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Catcher in the Rye: Chapter 17

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kaitlin kazmer

on 28 March 2015

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Transcript of Catcher in the Rye: Chapter 17

Holden- Major
Harris Macklin- Minor (mentioned)
Sally Hayes- Major
Alfred Lunt- Minor
Lynne Fontanne- Minor
Ernie- Minor (mentioned)
"George or Something"- Minor
Jeannette Cultz- Minor
Meeting at the Biltmore for their date, Holden waits for Sally, who is running late. She arrives, looking terrific and her and forgiving Holden make their way to the show to see "The Lunts" which is just another show that Holden finds phony. After the show their date transitions to ice skating, and the two go and get a drink at a nearby bar. Holden begins venting about everything he hates, resulting in him asking Sally to run away with him. Playing by the rules of life, Sally refuses, infuriating Holden and the date ends on bad terms.
General: New York City

Specific: 2:00 in the afternoon on Sunday- The Baltimore- theater-
Radio City ice skating rink- bar at Radio City near the rink
Holden's Mood Swings
Represents that Holden may have a darker past than anticipated. This also demonstrates that Holden is an unreliable narrator due to his unstable emotions.
Catcher in the Rye: Chapter 17
Represents everything Holden hates and also his hypocrisy. Sally is always late, obnoxiously loud, phony, but yet Holden asks her on a date. Holden previously describes his disgust towards Stradlaters disrespect towards females and also people being late. Yet when Sally arrives 10 minutes late, he doesn't care due to her looks.
The Lunts

Symbolizes Holden's his hatred for phonies and pretending to be something your not. The actors/ characters seem self- confident and comfortable, causing Holden to be uncomfortable.
Running Away

Represents Holden's desperation to reject society surrounding him.
Represents not wanting to grow up. Holden doesn't feel comfortable with becoming an adult and fears becoming everything he hates.
Holden himself is phony throughout the chapter
'I sort of hated old Sally by the time we got in the cab after listening to that phony Andrew bastard for about ten hours,' (pg.128)
Still says yes to go ice skating:
"Sure. If you want to," (pg. 128)
Madness/ Depression
Holden's first real attempt to connect with a girl, his emotions become unstable and he senses he is losing control
hate it. Boy do I hate it," I said. "But it isn't just that it's everything."'
'I probably wouldn't've taken her even if she'd wanted to go with me...The terrible part, though, is that I
it when I asked her. That's the terrible part. I swear to God I'm a madman,' (pg. 134)
Childhood/ Growing Up
Nothing will be the same after growing up
Sally reacts realistically to Holden's fantasy of escape of society. She is playing by the rules of life, infuriating Holden.
"...There wouldn't be marvelous places to go to after college and all. Open your ears. It'd be entirely different...and I'd be working in some office, making a lot of dough, and riding to work in cabs and Madison Avenue buses, and reading newspapers, and playing bridges all the time, and going to the movies and seeing a lot of stupid shorts and coming attractions and newsreels... It wouldn't be the same at all," (pg. 133)
Stream of Consciousness
"All that crap they have in cartoons in the Sunday Evening Post and all showing guys on street corners looking sore as hell because their dates are late," (pg. 123)
use of swear words

"...That's bunk," (pg. 125)
use of slang
"You should've seen the way they said hello," (pg 127)
conversational tone
Protagonists Motivation
Holden wanted to rid his feeling of loneliness by inviting Sally Hayes, who he doesn't even really like, on a date.
Fears becoming everything he hates and growing up. This motivates Holden to ask Sally to run away, get married and live their lives secluded from society.
Sally realistically rejecting Holden and playing by the rules of life, motivates Holden's frustration and anger and he says to Sally "You give me a royal pain in the ass, if you want to know the truth," (pg. 133).
[slang] any remarkable or outstanding person or thing
a sightseer; an extremely curious person
a short motion picture presenting current or recent events
someone who is bored with the pleasures of life because of frequent indulgence or exposure.
[informal] staring around, gawking
Post Reading
1. Will Holden and Sally ever going to make up?
2. Why does Holden constantly say things he doesn't mean?
3. What has happened in Holden's past that has helped develop him into a "madman"?
4. What makes Holden hate society to the point of running away?
5. What makes Holden even bring up everything he hates to Sally, and creating the argument?
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