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PR-STV

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Candidate-based systems will encourage politicians to cultivate personal support (perhaps not on the basis of policy)

This is a big issue in Ireland Type of parliamentarian These are the effects of the electoral system in converting votes to seats

Different systems deliver different results even with the same votes Mechanical effects Number of parties
Type of government (single party versus coalition)
Who gets elected (the type of parliamentarian) Effects Proportional and candidate based
Allows (almost) completely sincere voting
Non-monotonicity
Needs small constituencies to be practical, reducing proportionality
Removes party elite power Some advantages and disadvantages Turnout: 69.5%      Total Valid Poll: 40,431     Seats: 3    Quota: 10,108  Electorate: 58,712 Some systems encourage different types of people to run, and hence may have an effect on the policy-making process
Does the ballot structure only allow parties to run? Ballot structure Related to the mechanical effects, are the psychological effect of electoral systems
This happens because actors (candidates, parties and voters) know about the mechanical effects
This is more difficult to gauge the strength of, but most certainly comes into play Psychological Effects States that “the simple majority single-ballot system favours the two-party system…and proportional representation favours multipartism” (1951) Duverger’s Law Turnout: 69.5%      Total Valid Poll: 40,431     Seats: 3    Quota: 10,108  Electorate: 58,712 Turnout: 69.5%      Total Valid Poll: 40,431     Seats: 3    Quota: 10,108   Limerick West 2007 Turnout: 69.5%      Total Valid Poll: 40,431     Seats: 3     Electorate: 58,712 If they can do it… Single Transferable Vote Do parties receive other advantages from forming parties?, such as,
Extra parliamentary time/ rights
More state funding
Are there high electoral costs?

Why run as an independent? Other factors Eoin O’Malley The Irish electoral system: PR-STV Position paper - due in class tomorrow. You have been approached by an international consultancy firm interested in assessing the long term stability of Ireland. They've asked you to write a short report addressing the following question:
What is the likelihood of a left-wing government in Ireland?
In considering this they are also interested in social and industrial unrest, the probability of Ireland re-entering bond markets, achieving the EU debt limits etc. Tuesday, 29 April 1969
Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 240 No. 1
Mr. O'Connor: asked the Minister for Finance when the boring survey will be carried out in Cahirciveen harbour for the general improvement of berthing facilities at the pier in Cahirciveen which are urgently needed as two new trawlers will be working out of this harbour before the end of the year and two next year.

HC Deb 06 July 1893 vol 14 c972 972
§MR. KILBRIDE I beg to ask the Chief Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland whether the Congested Districts Board have decided on erecting a pier at Corscroom, near Cahirciveen; when the decision was arrived at; and what is the cause of the delay in commencing the work? HC Deb 25 July 1898 vol 62 cc1155-6 1155
§MR. PATRICK O'BRIEN (Kilkenny) On behalf of the honourable Member for the St. Patrick Division of Dublin I beg to ask the Chief Secretary to the Lord 1156 Lieutenant of Ireland whether he is aware that an application was made to the Congested Districts Board by the Great Southern and Western Railway Company to build a pier at Renard Point, near Cahirciveen; that negotiations have been going on since the railway was opened; and that the railway company offered a substantial amount towards the completion of the pier; and whether the Government will give a grant in aid for this work, seeing that there is no accommodation for the deep sea fishing boats for landing their takes at a place where railway transit is available?
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