance in regard to overunity involves copper and aircore. when u have generated enuff then use ferrite or iron cored to see accumulated power.

in regard to laser saber the metglas produces irritating noice!

choice is urz aircore or ferrite. people want instant results so they go for ferrite.

in aircore we r dealing with copper resonance!

rgds

zzzz
if ur voltage is 5kv then use 5 in4007 in series

use diode in4007 ten(10) in series to make a hv diode. the diode ratings should be 1kv reverse voltage and dc blocking voltage

IN4007 pdf, IN4007 description, IN4007 datasheets, IN4007 view ::: ALLDATASHEET :::

slide the whole string in plastic tube.

then use it

rgds
zzzz
http://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/testing-semiconductors.php
interesting
http://www.elnamagnetics.com/archives/category/distribution
food for thought

the electron flow in copper is due to free electrons that r travelling in random fashion at room temperature. when an electric field is applied by a battery they start flowing out of copper forming a circuit. the electric field pushes them.

same thing happens when we rotate a coil between dissimilar poles that is NS. WE know that magnetic lines of force travel from north pole to south pole continuously. when they r obstructed by the coil coz copper is not a good magnetic conductor the field force electrons of copper similarly like the electric field does.

so electric field and magnetic field r related and can be used to xcite copper electrons to constitute and generate current.

the high voltage and high frequency alters magnetic and electric fields very fast and oscillations r maintained continuously.

electric field is static in nature but acts as dynamic when high frequency is used.

rgds

zzzz

Hi,
in fact electrons do not like to travel. They are lazy: 0,07mm/s. You never got any electron you bought from your power supplier. Tom Bearden explains this very clearly. I will explain my notion:
- At switch on time the wave will travel with speed of light along the conductor. (see fogal transistor)
- The real energy in movement is times 10e24 of that power we will measure later on - but not now. This is scalar energy - no vector, no forth. This signal does not suffer from attenuation with distance.
- The lazy electrons are being energized (like litlle motor boats -yes they are not pushed but they drive tehmselves) and crawl out of their cozy hiding place 10e-19 seconds (copper value) after the scalar tsunami. The real speed is about 0,07mm/s
- John Bedini explains that the electrons in a capacitor are energized by this very event (SSG). So he gets charge without much current.
- If we were able to sitch off at this very time - we got OU every time.
- The energized electrons power our load but this is a very minute and dirty side effect. It's like drinking the last drops out of every bottle only.

Earlier formulas knew this all but because i.e. Mr. Lenz's (there were two of them) could not measure this trimendous energy they discarded this part of the formulas as mathematical side effect. Our formulas are corrupted since 130 years.

OU engineers this lost kowledge back searching for conditions where the electric tsunami is kindly inclined to interact with matter as force / vector. Z - you explained this very fact in countless posts. Thanks

Corrections welcome.
Regards
John
there r two methods to oscillate coil

1. make avramenko and series spark with diode also after sparkgap to coil. here we r doing explosive triggering which has current with voltage.

2. the don way without avramenko. here diodes feed dc(pulsating) and the coil is sparked thru earth. here low current and high voltage used to trigger coil.

important: spark gap is always ac whether u use diodes b4 it. so another diode is used after spark to pulse coil. TO OSCILLATE COIL WE NEED PULSED DC.

SEE SR 193 VIDEO I HAVE POSTED IT B4 FOR EVERYONE BUT NOBODY SEEM TO UNDERSTAND IT. HE USED A CHARGE CAPACITOR AND USED A DIODE IN SERIES WITH COIL AND SHORTED CAPACITOR ACROSS THE TWO LEADS OF COIL. THE COILS STARTS OSCILLATING.
the best way is to omit the coil capacitance and just use length make one coil 1/4L and another 4L one can tune by just sliding the inner primary within secondary to get resonating. morover when lengths r proper the parasitic capacitance differ just by 1/10 to 1/100 so u have a choice either to use a capacitor or dont use capacitor and adjust tunning by sliding coil.

the coil will still oscillate with caps or without caps and can be tuned by sliding primary within secondary.

even if u use caps on both primary and secondary coils can be still tuned by sliding.

rgdz
zzz
copper resonance!

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people are so pressurised that they dont understand the meaning of resonance.

we see electricity as a core based thing. ferrite comes to mind always or a core of iron which has been treated with heat and cooled slowely to make electromagnet strips to combine to form a core.

a trafo is based on induction and it cant be oscillated beyond khz range but a copper coil can be.

air cored is utilized thats why.

with ferrite core resonance there are dangers of breaking core into pieces.

overunity can be reached with ferrite but its not much.

resonance in regard to overunity involves copper and aircore. when u have generated enuff then use ferrite or iron cored to see accumulated power.

in regard to laser saber the metglas produces irritating noice!

choice is urz aircore or ferrite. people want instant results so they go for ferrite.

in aircore we r dealing with copper resonance!

rgds

zz
Originally Posted by jharmon
Thanks Z. Ok I'll think about these and try them after I fix my grounding problem.

I think the only answer is to get a new DC-AC inverter and bury a lead from the ground terminal in a bucket of dirt. That's my experiment for tomorrow. :-)

If I try the Avramenko solution, I'm guessing that the size of that first cap affects the frequency that the gap fires. Any recommendation for a value? Does it matter?

You aren't showing a parallel gap solution, yet that is in all the original Don diagrams?!?

I feel my goals are...

1. get coil to ring.
2. get some disruptive discharge to generate scalar component of waves.

avramenko is hv dc battery. the cap acts as battery. it wont affect frequency of the coil with cap across the coil. yes a diode is necessary after spark gap in avramenko setup.

rgds

zzz
u can use parallel spark gap in avramenko type setup. in dons circuit parallel spark gap is used when the coil is tuned to the frequency of the neon sign transformer.

the sr type or avramenko is based on disruptive discharge which transfers all the enenrgy in the charged cap to the coil+cap combination. it causes split second burst of energy quickly fed to the coil. which enhances performance.

where as in don type the spark gap acts passive just transfers the pulsed dc to oscillate coil.

bifilar or caduceus is the way to make strong electromagnets without back emf.

don xcited the middle of magnet where there is no field effect of magnet and this is the point where we apply the oscillating magnet to make and break flow of magnetic lines of force so power is generated in the secondary coil. and it oscillates. the third coil taps this energy and stored either in caps or rectified and voltage divided and pulsed thru ferrite cored trafo with the help of invertor circuit to get 60 /50 hz.

regards

zzzz
and 54.44 minute
this paragraph contains important info that all people r looking for ou.

the simplicity lies in two caps across coil so that one is in series with coil and the other in parallel. the cap that is paralllel must be of high capacity and the one in series must be low capacity that it passes hf of the coil to the cap in parallel. the coil is simple coil and ferrite can be used as well as air core. the above combination forms an open circuit. this is basic primary coil. for secondary u can use simple coil also. the primary coil with two cap combination is pulsed with hv dc. one can use avramenko for low input or a direct nst can be used. but the pulse must be hvdc. one can use mov 120 volt or 230 volt or 250 volt as the secondary coil output is hvac and have to be lowered in voltage, rectified and pulsed either using vibrator type combination or igbt.

regards

zzzz
well try a 3 volt dc motor and connect it to a n led and attach a fan to it. now rotate the fan slowely the led will light but not bright. rotate fan faster and it will glow bright. this is basic generator and rpm stuff.

resonance is like a constant and higher rpm method with added advantage that it uses less energy to run coz energy moves back and forth between two coils and constructive interference produces multiplied energy.

frequency is just an rpm here. more the rpm more power.

yes lengths do matter else tesla never mentioned the 1/4 wavelength

moreover the energy increases so much that power is converted into rf which u cant do without resonance or a feedback circuit. electrons r xcited so much they become free from confines of the wire and escape in environment as radio waves or scalar waves. since power is in rf we dont see it not until we recept it and convert it to dc power and invertor it to useful ac.

we only see powers like 50 or 60 hz 120v or 110 v or 220v or 230v or 115v. low rpm low voltage. so we have to convert rf to useful domestic ac.

rgds
zzzz
http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/nt_on_ac.htm#041
yes globe is just resonator and the coil acts as harvest coil. yes there is fwbr whcih charges caps and then these caps further either sparked or half wave dioded to the trafo(ferrite cored)

rgds
zzzz
The dimension of the cooper tube what you gave us are critical? I have some 15 mm and 35 mm diameter cooper tubes ;I don't have 1 inch diameter cooper pipe...if will work with the same number of windings what you mentioned ( 50 winds) I will give it a try to this experiment....

u can experiment with any dimention tube. and turns of coil.

zzz
i stated core message and he said that resonance is not the thingy. i never said that. i always said resonance is the key only.

rgds.

every overunity device either use leverage effect or resonance effect or backemf tapping with resonance. no device can produce overunity without resonance.
the basis of overunity is based on mechanical generator and follows its principle. the more fast u cut lines of force between north and south pole which can either be done by rotating a coil betweeen magnets or can be done by resonance. a flux cutting by coil is done with alternating magnetic fields or static fields. its like rpm of the coil. the more rpm the more power u get. resonance is like rpm of coil. if u understand basic generator and rpm stuff and apply it with resonance u will have overunity.

zzzz
Patrick J Kelly Chapter 5
http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt5.html
Originally Posted by jharmon
Nice design.
1. But what freq?

2. DC Step up from 4.5V to 350V?

3. I don't quite understand where the HV pulse comes from and where it goes.

Will study. Tips welcome!

LESS IS MORE MORE OR LESS!

