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White's study opens a study of the relation between systems theory and narrative with an anectode of a man who once memorized the entire list of guests at Jay Gatsby's party. (Susan E. Gunter)
To-Do list, Sasha Cagen

Umberto Eco-The Infinity of Lists
Is a list just a thing of the modern time? Or can we trace it back to ancient times?
"topos of ineffability
Dante, Canto XXIX of the
Paradise

The Chatto Book of Cabbages and Kings, Francis Spufford
"They represent the brain on the page, in its most raw form. They are not only reflections of our mind states, they're also often tools for action and decision making" (Cagen 1)
The list by Robert E. Belknap
"The Secret" by Rhonda Byrne
Cagen states that writing a list "it's a way of letting the universe know what you want, whether its a new belt or a new husband" (Cagen 6)
Listing/Lists/To-Do List... what do they really reveal?


By: Marianela Soto
Vanessa Elie
Dennisse Marrero
Melissa Morales

Lists probably found their first particular use in epics (Spufford 8)
Lists consisting of sequential signs appear as early as 32000 B.C. and mark the distant origin of a means of communication that will develop into written language. (Belknap 8)
Homer presented what has been called "topos of ineffability"
: "faced with something that is immensely large or unknown, of which we still do not know enough or of which we shall never know, the author proposes a list as a specimen, example, or indication, leaving the reader to imagine the rest" (Eco 49)
For example, an artist can only draw a certain amount of people in a picture but the intend can be to illustrate an infinite number of people.
A poet may use a list or catalog in his/her literary work(s)
In Canto XXIX of the Paradise we find an example of "topos of ineffability" because the number of angels exceeds the possibilities of the human mind" (Eco 50)
Thus, listing/lists are not just a thing of the modern times

Artists and poets (such as Dante & Homer) have used lists/listing in their great works

It is use as a mean to convey
their
perception

A list allows the artist or poet to illustrate as much as they are allow in a painting or book but it is up to the viewer/reader to imagine the rest
Can we conclude that a to-do list represents our internal desires, needs, wishes...?
"our to-do list are like diaries" (Cagen 1 )
Our to-do lists reveal not just our grocery list but our most intimate desires
To-do lists help us prioritize our goals
To-do lists create organization
To-do lists holds us "accountable" for the things we need to do
Done things on our to-do list can make us feel accomplished
Our to-do list helps us envision the things we want and the individual we want to become
In the book "The Secret" we encountered a similar attitude as in Cagen's reading "To-Do List"

For example:

Lisa Nicholas states
"the first step is to ask. Make a command to the Universe. let the Universe know what you want. The Universe responds to your thoughts" (51)


Bob Proctor states
"What do you really want? Sit down and write it out on a piece of paper. Write it in the present tense. You might begin by writing, "I am so happy and grateful now that..." And then explain how you want your life to be, in every area." (51)

The Secret by Rhonda Byrne
"So finding a list in a book or a poem is an immediate reminder of the most obvious difference between literature and every other kind of non-performing art: literature is made out of something, language, that is an everyday stuff".

(Spufford pg 2)

Essentially, literature is language and we use words to describe the things we are thinking and want to say
In opposed to literature, lists tend to separate or leave separated its core substance. Lists are only a literary form by extension because they are ordinary.
The difference between literature and non-performing art? Literature is made out of something, language, everyday stuff.
Lists refuse the connecting powers of language in favor of a sequence of disconnected elements (Spufford 8).

Lists congregate in the kinds of writing that exemplify one or the other of the two poles of activity and passivity straightforward in highly determined works and in delicately impressionistic ones, in works organized by a compulsion to note minute (Spufford 5).
Are lists part of literature?
What do our lists say about us?
"42% of us make to-do lists" (Cagen 5)
We already know we can see our: desires and goals we have accomplished.
More than seeing this we can see:
-what a person does with their daily lives
-where they came from
-what habits they have
-what they tend to not accomplish, yet always rewrite
Exhibition in our lists...
"I was often stunned by the rawness of the confessions." (
Cagen 5
)
Our lists truly are our modern day diaries!
Why, you might ask?
- it is easier and more convenient to make a list
- we aren't aware that our list reveals more about us than we know
- most of us make lists daily (Hence, making it a diary in a different format)
Sasha Cagen
Another example is in Pannini's
picture galleries
: "they are not intended to present merely what is shown but also the rest of the (indefinitely large) collection of which they are only an example" (Eco 39)
Dante
Pannini's
picture galleries
Homer
To Create or Read? Belknap suggests that reading another person's list could be more exciting than creating our own
"Lists are personal constructions that invite different interpretations from different readers" (Belknap XV)
A list is a device that writers have employed in their works
For example, Walt Whitman, An American poet is considered to be a great lister
It is up to the writer to employ the list in an organize or random way in their literary works
How is a list different from a catalogue?
A list presents a simple series of units whereas a catalogue conveys more information.
The positive effects of lists:

character emerging from the minute process agglomeration, as language reaches out in the simplest way to the group of objects to which the list -- maker stands in the revealing relation of ownership (Spufford 2).
giving incidental info about their theologies in their choice of words for the most important bequest of all -- of their souls to God (Spufford 3).
lists are unforgettable. The material put into the list tends to stick with the individual composing the list since it is usually a shorthand method of a lump sum of content.
Lists congregate in the kinds of writing that exemplify one or the other of the two poles of activity and passivity straightforward in highly determined works and in delicately impressionistic ones, in works organized by a compulsion to note minutely.
List have so much flexibility that they don't follow a specific form.

EXAMPLES OF LIST TYPES:
List of symptoms
List of examples
List of items
Each use, each possibility, changes or adjusts the nature of the elements in lists, assigns them a particular way of being parts of a whole (Spufford 7).
Lists probably found their first particular use in epics (Spufford 7).

Epics are authority-filled works. Epic lists could also speak of, and act on, the loyalties of an audience (Spufford 7).

List of names are unsaid especial when the name itself does the speaking in the list.
Patti White
Gatsby's Party also illustrates how post-structuralist theory can be incorporated with critical theories that seem at odds with the post structural theory, structuralism and narratology. (Susan E. Gunter)
Gatsby's Party also illustrates how post-structuralist theory can be incorporated with critical theories that seem at odds with the post structural theory, structuralism and narratology. (Susan E. Gunter)
The written list, characterized by a physical location and multi-directional legibility, and precise boundaries, lends itself to categorical and other ordering process. (White, 106)
White also mentions that "Goody assumes that oral cultures will not depend heavily on lists for information coding." She says that "he also argues that lists do not flourish as mental constructions until written culture offers them stability and utility which oral culture cannot provide." (White, 105)
The grocery list and restaurant menu will never be thought of in the same way again. (Gunter, 271)
Gatsby's Party: The System and the List in Contemporary Narrative
by Patti White
White examines, in alternating chapters specific aspects of systems theory and then shows how the list can function as the means by which systems theory can contribute to a new understanding of narrative, (Susan E. Gunter)
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