YES 4.5V TO TWO OUTPUTS CAN BE OF SAME FREQUENCY IN 30-70 KHZ OR MGHZ RANGE. U CAN USE SIGNAL GENERATOR FOR FREQUENCY TO OSCILLATE FLYBACK. ONE COIL IS 350 VOLT AND FWBRD TO GIVE 350V DC AND OTHER IS 2KV-4KV AC HF HV UNRECTIFIED.

RGDS

ZZZZ
Originally Posted by nightwind
@Zilano

Am I reading this correctly? Mixing 350 VDC w/ 2KVAC ? If yes, how are you mixing the different voltages on the L1 coil. Are there two separate L1 windings?

2KV - Your red arrow. Is this the 2KV (plus +) connection point?

I agree with jharmon, don't leave so soon. There is plenty of room for you

Thanks

If this works, Mr Kelly will want to put this in his book too.

yes hv( its ac not dc) 2k goes to diode.

here we r not mixing actually. the 350v dc acts as standby for xenon/ lightening arrestor( for ionization in case of xenon) and the two diodes acts as a blocking agent until the hf+hv of 2k gets injected and the xenon or lightening arrestor gets sparked and the circuit LC CLOSES. the oscillations start.

u can use two different flybacks(ac) one giving 350 vdc
other giving 2k-4k ac
the flybacks must be without diodes the better. coz we need pure 350 v dc and can be had after fwbr.

all diodes are hv(4kv range)

this system is based on capacitor charged and discharged through coil. resonating at hf.

rgds

zzzz
http://www.archive.org/details/inventionsresear00martiala
spark hvdc to an inductor is the key.
ANY INDUCTOR WHEN SPARKED CAN PRODUCE COLD ELECTRICITY WHEN TIMMING IS RIGHT DON DID THE SAME.

rgds
zzzz
http://www.hvlabs.com/files/teslaexperiments.pdf
http://www.wolfram-stanek.de/maxwell/maxwell_hand.htm
Tuning
http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt5.html
Hi all,
studying a bunch of very differnt schematics I am often confused by the method of the spark generation - mostly not explained. There is a big range out there from brute force energy waste to very smooth high frequency sparks. Sad to see a lot of vids with unfortunate spark generation. I vote the spark type to be essential and therefore I'd like to share my first notions. Please consult the attachment:

Tests were performed with a simple L1 coil (100mm air core / 55 turns).
Direct self triggerd sparks (schematics A1-A5)
These are self triggering sparks generated directly from the half or full wave rectified signal.
Mains frequency (sine / schematic A1-A3):
These sparks do not like to occure regularly. Especially if the output is sine from mains (A1-A3). The best behavior was when the voltage was reduced to minimum while the sparks still trigger. As the spark ends at zero crossing the duration is quite long and surprisingly the L1 coil does not oscillate. It oscillates if sparks are of short duration only. At longer timed sparks there is one cycle only and no L1 oscillation. Tesla coilers state that this is because the energy is being reflected back and at just that time the spark stops.
At fw rectifier and brute force spark sometimes the spark burns continuously like a welder. This is because the short time of zero crossing is too short in order the plasma to discharge. Such a spark does make no sense apart from fun for pyrotechnic hobbyists.

Medium frequency NST (ca. 40 KHz/ schematic A4,A5)
I had no NST of this type available but tested different CCFL PSU. The behavior is better but still no regular triggering.

Spark from preloaded capacitor (schematic B1)
- Small capacitor added at previous schematics. Before this action the sparks started with a tired glow discharge and there is no pep in it. With added (small) capacitor it discharges instantly and without that glow before and this is what we expect it to do.
Needless to mention that not every coiled capacitor is able to dischasrge abruptly - but this is essential. (low ESR required)
- At A type schematics above the output from the HV PSU was unloaded (high impedance) before every spark and I assume that the high impedance causes undefined voltage spikes and this causes very unregular sparks. The capacitor C is now a defined load and any spike will be absorbed by the capacitor prior the trigger time.
- The capacitor needs to be tuned thoroughly. Too small values do not overcome the glow discharge while too big capacitors do not charge fast enough. If they discharge - there is often this "one cycle behavior" referred above. It is suffitient if the capacitor charges during one single pulse up to the spark event.
- I got nice oscilaltions with 100pF and 2 KV. At Mains frequency the repetition is too rarely. With 40 KHz the next pulse occures before the oscillation stopped. I got similar oscillation like Blue_Serge some posts ago.

Sparks triggerd externaly (schematics C1,2)
I admit that I did test this yet with mains only.
The basic idea is to have a smooth DC HV voltage and trigger the spark (usually a flash tube) at predefined time.
- If the HV source is of low (like foto flash light) power the flash discharges the capacitor, stops and the sequence can start after recharge and trigger again.
- If the HV source is of suffitient power the spark (flash tube) does not stop and we have a welder. (see above). In this case a series resistor or coil is inserted and a second capacitor (C2) to GND (see schematic C1). The capacitor C2 determines the flash energy and the Resistor (coil) prevents a too high current in order the spark can stop.
- Please regard the C2 schematic - Zilano style. This is waht I will test next in order to unterstand it's behavior. This is a mix between B1 and C1. The inductance replaces the resistor from C1.

Spark triggered by resonance (D)
This is still a secret to me. (therefore no schematic). The basic idea is that at every single oscillation amplitude a corresponding spark adds additional energy (increasing oscillations). These sparks need to be tuned well and brute force is a no go.
No idea how some sparks of mains frequency can do this requested behavior. Same at 40 KHz like blue serge. Maybe I'm wrong.
Aniway - from the Utkin paper I learned that there are some different "mechnics" producing OU and the OU behavior can be introduced at different points in the schematic - and they can be combined as well. I urge you to study Utkin and diskuss & share. I feel it to be essential to discern the different "mechanics" and address them clearly in the schematics.

Further studies planned
- Zilano style spark (see C2)
- Manufactoring of some coils (somehow standardized similar to LEGOkit - cw,ccw, bifilar ...) proposed by Zilano and Utkin and study and test of their behavior and interaction.
rgds John
@T-1000
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll work towards getting a ringing up wave pattern.
If you are asking what the input power and out power on my system, the system input is 240W and output I don't yet. I use for now a 100W bulb to see if there is work being done.

use this in ur current version if u dont intend to use third coil. short/shunt the ccw coil in secondary.
remember spark is ac and we need hv dc to trigger coil+cap. in sr we use 3rd diode to provide hvdc. in don we provide hv dc to coil+cap so we dont use 3rd diode in don case.

a coil is triggered into self oscillation when a pulse of hv dc is fed instantaneously and only a spark can do that. the hv dc thus injected make it oscillate. even a coil without cap can be oscillated coz it has parasitic capacitor between its turns. so actually a simple coil is an lc circuit. parasitic capacitance can be increased by winding turns apart and normally the pvc insulation does that. in don case the coils r naked so we have to wind them spaced apart. resonance can be achieved in don case by sliding primary within secondary with secondary middle point earthed.
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thanks for the info. wot i mean to make people understand here. separate means use cap. it also does same thing. wot u did.

hint:
1.cold electricity is not affected by load.
2. wot makes cold electricity?

one more thing kapanadze uses caduceus as secondary coil and primary is just simple coil. tesla basics. he uses it as harvest coil(caduceus) and the wounding of coil is not done like smith(of caduceus fame like the way ur team has done) but the way i posted in one of my posts. with 25kv ur gonna have mega watts of power.

but ur team has done a great work keep it up. dont take my words as dimnishing ur spirits but am giving u hint to get megawatts from 25kv.
hot means magnetic field. cold means no magnetic field. hot and cold mixed make oscillations and when harvesting cold separates hot always. we cannot tap energy without loading unless we separate cold with hot. cold can create hot and hot can create cold. if output is hot we use cold to tap it and when output is cold we use hot to make electricity not cold electricity but normal electricity.

rgds
zzzz
Originally Posted by zilano
simple coils cw only. i didnt use ccw. the idea is to isolate hot(coil) with cold(cap). breaking continuity. in my circuit parallel cap across coil is oscillator and 2nd coil is attached to first coil but isolated with another cap( breaking continuity) two coils resonate and their output is harvested with harvest coil.

rgds
zzzz
great work. try to use reverse polarity of diodes. you need third coil to harvest output. maintain resonance. try to use avramenko type input. that i have posted. resonance when maintained can be harvested by third coil( can be simple or bifilar) experiment and learn.

hints!

a capacitor is cold coz it has no magnetic field. a coil is hot coz it has magnetic field. to have overunity we need to have a break between cold and hot either in primary or in secondary. that means we need a serial cap also.

rgds
zzzz
1727
well first keep learning the basics from the posts here. when u understand the circuits and the basis of ou then jump the bandwagon. one need to understand a lot before jumping else failures greet a lot. coz there r many ways to achieve ou. but basic is we must not join cold with hot without a break. and break is cap.

like sound resonance when it happens we need an ear to harvest the amplified sound to hear the output (ear is like third coil). so the resonance is not disturbed and its amplified output is harvested without loading the resonance apparatus.

rgds
zzz
later circuit
RESONANCE HAPPENING IN L1 AND L2 and is harvested by harvest coil.
1708
Tuning Video
http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/imped.htm
either u use serial spark gap or parallel spark gap the aim is to short lc circuit so when spark is off it oscillates. oscillation need to happen. do it either way. even if we short avramenko it doesnt have any effect on the input. avramenko is cold electricity.
Better translation ?

Accessories and materials part 1
A) the High-voltage power supply 3000V 100 - 200 watts.
It is possible to apply transformers to neon lamps, or any similar radio amateur designs with high EFFICIENCY of transformation and stabilization of a target current.
Possible version of execution of converter TVS
2) High-frequency resonant system L1/L2
Coil L1 is wound by a high-quality audio cable sechenirem 6.10 mm2, or make-it-yourself litz by appropriate sections. Rough length with conclusions received litz (audio cable) - roughly two meters.
Winding is made on kanlizatsionnoy to a pipe £ 50mm, quantity of coils 4-5 (left coiling).
The remained conclusions of the coil not brezaem, and it is deduced through the middle of a pipe for connection to an arrester and condensers of a contour of the primary.
Possible version of execution:
Secondary coil L2 of a resonant contour is carried out naked copper (it is desirable silvered, is worse tinned) by a wire in diameter of 2-3 mm. Diameter of winding secondary coil-nearby 75mm. The coil is carried out with tap from the middle. Both half have one direction of winding (clockwise, ie right).
Rough number of coils, coil 2x16, 2h18 coils. The coil is mandatory for executing an air version with fastenings in apertures 3-4 locating brackets.
Fastening kotuschek should not suppose a drain vyokochastotnyh high-voltage charges on any other parts of the diagram and a design. Deduce coils are clamped in Enclosures placed on the assembly panel for earthly connections of other elements of the diagram. A parity of lengths of wires of coils.
Possible version of execution vtorinoy coils:
High-voltage diodes (columns)
It is possible to apply purchased, or to make independently.
Diodes of each shoulder should have face value on a current not less than 10 amperes at a return pressure 25-30 kilo-volts
Probably parallel connection of several columns for maintenance of a required current.
Version of the high-voltage diode:
Planimetric condensers (for coils L1, L2)
Kondenysator circuits of the primary gets out on working nepryazhenie not less than 4 kV, the capacity of the condenser depends on working frequency of a secondary contour (at the author nanofarads 28 at resonant frequency 600 kHz). The condenser should have the minimal dielectric losses and hold Soline capacity (quartz)
The compound battery of condensers and more low-power is usually typed. The optimal types kondensaktorov-
- K78-2, k78-15, k78-25, or others similar capable well to maintain pulse currents of the category.
- The condenser of the secondary.
It is better to apply condensers specified above types but with a pressure not less than 10 kilo-volts . Condensers of types KVI-3, and still better-K15-y2 work perfectly.
Secondary katuschka with capacity of the condenser shape a resonant contour. Capacity of the condenser of the secondary zayisit from required resonant frequency (at the author - the condenser kvi3 10 square meters in 2200 picofarads) ..
Photo of the condenser of the secondary:
High-frequency recuperation a throttle with the minimal through passage capacity
Olrientirovochnaya inductance of a throttle 100 200 uH. Versions with sectioning obmotkok are possible. Diameter Wire-1 ,5-2mm in enamel izolitsii.
Photo of a version of a throttle:
The throttle is wound on a mandrel 50 PVC 75 mm.
The battery of storage condensers
It is possible to apply condensers a pressure 5-15 square in the general capacity in area 2 microfarads.
Any types of oil-filled condensers of types k41-1, K75-53 and other approach ..
The diagram of the converter:
Diodes VD1, VD2 - high-voltage columns.
Diode VD5-ultrafast volt30 1200-150 ampere.
Drosse5l L3 Luba with not closed magnetic core a wire (trunk) not less 6mm2, 5.1 mH inductive ..
Load (the inverter or the motor of a direct current) to apply with a low entrance pressure of 12-110 volt (nirzhe the pressure - is more energy on an output)
Extension follows ...
At assembly and experiments do not forget about the Safety precautions at work on pressure more than 1000 Volt.
http://www.001-lab.com/001lab/index....downfile&id=91
http://freeenergylt.narod2.ru/dynatron/
its all pervading medium spread on every nook and corner of this earth.

consist of dipoles or particles finer than electrons , protons or neutrons.

speeding very fast at the speed of light.

when we stop or reduce ether speed we get overunity.

ether can can be tamed by using higher and oscillating potential(cos of its dielectric property).

ether exists between coils(air core/dielectric) and capacitor(air core/dielectric core)

resonance helps to reduce input and still be able to alter ether.

to tap ether for our use we need two plates either coils or caps to store energy as compressed ether.

have u ever guessed how ac can pass thru capacitor? its becoz ether transfers charge across two plates of capacitor.

u have to have ac from pulsed dc to harvest ether.

ether is not magnetic its electric in nature!

cap is ether manipulator and harvestor. but ether in itself dont do anyhing we have to convert it into magnetic (trafo) and trafo works on pulsed induction or ac,and use it.

unlimited ether exists we just need a pump to use it. and pump is a coil.

zzzz

Just reading the book from Gerry Vassilatos "Secret of cold war technology". It is primary a book regarding Tesla's aether technology and not a book of warfare. You confirm Utkin and Vassilatos or vice versa.
You developed a intuitive feeling regarding these matters. Thanks for sharing

@ALL:
All experimenters should read these deep insights in Tesla's work from Vassilatos.

BTW: On page 48 Vassilatos explains the use of carbon at spark gaps (see Ed Grey). Metals exhibit electrons and these are a not wanted byproduct at sparking while crabon gives less electrons and seems to aid the aether engineering. Magnetic quenched spark gaps spread the not wanted electrons away while maintaining the aether essentials. But read yourselves....
rgds John
Originally Posted by cinan
John:

you are right, I have few 'friends' with major math/physics/computers and more gud they are, more 'artificial' world they
are living in. They have another reality, 'floating few meters above ground' and everybody around is 'stupid' ...
But in terms of what ? Matematics / physics / particles / equations. Well ok, but they have to accept that other people
have another interests and hey basically looks 'stupid' on other peoples field. I asked one of my friend to bring good kari
and briani stuff for party. He answered: What is it ? How heavy is it ? He didnd know thing which half of the uneducated
world knows. But ok, once he learn it, he never forget it and that is difference between us and them. And they are sometimes
social disasters too )

Back to the topic. Zilano said thad aether is electric in nature. So scalar waves are generated along with magnetic and electric
field in the solenoid coil, but are overrided by magnetic field. If coil is resonating by classical way, there are E / B
vectors. Right ? So thats why there is cancelling setup to get rid of magnetic component and oscillate (simply put) only
'electrical / scalar' waves, or driving pulse must be quick enough, current in coil is not build, so no magnetic component
has no time to build up. So you are actually resonating aether itself by this way ? Then in resonance extra electrons will
enter the system from ambient and yes, they will rush down through our load or...

Now HV make sense and is actually biasing whole resonant system above/below ambiend (groung, system is grounded) level.
And this can be done by polarising diodes in HV section to source + or - reffered to ground. Then you can actually 'suck'
electrons from the groung, reverse whole flow and due to resonant transfer they enter harvest system ?

Brrr its very wild idea. Please correct me somebody. As people are reporting cooling effest if cold electricity takes
place, is obvious that energy is taken from air to ground. But Tesla was able to heat or cool entire room so how ?

Cinan

magnetic lines of force are cool but they produce hot electricity. ether is neutral but consist of plus minus(electric) and these align between plates of capacitor to transfer charge from one plate to other. magnetics and ether r two sources of energy which move at speed of light. magnetics produce hot electricity where as ether produce cold electricity. cold electricity can be used to make hot electricity either by pulsing (using diode or spark gap) to trafo and get electricity which produces not only light but heat also.

remember one thing dissimilar always produce more and similar produce less. dissimilar produce + and - similar produce either + or -

we use north pole and south pole to get ac if we use slip rings.(generator concept)

bedini type uses monopole so the output is just a pulse.

rgds
zzzz
Finding resonance
zilano
Senior Member Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 200

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnStone
Thanks! zilano! Can anybody read Russian? I'll try it at our secretary. She claims to have learned Russion while living in the former German "democratic" Republic. But she has no technical knowledge at all. Perhaps she can transfer it in normal text in order to crank it through google translator.

My personal notion regarding schematic function (comments welcome):

A: Middle bottom of schematic
1. Transformer (Tp3) from obviously 50 Hz 220V to some lower voltage DC. Let's suppose somewhere between 12V and 24V.
2. Switch for start / stop in the DC power line

B: Left hand side
1. Higher frequency oscillator Meissner type (corresponds to JT)
2. Transistors work push/pull towards an artificial middle voltage C3/C4. This saves additional 2 Transistors in order to build a true H-Bridge. (BTW: Stepper motor drivers use cheap H-Bridges up to 40V/ 3.5 A i.e. TB6560AHQ)
3. Meissner transformer 40/40 turns (Tp1) (Air core? / Ferrite?)

C: Middle of schematic (bridge betwen transformer Tp1 and Tp2 and Tp3)
1. On same core from above core: harvest coil with middle connector. 120 turn (1x 120 or 2x120?) (cw/ccw?)
2. Connected to harvest coils there is a normal 220V/50Hz transformer for low voltage (see A
3. Transformer connected via 2 capcitors c5 c6
4. Power output after C5/C6 with 220 V switch
5. Output with earth connection (safety or essential?)

Discussion:
This normally should be a high frequency output. Don Smith prefers his (for me) not understandbale "frequency scale down" resistor. Russians seem to prefer a more understandbale version. They modulate the high frequency by another 50 Hz transformer (Tp3). I'm not completely clear about this. Comments welcome!

D: Right hand side
1. Another Oscillator of Meissner type. (50Hz?) adjustable
2. Transformer Tp3 / Transformer with (Iron core?)
3. Output coils with spark gap (seems to modulate high frequency)
4. Earth connection. (individual or same as 220V output? / safety?/functional?/ essential?)

Discussion: Not celar how this modulation works along with this spark gap.

@Zilano: I understand your words regarding cold and hot. But my heart is not open to understand. I need to learn alot! And I understand that knowledge needs more than one way in order to be received.
rgds John

the coil is cw60 cw60 and middle is sparked.
the output is fed to two caps making cold electricity which is fed to ironcored trafo. of 12v which charges cap and is fed to the local oscillator40 turns providing 50 hz. the capacitor acts as buffer after fwbrd 12 v to feed the local oscillator and the hv flyback oscillator. here pure tesla config used. no diodes used in hv circuit. yes earth is necessary. it gives 150 watt with heat and light and runs bulb continuously. the core is ferrite rings joined to form a tube. the cold electricity is converted to hot electricity by trafo(ironcored) most ou produce cold output with light so bright but no heat. here it produces normal electricity with heat and light when bulb is lighted. u only have to charge cap with 12 volt battery and then remove the battery and switch to turn on. the cap discharges triggering both local lv and hv oscillators and circuit runs endlessly until u break the cap circuit that is being charged
the coil is cw60 cw60 and middle is sparked.
the output is fed to two caps making cold electricity which is fed to ironcored trafo. of 12v which charges cap and is fed to the local oscillator40 turns providing 50 hz. the capacitor acts as buffer after fwbrd 12 v to feed the local oscillator and the hv flyback oscillator. here pure tesla config used. no diodes used in hv circuit. yes earth is necessary. it gives 150 watt with heat and light and runs bulb continuously. the core is ferrite rings joined to form a tube. the cold electricity is converted to hot electricity by trafo(ironcored) most ou produce cold output with light so bright but no heat. here it produces normal electricity with heat and light when bulb is lighted. u only have to charge cap with 12 volt battery and then remove the battery and switch to turn on. the cap discharges triggering both local lv and hv oscillators and circuit runs endlessly until u break the cap circuit that is being charged.
understand the circuit below. its not based on resonanace but gives ou. to harvest unlimited ou resonance is added. sr tried thief got 150 watts. u can add resonance to get unlimited. its the basis. cold to hot and hot to cold.
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Posts: 29

Resonant output transformer

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The resonant output transformer is part of the circuit. J L Naudin forgot this and used a microwave oven transformer in reverse and ... FAILED!!!
REMEMBER THIS. The important thing to remember is the wiring ratio 1 to 4. Measure the wire before winding. In this reverse coil;- total secondary should be 4 primary should be 1. (Harmonics should also work, so later we can try 8:1) Number of turns simply increases voltage or amperage and does not really matter in getting OU. But the primary goes inside the secondary.
Remember to measure the wire FIRST! If using Don Smith input, make sure the input wires ratio 1: 4 and output wire ratios 1:4 are exactly the SAME LENGTH. That way (if you are slightly out, you can avoid using capacitors)if you use wires with clips you can find the resonant points because the circuit will RING like a loudspeaker, only you will not be able to hear exactly where the sound is coming from because it is the WHOLE circuit which is outputting sound. Later you can experiment by EXACTLY doubling the output wire lengths. But the ratio must be maintained 1 : 4. (Later we can try 8:1)
Or you can use BIG FAT WIRES.
It is a bit like making a musical instrument.
If you use clear varnish on the output coil former you increase the Q. In other words you help RESONANCE! RESONANCE, RESONANCE, RESONANCE. HOW MANY MORE TIMES! Think of Tesla's earthquake machine. LOOK IT UP! Do you think he ever forgot the lesson? 2 watts in - BILLIONS OF WATTS OUT!! Repeat:-RESONANCE, RESONANCE, RESONANCE. IS IT CLEAR!!!!
Nowadays to avoid RESONANCE, bridges have nodes with spheres attached to avoid ...... RESONANCE. Once again RESONANCE RESONANCE RESONANCE on the output transformer. Now forgive me if I don't post for a while cos I'm building RESONANT output transformers according to Tesla's diagram and script
a.king21
Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 29

Length

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I'll tell you when I've built it. You can only go so far with theory, then you have to experiment. My gut is stick to the 1:4 ratio in the output coil. The output coil is the equivalent of Tesla's skyscraper which in his own words he could have completely demolished had he left the earthquake machine on for another half hour. We have to go beyond EM theory and look at the physical object.
EG if the output transformer was the size of a HOUSE(!) do you think the input and output wires would make much difference? In my circuits, the whole thing vibrates. Physically vibrates. So the answer is make the transformer as BIG as you can (4:1)with the equipment you have, then experiment with the input and output wires. In any case you can hear the circuit when it's in resonance. You are looking for as high a pitch as you can hear, which would put it in the 18 to 20khz range, then go higher. This is easily done by moving your wires with clips attached around the output transformer. Additionally attaching a neon to the output acts as a good indicator also. Don't trust meters coz they don't work at this level. The main thing is NEVER to use a commercially built output transformer. They are designed to REMOVE resonance! Just like the bridges with nodules attached. Thanks to Zilano's experiments I think we have crossed the barrier into overunity. At last the thing FEELS right. In the past I have had my whole room vibrating with just 1.2 watts input. Like a clown I was using commercial transformers and NOTHING. No overunity, yet just being in the room you knew OU was there but you could not get enough output. If you look at Don Smith's literature, I don't remember him showing us an OUTPUT transformer! We all just assumed too much and that includes the great Naudin! Also, because we're working with high volts and low current the wires are flimsy compared to the output transformer, yet there's enough power to SHAKE the thing. Therefore the power is in the electrons in the OUTPUT transformer, which we are RESONATING. You have to change the way we look at circuits.
So a BIG output transformer has physically billions more electrons in it which we are RESONATING compared to the input electron numbers. That's the BIG SECRET! Remember it is IMPOSSIBLE for the electrons in the input circuit to be in the output transformer! There's an AIR BARRIER!! And there's no spark gap at that point! the only link is MAGNETIC RESONANCE! Hail Don Smith if we're right.
zilano
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[quote=mr.clean;173727]
Quote:
Originally Posted by deggers

it was not easy man
Had to pull out the wire from its lexan forms, then straightened it with pliers (very important) or else you'll lose length in a hurry, the tiny kinks ate up 3 inches on the one half of L2.
Then with a 2" pvc inside to push against, i pressed them all back (into slots that worked) with the tip of my pliers
Fingers are still painfull, but worth it, before even at best the output would be diminished because the direction of the cycling in the core was fighting itself. I never thought it mattered that much untill recently when reading about transformers.
Even winding the primary opposite from the secondary can do things like alter polarity.
So i may try a caduceus,
but anyway im thrilled that 4ft of wire for L1 is working, it must have been the frequency, i havent gotten results til now with a 1/4 primary
Schematic to come...

Hi Kdkinen!

yes u got the point atlast. hot to cold. stretched bifilar(one leg cw and other is ccw) is similar to cap and cap is cold. even caduceus is cap. the basis is primary can affect secondary but secondary must not affect primary. cold electricity is gold electricity. just store it in a vessel called cap and fire it to trafo to make it hot again.

great going! great work! happy new year to you! and all!

love. peace. health and harmony for everyone

the thief circuit works similar where 40 turns acts as primary oscillator and hv is made cold by passing through caps like tesla cold electricity. only cold electricity is not affected by load coz of it radiant nature.

regards

zelina
Hot Cold
PM
mr.clean
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New Video with bell-shaped wave-form

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Hi everyone, been away from the forum but have some good progress in my opinion,
Here is my latest video, i'll paste the description here...

Very pleased with the results from this new setup
-Variable Freq and Pulse Width adjustable with 2 dials from 20khz to 300khz + with various cap combinations and 0-100% duty cycle
-anti-parallel double ignition coil driver (seems to give double the freq than single) so when one is pos, the other is neg
-snubber between ignition coil primary is a 1kv .1uf parallel with a neon and those are series with a 10kohm resistor, havent blown any chips since and the neon lites when duty cycle is to high
-small 5 amp analog meter to view input from 12 v battery
-L1 is 4 ft of 3mm insulated cable (too thick is not good) with .005uf
-L2 is 16 ft of B&W Airdux inductor half rewound to cw ccw (WHAT A ***** THAT WAS) Dons popular double helices board is strangely wound all one direction with 1.54nf between center tap and output end of L2
-adding more or less capacitance on L1 or L2 took away from output
-Seemingly increased spark on output with more firey and violet apearance than the blue-white input spark
-output bulbs are the same 12vdc 30 amp automotive bulbs
-very strong output over the 92 ohm load 5 bulbs with more to offer
MEMORY CARD GOT FULL AGAIN, or i wouldve shown what a core does...
-No change in wave form or current draw when output is short-circuited
-Seemingly no drop in input battery while drawing 1 amp continuously after 2 weeks
-Shocks recieved right off both battery terminals during operation
-Rising exponential looking increase seen in the wave-form was achieved by varying the series spark, parallel to HV output capacitor and frequency dial.
-Voltage on output is 1000+ volts
-I could show readings from my clAmpmeter, but no-one believes them LOL
-0amps current registers on output with the analog meter LOL
-Oscillations no longer affect the tv or computer

Don Smith Device Project Part 20a: Bell-shaped Wave-Form and Output Testing - YouTube
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haan
Hi,

please explain your usage of the terms hot and cold, and why they are important to this concept/device.

hot means magnetic field. cold means no magnetic field. hot and cold mixed make oscillations and when harvesting cold separates hot always. we cannot tap energy without loading unless we separate cold with hot. cold can create hot and hot can create cold. if output is hot we use cold to tap it and when output is cold we use hot to make electricity not cold electricity but normal electricity.

rgds
zzzz
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[quote=mr.clean;173776]
Quote:
Originally Posted by zilano

Thanks buddy yes this will be the year to change all years i believe, who knows for sure, but a lot points to it.
yeah, all this time ive wanted to come as close as possible to Dons board, and maybe im wrong and still dont know something, but his was all one direction, then a few windings taken out, but in all my experience, you gotta go that extra bit and re-wind it all so the fields dont contradict one another.

Ingener99 on youtube has some of the best vids showing induction, but are still mysterious despite his clear demonstrations, it takes advanced knowledge to understand, he doesnt speak much, but with experimenting we can find out.

The thing is i just feel we're running out of time before the info highway is shut down.

Anyway one in particular is this one
a fine ring down pattern, then other side of L2 added, and a killer whale wave form appears from the proximity of both L2's...

should the gap between L2's be a certain distance? I always thought close as possible.
Can someone explain this?

yes a gap must be there but not too large or too small but enough width of the primary coil.so interaction between poles takes place.

about killer whale wave its coz of shorted coil with cap and is in resonance with primary. to harvest more we use one primary coil and another shorted coil and 3rd harvest coil that taps the resonance of primary and shorted(with cap of course) to act as reverberation resonance and harvested with third coil.

there r only two basic methods to harvest zero point energy.

one is back emf
second is cold electricity
both have much similarities in operation.

every energy has two faces two factors or two forces that constitute it. one is positive and other is negative. they always try to neutralize and end an untimely death. if we separate each component so similar component gets added to each of the constituent and they make a whopping mass stored to be united again for use as and when we need it.

as singles mingle more with singles than couples mingle with couples in our social life or singles mingling with couples. so separate a couple to make em single so more singles join each single then make them a couple. and u have a large couple of energy. that can be used as an when required. --- dipole theory.

rgds

zelina
Originally Posted by zilano

Thanks buddy yes this will be the year to change all years i believe, who knows for sure, but a lot points to it.
yeah, all this time ive wanted to come as close as possible to Dons board, and maybe im wrong and still dont know something, but his was all one direction, then a few windings taken out, but in all my experience, you gotta go that extra bit and re-wind it all so the fields dont contradict one another.

Ingener99 on youtube has some of the best vids showing induction, but are still mysterious despite his clear demonstrations, it takes advanced knowledge to understand, he doesnt speak much, but with experimenting we can find out.

The thing is i just feel we're running out of time before the info highway is shut down.

Anyway one in particular is this one
a fine ring down pattern, then other side of L2 added, and a killer whale wave form appears from the proximity of both L2's...

should the gap between L2's be a certain distance? I always thought close as possible.
Can someone explain this?

yes a gap must be there but not too large or too small but enough width of the primary coil.so interaction between poles takes place.

about killer whale wave its coz of shorted coil with cap and is in resonance with primary. to harvest more we use one primary coil and another shorted coil and 3rd harvest coil that taps the resonance of primary and shorted(with cap of course) to act as reverberation resonance and harvested with third coil.

there r only two basic methods to harvest zero point energy.

one is back emf
second is cold electricity
both have much similarities in operation.

every energy has two faces two factors or two forces that constitute it. one is positive and other is negative. they always try to neutralize and end an untimely death. if we separate each component so similar component gets added to each of the constituent and they make a whopping mass stored to be united again for use as and when we need it.

as singles mingle more with singles than couples mingle with couples in our social life or singles mingling with couples. so separate a couple to make em single so more singles join each single then make them a couple. and u have a large couple of energy. that can be used as an when required. --- dipole theory.

rgds

zelina
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Top line:
Experimental Schematic of the Thief Generator (2009.12.25)

Switches:
CTO∏ = Stop
∏YCK = put in operation

Bottom lines:
Working principles:
1. Average wave impulse > 3 KV
2. Frequency of the module 0,05 – 10KHz
Notes: The capacitors C1, C5- C7 need a voltage not below 4KV
(Explanation from the translator: letter "p" in Russian means the letter "r" so "Tp" corresponds to "Tr" = transformer)
(Tr.1 in the connetction (translator ???) = 30mm, Tr.2 transformer with a voltage of 220/15V)
Literature: E.P. Bornobolokow and W.W. Fronow: Schematics for Eadio Enthusiasts,Technical publications: 1985 (pages 77,80 und 191)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T-1000
It is incorrect, the 90 degrees contacts on rotor N. Tesla ment to be on coil shorting in right time for magnetic field kick helping another coil.

Please see Ismael Aviso Tech Ambient extraction basic principles part 2 / 3 - YouTube regarding coil shorting and what happens there.

Also not sure on Fig 2. because nobody really seen original Kapanadze circuit...

rememeber cold electricity is not affected by shorting! and does not load input.

ref see latest video of kdkinen! as proof.

Don Smith Device Project Part 20a: Bell-shaped Wave-Form and Output Testing - YouTube

the idea is either to use rotary switch to pulse the trafo like good old days power supply superseeded by vibrator supplies did in invertors converting dc 12 volt to 120/230 volt and these days dual transistor power supply or 555 timer based invertors. producing the desired voltage and frequency.

KAPANADZE FIRST DEVICE WAS ROTARY producing desired voltage and frequency.

rgds
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yes a gap must be there but not too large or too small but enough width of the primary coil.so interaction between poles takes place.

about killer whale wave its coz of shorted coil with cap and is in resonance with primary. to harvest more we use one primary coil and another shorted coil and 3rd harvest coil that taps the resonance of primary and shorted(with cap of course) to act as reverberation resonance and harvested with third coil.

there r only two basic methods to harvest zero point energy.

one is back emf
second is cold electricity
both have much similarities in operation.

every energy has two faces two factors or two forces that constitute it. one is positive and other is negative. they always try to neutralize and end an untimely death. if we separate each component so similar component gets added to each of the constituent and they make a whopping mass stored to be united again for use as and when we need it.

as singles mingle more with singles than couples mingle with couples in our social life or singles mingling with couples. so separate a couple to make em single so more singles join each single then make them a couple. and u have a large couple of energy. that can be used as an when required. --- dipole theory.

rgds

zelina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnStone
Mmmmm! Confused! Did I miss something?
1. It is not Tesla reverse. The 2 times 20 turns should produce high voltage. (At least conforming my brain)
2. I do not underdstand the function of the components from + to NST
rgds John

this is kapanadze. the split coil produces dc constantly. yes voltage is higher but we have to reduce it to 12 volt to charge battery(12v). the nst is 12 volt operated. we can also directly charge the cap instead of charging battery. so a battery just used for touch to start device and after 3-10 seconds battery can be removed and device goes self running
the actual scenerio.

the centre dual split coil is + and the two outer ends negative. it has dual outputs. the output is dc when pulsed dc is used to oscillate coil. output does not change polarity under resonance. it actually uses two mode one is generator mode and other is back emf mode. both cycles produce outputs under resonance.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.clean
Hello, kdkinen here
interesting notation, im not sure i understand it lol
You are prob explaining something, but i am taking pos from the outter ends of L2s, and neg connection to center tap, as the usual.

After looking over some designs i am compelled to look a second time at the Stout Copper Bars / Hairpin Circuit.

In my vid 13 i basically have "that" hooked up, but didnt realize it LOL

That was the best light i have gotten with induction, so im gonna play around with the NEW High Freq setup, with this older design...
Don Smith Device Project Part 13: B&W Inductor Coils - YouTube

Don Smith Device Project Part 16: 30 volts input & FULL brightness? - YouTube

My dear Kurt!

u already have reached the point where load is not affecting the input. and this is the right point. as don mentioned amperage comes into effect only at the final trafo. dont count ur chicks before they hatch. before final trafo u cant measure amperage or voltage. The zero point is when shorting output does not effect input. or adding more load doesnt increase input. and battery gets charged infinitely.

but u can try other configs aswell.

understand coiling the coil u r using in ur latest vid produces plus in centre and negatives at the end. even if the primary coil input is ac. if u use don type config then whole thing chnages the centre is negative and each end alternates + and negative.

the coil i flashed of ur setup uses both mode of generation back emf and generator(induction mode) both ac cycles produce centre positive and ends negative.

one can verify this using ferrite core with normal 12 volt transformer wire and wounding coils and using led on the secondary coil. find right polarity and connect diodes the correct way. and pulsing coil with relay operated pulsed dc and see how led behaves with each pulse then try to reverse dc polarity and see led activity. when fully sure how secondary behaving with primary pulsing. then move on with higher voltage setup. coz at high voltage its hard to verify the polarity.

coiling the right way affects everything. and correct diode attachment at output changes everything.

my humble recommendations for everybody. learn about electromagnets they r the base. since its single coil not multilayered so its easy to determine polarity output of secondary.

rgds

zzzz
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joefr
Hi Zilano thanks for explanation

I am looking for a way to build high voltage 4000 - 6000 volts 30 - 40Khz power supply, driven from a 12V battery which is suitable and which I can use to replicate Don Smith - Zilano device.

I dont want to use flyback transformers or made NST.

I want to make my own HV source so that I am not dependent on purchased transformers.

I am looking for help how to calculate secondary coil, how many turns of wire, what size of the PVC tube on which is secondary HV coil wound. How to calculate HV secondary coil properties so it will oscillate between 30 - 40Khz.

Best Regards

JoeFR

all the details in this thread. but its wiser to use 12 volt nst solid state. coz they have fixed frequency and the newcomer has not to haggle and tune to get the right frequency. the basic thing is the main coil. frequency depends upon L and c both can be measured with an LCR meter. rule of thumb is make primary 1/4 length of secondary and turns depend upon the diameter of tube u r gonna wind it. so take a string and wound 5 turns and measure its length. and cut wire accordingly. make secondary four times the length of primary. then cut secondary in two halves. coil according to the figure i posted of kdkinen.cw and ccw. make sure the length u measure must include the length of the terminals protruding from the coiling to the various connections. they are included in ur lengths.

suppose u have primary 5ft and secondary 20 ft and u need 1 feet for connections. then u have 3 feet primary and 18 feet secondary that needs to be wounded. if u have say 5 turns and u r inputting 4kv
so each turn of primary will have 4000/5=800 volts and each of this 800volt will induce into secondary in its each turn. if u have 20 turns in secondary then 20x800v=16000volts in secondary that is 16kv in secondary. if u use split coiling then they have 8kv each tap from centre to top and from centre to bottom. across top and bottom tap u have 16kv

rgds
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Mr. Kurt. aliased mr. clean aliased kdkinen is on the right track. i advice people to follow him. He is a perfect gentleman.

rgds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.clean
I Very much appreciate those words and the advice you continue to give.
Although i still do not understand all of what you say, im more than willing to accept your tips.
I am waiting for a couple components and looking forward to trying your newly released schematic, the connections all make sense to me

Thank you for mentioning the important part of the load not affecting the primary, and not counting chicks before they hatch, i need to get the last half of the Smith built before concluding anything

My dear Kurt!
all i meant is that if u follow don cw cw split coils then centre of secondary is negative and each end of secondary is positive.

where as in ur last setup the way coils r wound they have + in centre tap and - at each end.

for verification.

use copper wire of an old 12 v ac 500 ma trafo extract coil. take any ferrite rod of an old transistor radio. wound primary thicker ten turns at the centre of ferrite rod. cover it with insulation tape. above that wound 30 turns each leg( same as u have done in ur last video) as secondary. take a 6 volt battery and connect both terminals to primary of the coil in series with a push to on switch. connect led + to centre tap of secondary and negative of led to either end of secondary. press push to on switch the led will light. now do same with centre tap and other end of secondary. push the switch the led will light. this shows the centre is positive and ends negative. now reverse polarity of primary swap + and - of battery and do the same for each leg. the led will light confirming that centre is + and ends still negative but led will light intermittantly so u have to press switch alternately and a little faster. coz the current generated in secondary is due to back emf. and it acts as inductive kick. but led will light. now join both ends that is negative terminals and attach led with centre+ and joined ends - and press switch alternately and u will see led will glow and reverse polarity of primary and keep pressing switch alternately. u will see led glow has no change it will glow and polarity of primary has no effect on polarity of secondary. led will glow proving that there is no change in polarity when u change polarity of primary.

since at resonance the ac hf is up n down the up portion is positive cycle and down portion is negative cycle. both will generate output. thats a dual advantage.

rgds

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mr.clean
holy crap thats cool, ok, im gonna reverse my fast recovery diode bridges when i get home n see if it "brightens" things up thanks !

that may explain why im having issues with charging SIMPLE output caps??
(diodes i have hooked as pos...is actually neg ? )

In vid 15... (its now explained), i WAS using the infamous cw/cw, and DID charge caps... although... the Mot diodes would very quickly heat up, and pos i was taking from outers, and worked with the cw/cw. (thanks, i think i get it now)
Looks more all the time that there was method to Dons madness

I trust your explanation with the Leds, that would make polarity finding easy, i'll try that

you can use any 6v electric bell in series as interuptor(acting as repetitive switch) or can use 6 volt spst/spdt relay in series to automate tapping of switch) so pulsed dc is fed to primary for finding polarity. its quite cumbersome to tap switch manually. so automate switching.

rgds

zzzz

Originally Posted by JohnStone
Hi Zilano,
Your drawing regarding Kurt's setup shows + in the middle secondary. OK so far.
But what is exactly different at Don's setup with minus in the middle? Is it because he did not use cw/ccw at secondary?
rgds John

dons coils were cw.cw based on centre tapped trafo. yes polarity changes with the way we do a coil cw or ccw. an electromagnet is wound first layer cw from left to right when we reach the end the second layer is wound again on top of first layer cw right to left and many layers make it strong magnet but winding is in one direction either cw or ccw layering coil doesn't change direction of coil. if u started winding cw then all layers will be cw. or if u started winding ccw then all layers wound ccw. so poles remain same north as north and south as south. changing direction of coiling changes poles. suppose if u wound cw first layer and then ccw 2nd layer and same number of turns on both layers then first layer of poles neutralizes 2nd layer of poles. so no electromagnet.

important: the split lower end of cw cw centre tapped trafo(like don) produces amps and the upper half produces voltage. split coiling is done to separate volts and amps. and to have less or more volts one can tap lesser or more turns of upper half. for more or less amps one can tap more or less turns of lower half. in this way we can adjust our power requirement adjustable.

rgds

zzzz
Originally Posted by mr.clean
Hey again, yes there is definitely use for both directions, and i still dont know myself which to stick with
*cause in vid 15 WITH CW/CW i was able to charge caps no prob, i think my B&W coil couldve prob stayed wound as before??,

but easy to re-wind if i choose lol

I did try the Led experiment u mentioned (Sorta) lol well i didnt use a tiny battery, just detached the secondary output connections, and the Led lights both directions.

But here's the thing... while connected...

..Im EARTH grounding the center tap (as i always have) directly along with the neg black output wire, so the middle would have to be neg right?, and running the output ends thru hwbr's i cutting off whatever neg cycles are coming off L2's, im seeing AC qualities (lighting both directions) but am cutting off neg by using the output diodes forward facing.

Im still confused,

but output is the same wheather i use the neg OR the pos out of the bridge rectifier ?

well if u r using earth then stick to don.

cw cw

rgds
zzzz
Thanks Zilano! Now I feel to have got these facts. Perhaps not completely - sorry for asking again - I did not get yet the real difference Kurt vs. Don. Your notions seem true for both setups.

Is it the cw/cw vs cw/ccw? Is it the earth connection(s) ? Is it the dispalcement out of the mechanical middle area? Please help an old brain crossing the road from education to reality?
rgds John
Mr Clean Kurt kdkinen
"Reverse Tesla Coil" is where the spark gap pulsed DC voltage from a 4000 volt (4kv) 30 kHz NST (neon
sign transformer) goes into an air coil primary P of high inductance (80 turns thin wire) that then "steps down"
the voltage to 240 volts AC a low inductance Secondary coil centered over the primary coil (5 turns bifilar,
center tap, thick wire) with high amperage output. The high frequency (35kHz) AC output can then power
loads (light bulbs) or can be rectified to DC to power DC loads.
Copper coated welding rods can be inserted into the air coil to increase the inductance of the air coil primary
that then increases the output amperage from the secondary coil to the loads.
very important
the position of spark gap in my circuit is important. dont use spark gap in series. caps must be parallel with
primary and a spark gap in parallel before LC combination. if u change spark gap position all u will be getting
induction power which is always under unity and we dont want that. so keep spark gap as shown in above
figure. veryyyyyyyyy important.
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http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/resonant.html
http://www.rmcybernetics.com/shop/cyber-circuits/signal-control/3-channel-time-delay-generator/prod_112.html
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Originally Posted by T-1000
The self power is last step after you rebuild device. But it is primary target for those who do not want this technology in the wild...

You did not get a point how our setup works...
The flyback transformer see another transformer as capacitor. Not transformer, but capacitor! Let's assume it as Tesla Coil.

The AV plug does the job for transformer action in Tesla Coil primary(or D.Smith/Kapanadze/other - does not matter, they're on same principle).

How AV plug works - because of capacitance loop action between 2 open ends of flyback secondary coil... And this is main rule for open circuit.
In the end of the process you get induction in secondary of Tesla Coil what does not affect source what powers flyback transformer!

Hopefully that explain some hard bits.

thanks for the info. wot i mean to make people understand here. separate means use cap. it also does same thing. wot u did.

hint:
1.cold electricity is not affected by load.
2. wot makes cold electricity?

one more thing kapanadze uses caduceus as secondary coil and primary is just simple coil. tesla basics. he uses it as harvest coil(caduceus) and the wounding of coil is not done like smith(of caduceus fame like the way ur team has done) but the way i posted in one of my posts. with 25kv ur gonna have mega watts of power.

but ur team has done a great work keep it up. dont take my words as dimnishing ur spirits but am giving u hint to get megawatts from 25kv.

rgds
zzzz
001Lab Dynatron early comments on his design back in May 2011:

Questions:
Please tell me how many of the items on your reel fits into the description of the Smith and / or what is the difference?

1. The length of the wires of the primary exactly 4 times shorter than the length of wire in each half of the secondary.

2. Search neonkoy max. glow in the secondary housing, the conclusion at this point and rollback unnecessary (it is not clear in what mode?).

3. The resonant frequency of the primary and the secondary is equal to the frequency of pumping strochnika.

4. Weekend Conder geometrically in parallel, and in fact consistently (there generally is not clear).

Thank you for your work and the openness of the people!

Hi!
1) yes the length of the inductor is equal to the quarters of the coil, ie length of both halves - it must be to agree on a quarter-resonance

2) Search hgfdbkmyjcnm set quarter-resonance neonkoy not necessary, if the length of the primary equals the length of the secondary, well, if you want to do it, then fold the capacitor with vtrichki and make sure that the ends of the coil - a maximum of

3) The resonant frequency of LC resonant frequency is vtrichki LC circuit of the primary, the resonant frequency of the transformer assemblies do not have anything to do with the frequency of the primary and the secondary coil itself Smith. TVS simply pumping, ie charges the capacitor outline, which is then discharged through a spark gap in the inductor

4) Output Conder included so that the total capacity was approximately 8 microfarads and voltage 8.2 kV.

5) The capacitor is switched on all the secondary

6) reactor at the midpoint of the coil is mandatory (see diagram that I post), without the choke coil is not free rezontorom
Well, for starters I think is enough ...

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Dynatron's Don Smith Design Notes

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Supplemented with the main conclusions of the work and construction of the generator by Donald Smith on the circuit with a split coil with reduced below the photo. May God grant us all the knowledge to look into the book and see fig.

Testing of purely materialistic version of the generator led to results that have changed my views on electricity.

Open here to see the principle of this type of generator is based on the properties of standing and traveling waves of electromagnetic separation of neutral and charge cords radiant - the electron in a huge number of those present in the environment, with a high voltage of at least 3000V with the subsequent capture of magnetic traps radiant current nodes of the longitudinal electromagnetic wave mode resonance in contrast to the author's concept of left-and right-spin electrons is my intellectual property and can not be applied to patent by third parties and given to the free use of all of humanity. Donald Smith, according to the technical design of the bank of capacitors C3 as load coils L2 guided by the properties of a traveling electromagnetic wave but sounded a slightly different mechanism of generation. In fact, Donald Smith announced as a basis for the separation of the generator on the charges in his expression of non-ionic charge of the electron and C3. I defined the mechanism of capture and transportation of the magnetic fields of the current node of the longitudinal wave mode resonance at the correct polarization process, positively charged particles loose from the radiant after using the high capacity of at least 3000V of them neutralized the free electron. Since the particles of the radiant is very weak for small sizes interact with matter that they generate little stream, you must still hold it in Windows Explorer. It must be remembered that the isolation of constraining the electrons to the radiant barrier is not. Only with the help of electric and magnetic fields we can manipulate the particles and their radiant shock. Therefore, the energy barriers in semiconductors will be in the case of radiant power to fulfill his role, which can be used in the circuits of radiant power. Resistance is only possible to manipulate the voltage. These are the basic properties of the identified yet radiant.

Before you begin the manufacture of generator remember the most important rule when working with voltages and currents boobies do not last long, learn the rules of working with high voltage.

Before you begin to familiarize with the circuitry of the generator should be familiar with the principle of this device. Not understanding the principles of operation of these generators is very hard to get it working and only the wise decision of Donald Smith to create a generator of finished units available on the market makes it possible to build it even a schoolboy. A deal in principle of what he had not been working with the machine much easier.

To understand the processes occurring in the generator must understand and accept that in addition to the negatively charged electrons even more widespread phenomenon is positively charged particles with sufficiently small size that a stream of particles with almost no loss, as the Tesla, passes through the planet. The source of these particles are stars and the sun in the first place. This phenomenon is called the Tesla radiant. Current caused by these particles called cold. Cold because the particles are too small radiant mass, even against the electrons and therefore can not be transferred to the atoms in the collision of matter no matter how significant the moment either. Tesla called his greatest discovery of the radiant opening. These particles could easily be split with ether, the residue reactions solar reactor. To set a specific origin of these particles requires fundamental research, for our purposes will suffice and that the concept around in the environment is a positive charge carriers is much smaller in size and charge versus the electron. It is obvious that some of the particles passing through the radiant substance or of the effects of electromagnetic fields is stalled and must interact with the negatively charged free electrons and ions partially or completely neutralizing them. Now it becomes clear why indoors where there is no ionizing factor electrons and negative ions emitted by the ionizer quickly disappear, their charge is neutralized by the inhibited part of the radiant. Here, words pop up on the Don "nonionic" (ie, neutralized) electrons, which are separated by its dual coil. Electrons merge into the ground and polarize one capacitor plates, the second positive particles coalesce. In this scenario, incorrect polarity processes in the nodes of the circuit will also lead to full inefficiency of the generator. As you can see the most "wild" to the ears of novice "free energolyubov" Don remarks on the principle of operation of the generator in learning more about becoming quite real. At least for me at the beginning of the study generator is all the contradicting statements of Don pledged knowledge are not taken for granted and perceived as not truthful. But the elegant building maintenance scheme with excellent clear on the purpose of engineering solutions, one bank of capacitors which is, has shown that this generator is in contrast to other mass must be working for with such refined technical solutions would never have been used in the chippie. That was confirmed in the future but not at the beginning of the study estimated the type of charge carriers.

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We continue on. Donald, studying the works of Tesla, has studied the properties of the cold current and the methods of its production and decided to swing by this current primary of the transformer (which he called insulating) to cause induction in the secondary winding of the transformer, which will be induced already required us to the current of electrons. When you understand the processes occurring interactions of a positive current and a cold electron current from the back emf induced current in the primary winding of the secondary Don derived formulas to calculate the frequency and output voltage of the secondary. Coordinate output voltage of the generator current of cold with the input transformer or converter by a cold current property very weakly interact with matter by using a voltage divider of resistors of high, which makes it very easy to connect to the source of the cold current of almost any trans or converter. The maximum cold current remains practically the same. The biggest mistake beginners in this field is viewing all possible variants of such generators with vdolblennogo us with school-the notion of a stream as a stream of electrons. In reality, as it turns out there is a current of positive particles. The faster you will acquire it more quickly get working BTG. (Beztoplivny generator).

A1 pumping standing electromagnetic wave with a high magnetic field strength at the positive polarization of L1 to break in time for the "pull" of the positive charges in the mode of resonance, and creating conditions in A2 by the compensation inductance L2 of the upper half for the induction of an electromagnetic wave in it with minimal loss of power Don has achieved the required strength of the magnetic field induced by the current wave of nodes in A2 to capture the positive charges. In a standing wave as we all know the form of voltage and current nodes, where the current and voltage almost pass by value in each other. Therefore, the current node at resonance is quite a powerful magnetic field. In essence, this powerful magnetic trap in a mode of resonance has a lot of "space" to capture particles. Connecting a bank of capacitors, designed by Don Charging a cold shock to the traveling wave regime to A2 (traveling wave is formed in agreement with the output impedance of the source-impedance load) Don received a transporter for a cold current in the form of a traveling wave in the A2 and the capacity for accumulation of power in the form of battery bank of capacitors C3, a traveling wave.

In zagashnikah site is working but there is also a flood zamylennye generators. 101 testatiki group of researchers to understand all this, and created his own version testatiki without disks. For the generation of data ihnim begins in excess to the TT, which is the basis konvergatorov, the threshold in the 3000V. On this threshold mentions dynatron. This threshold is shown in experiments on board the Don. Gray has also discharge the capacitor is charged up to 3000V. Ie splitting neutralized the radiant radiant electrons and the electron is in excess of the threshold potential in the surrounding environment, the work item.
For a more complete load carrier of the magnetic traps traveling wave in the cold shock A2, Don uses the same mechanism as in Gray: - positive polarization of the working body of a high voltage in the period and wave dorazryadny neutralized during the discharge, freeing positive particles charging in Gray mesh and a This generator - A2.

Scheme of the board with photos of a DC generator or a pulsed cold current (the organization of intermittent sparking process by modulating the source HV) with a current of 3A and above with an exact copy 8000v boards including the connection of the arrester. When connected to a spark gap Tesla output current of the diode at the output of A2 is increased to 20 - 30A. A simple show of voltage to the desired value by applying the relevant parts of the generator output power can be increased up to megawatts. The application of this scheme to pump through the gap of appropriate power isolation trance - even more. The potential of this scheme is amazing as well as the talent of its creator.
The layout of the scheme and selection of sites made by Don for maximum ease of assembly with minimal configuration for the generator manufacturing a simple man without any knowledge about the way his work so requires accuracy in copying.

In the manufacture of generator according to the principle - the fact that there is a need to adhere to the size and proportions of the installation and following rules.

1.Neonnik Bertoni as in the photo board in its parameters and circuit performance is ideal for connecting the arrester on the board as to Smith's "soft" double-pump coil. Circuitry and a job description for independent manufacturing neonnika will be filed at the end. Another type of neonniki not form the necessary impulses will not work. In the absence of such neonnika gap must be connected to the scheme Tesla: - neonnik - Diode - Capacitor - gap - the coil L1. Neonnik or other source of viral load in this case must provide for synchronous operation (operating at full capacity), operation at each pulse of power BH (neonnika) that requires more power from this source up to 150 - 200 watts and voltage of 3500v and above depending of type of your calculations to charge C1 0.2 microfarads to the breakdown voltage of a single pulse. Otherwise, the instability of the discharge lead to large fluctuations in output voltage or pulse output with a frequency of discharges.

2. Arrester is better to use gas-filled lightning, designed for high current and voltage providing a specified output voltage. In his absence make adjustable air gap from the fact that there is a connection given the large stranded wire coil L1 directly to the conclusion of the arrester. The breakdown voltage in the air on the found data about 1Q to 1mm gap. To improve the stability of the discharge, use invented my way around the location of the discharge gap discharge lamp with one or two sides. Also for the stability of the discharge electrodes should have the greatest possible radius.

3. The wire from which the L1 is made to be stranded (primary tube 5 to 50 turns (chosen at setup) litz wires 50 enameled wire of 0.5 mm.
Secondary housing, air, 75mm 2x16 turns of 2mm pitch 5mm) and have a maximum conductor cross-section (optimal for the board 3 mm) allows your design to excite the most powerful standing electromagnetic wave (with the length of the wire A2 = 8m, the frequency is 37.5 MHz). The studies were conducted only with the recommended ratio of the lengths L1 to L2 as a 1 \ 4. L1 is the length of wire with the connecting wire to the junction with the C1 and the wire must be continuous with no joints and ration to avoid reflections of the wave.

4. Capacitors C1 IS2 apply not only to set up a resonance L1S1 and A2-1S2 (crushed concrete from large imbalances of capacity and inductance to eliminate vibration at the resonance frequency) at a frequency of the seventh harmonic (210kgts,) on the frequency of power BH (30kHz), which is not used only to improve the inductive coupling between coils, but for the fullest compensation reactance katushekL1 and A2 for a smooth passage through them of an electromagnetic wave with a frequency of 37.5 MHz. Without such compensation the same way you get a standing wave, but the density wave electric field is not electromagnetic with the corresponding result.

Therefore, capacitors must be calculated on the operating frequency. Otherwise the momentum will lose a lot of power for the induction of A2. that is expressed in a squalid charge C3.

5. Remember one of the main rules in the performance of this device: - chained pump standing electromagnetic wave in the coil L1 and L2 excluded any reverse current as a quenching in varying degrees, the generation of energy up to a full stop it. The use of equalization resistors on the chain of diodes is not set, nor desirable, and long chain of diodes. It is better to connect them in parallel as the Don but not consistently. If you Teslovskom chain performance gap you have any noticeable fluctuations in A2 frequency 210kgts of the significant increase in power of the spark you need to shunt damper diodes both polukatushki A2.

6. Diodes in the respective circuits to withstand a minimum of two times of the rated voltage overload, and preferably radio frequency. Diodes used in a small footprint. Like Don. For example the length of the line common to 1000V Diode in a 25-30kv line will be about 50cm. Not only that, this will make a substantial length of the mismatch between the A2 and C3, the bank, but will disperse into the environment most of the trapped magnetic traps radiant traveling wave of the weakening of rassoglasovki for these traps. Just when the diode at a constant current of cold continuous frequency properties fade into the background. And no equalization resistors for the cold current is a fault. Experiment someone diodes in excess.

7. Bank of capacitors C3 must be installed in the form and proportions as in the photographs in compliance with the lengths of the wires from the coil to a bank and between the capacitors of the bank, this will depend on the degree soglasovki A2 and C3.
Its design concept shows the organization of the bank charging capacitor C3 in the mode of traveling electromagnetic waves is possible with the full input resistance soglasovke C3 impedance A2. For traveling wave capacitors bank really connected in series. Without all the equipment in detail why not explore in detail describe this process as long as I can not.
All lengths of connecting wires from A2 to the output pad to expose the proportions of the photo. It seems that after C3 length of connecting wires should not play a role as radiant in the capacitor is electrically connected with the charge of another plate Conder but better to be safe. Critical length of the wires I did not check.

8. A very important role in the stability of the amplitude of the electromagnetic wave is the output choke, or rather the quality of its performance for the operating frequency (37.5 MHz - I). It must reflect the maximum wave energy must therefore be made by all the canons of manufacture of such reactors at such high frequency and output current on the principle of minimum interturn capacity - a maximum inductance. Otherwise, the amplitude of the waves in A2 will depend on the load with the consequences. Judging from the photo choke diameter 35-40mm, width 20mm winding, 6 layers with 10 turns, wire diameter 1-2mm.

9. When you connect the output (isolation) trance directly to the output terminals with an appropriate input voltage and power with a simple modulation of meander ext. generator with a frequency source network BH (neonnika) you will get the output square wave AC 50 Hz. This will provide an opportunity to get rid of the inverter and battery after variaka. Generator output behaves like Don said: the battery with constant charge. This board is the most versatile for use, so many loads of connectivity options, including quite exotic at first glance, the options with resistive dividers. As you can see in this generator, all calibrated, subtly and gracefully done. Well done GREAT CARPENTER DONALD SMITH!

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The principle of increasing the capacity of electrical generators in the movements of the Don.

Take for example the battery to 12V and a capacity sufficient for operating the source at the HV generator start time. Making or buying power, respectively, HV circuit including a spark gap and operating
in our case at the frequency 30kHz. According Donovskim arguments for increasing the voltage oscillation power fluctuations increases quadratically, as well as with increasing frequency. Therefore, increasing the voltage fluctuations HV source with roughly 12c do2400v swinging and oscillating circuit to the voltage corresponding to the power performance, we will have the power of these oscillations in the ideal of 40,000 times greater than 12 volts. By increasing the frequency of such a 30kHz to 30MHz (for ease of calculation), ideally we will have more power fluctuations still a million times. But this is an ideal. In reality, these coefficients decrease sharply due to a number of reasons but remained as we see enough to spare. To increase the tension Don uses a high voltage primary waves with a frequency around 30 kHz (or rather 210kgts, but more on that later). For frequency conversion from 30kHz to 37.5 MHz so even with the increase in capacity is used spark gap. The basis of the generator Don got the idea of ​​Tesla's patents on the feeding of electricity consumers with increasing power output through the spark gap, including the usual network of transformers while providing a pulsating current flow through the gap and the load in one direction at a complete elimination of the reverse currents. Here I say: Well done GREAT MASTER TESLA!

Frequency conversion to 37.5 MHz and the resonance pumping up the voltage arrester constrained due to the way in turn is a quarter wave piece of wire coil L1. This is a quarter wave resonance (for a better understanding - unipolar) electromagnetic standing wave pumped by a sharp edge of the pulse with the protector. To reduce losses in the coil L1 from the large reactance at such a high frequency is used as a compensator reactance capacitor C1 (and not to the pump resonance 210 MHz mussiruemogo sites for disposal to the side). So from its high-frequency parameters depends on the quality of compensation and thus the quarter-power vibration resonance. Take this seriously because it is the foundation of the power generator. No wonder Don calls a bunch of S1L1 reactor. The same requirements and the capacitor compensation reactance coils A2 - C2. Not complied with this requirement will make the job of the generator is not as powerful as a battery hrenovenkoy batteries. Since the electromagnetic standing wave in contrast to the electrostatic component has a magnetic coil that is in A2 so even with a large inductive reactance compensated induced current. Singles C1 at teslovskom connect to charge the battery C3 entry of. Pulse at the output of an isolating trans load was 170 ohms at 600 volts amplitude and duration is almost identical to the width that is above and below is equal to 1 \ 10 periods of 50 Hz, which is many times larger than the pulse discharge most likely due to the decay time of the standing wave . So do not forget about the form of the output current to be issued to the generator, and the harmonization of the input isolation trans. Take measures to avoid overloading the output winding of the insulating power of trance, trance or your insulation will burn a blue flame from the data generator for generating a cold current of high power. Dimensions of the coils: R1 - 4vitka on plastic pipe 50mm diameter core - 3mm, stranded. L2 - 40 turns of wire diameter 2.5 - 3 mm, winding length of 25 cm, diameter reel - 75mm. A2 wire is cut in the center of the coil unrolling on either side of two turns and is connected to the terminal block. Connected to the same ground and that part of the scheme. Lengths of A1 and A2 are from the terminal block and correspond to a 4. Measure accurately. Current circuits: 1) Battery - neonnik. 2) secondary housing trance neonnika BB - P1. 3) A2 - Bank of C3. 4) Bank of C3 - loading or self-trance. 5) The output winding insulation of trance - the load. Gap arrester should provide estimates on 8000v C3. Details and components of the generator have a few appointments so maybe there is not our rolls. Set what should be or with the same parameters. Isolation trances connect with compensating capacitors as in other patents of the author. Donovskie calculations and the theory of the Internet is so abundant here do not bring it.

My box nikradik@meta.ua, If anyone has an interest to fund such research and development as generators of various capacities and sizes, and motor-wheels and much more on this subject for the production including anti-gravity submit proposals well in PM. Nicky forums nik11, grafit, nikolai. This information is open to any use other than patenting. The generation mechanism is declared me my intellectual property only to protect against woodpeckers, patentovateley, for that which is vital for the survival of humanity can not be patented and because of this is derived from mass use. In Ukraine, a small company officially releases electromechanical generators with capacities of 1 kW, 10kW, 100kW with an initial start-up from a small battery. In Russia too there are similar developments. But they are difficult for home-made. Donovskie development easier, and safer, and more powerful. Considered here, too, Don generator is quite difficult to manufacture because of the specific ratings of capacitors and diodes in such a large voltage, the acquisition of suitable neonnika. But if you can buy everything you need then this generator is what you need for the house and not only for the home. At the Don is more simple to manufacture and the details of the generator. That it applies where the ignition coil. Is made, check it, lay out the result.
Don came up with a great way to induction of the longitudinal electromagnetic wave in the secondary with a large inductance with the coil inductance compensation capacitor of large capacity. What reduces the reactance compensated for the induction coil in its longitudinal electromagnetic waves. Therefore, we can and make the TT such a method to issue the energy is driven into the secondary electromagnetic wave and either directly or through an additional coil removal remove her energy. Dynatron see and do. We also have a Smith.

Experimentation with opposing coils and bifilyarami showed in contrast to the secure version of the coils Donovskogo really harmful to the health of some types of winding, forming a vortex fields like energy centers of biological objects. Bought into the simplicity of Romankorpovskogo option, but "teacher" members of the forum memorized as a fiddler on a method so do not tell you how, then do not say that and that's what you've done before now and nafig no need to do differently instead of a simple and clear explanation of the main parts manufacturing - inductor coil connection and pairing. Thing is. And now is the "doctrine" is not on the initial hundreds of kilowatts and the withdrawal of the TT 200-300W, but this already has enough on the Internet. Although the method of generating interesting and easy it is possible for work. Choose a time to try to understand. Remembered Romankorpovskih "exercises" because no good sorry wasted time. Although in fairness say exploring different bifilyary several enlarged their knowledge that in the future prove useful in the manufacture of gravitsapy.

Fig1. circuit board with a split coil Dona additional damper diodes.
http://hamwaves.com/antennas/inductance.html
Coil Dimensions
For anyone that missed it, Don didn't realize the antenna was the missing component needed for a self-sustaining instead of high efficiency device.

Bruce disclosed this back in March 2012.
Filter is diode
Filter is diode
Find on YouTube .. there are more of Romero
quenching Spark Gap

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@zilano:
didnt u once say serial spark gap wont give overunity? Cause in ur newest drawings u have it serial?
Or I misunderstood u there?
Or parallel spark is only for conversion from cold to hot after charge cap?

Kind regards
yes only for cold to hot conversion. just follow the don bertonee way of connecting primary then u will have less problems in secondary side.

rgds ZZZ