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Aidan McMichael
Issue 66 - May 2022
Issue 67 - October 2022
Question
..."WHITE STAR LINE's Ghost Ship..."
SDTUERYUYJ
Titanic Together
Georgic 1895 [293]
Specification
Cevic 1893 [270]
Class
Specification
Bovic 1892 [252]
AGM
Vote of thanks
- Committee
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- Co Chair
- President
All roles will roll forward for another year
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THANK YOU FOR SUPPORT!
See you in Sept - hybrid approach jointly with PRONI
Maritime Belfast festival
Talks: October - December
The
Bottles
BOTTLE MESSAGE ONE
Then the mystery begins. On March 3, 1893, twenty days after her Liverpool departure, a bottle washes up on the shores of Bay Ridge, New York Bay. A man named William Clare spotted an old yellow bottle stamped John Hagg 113th St NY, NY on its bottom. He noticed a piece of paper inside that turned out to be a torn page from a book. Scribbled on the page were the words:
"Feb. 19, 1893- Naronic sinking. All hands praying. God have mercy on us." The message was signed "L. Winsel." Could this "L. Winsel" have been John L. Watson, crew member?
Clare gave the bottle to a Bay Ridge police captain named Kenny (of the 18th precinct) and never heard about it again.
The message ended or was signed "T" The Closest match here is William Tobin, Cattleman or Christopher Tesch, crew member.
BOTTLE MESSAGE TWO
On March 30, 1893, at a summer resort at Ocean View Virginia, a night watchman named William Johnson found a champagne bottle on the beach that had several corks tied around its neck. A message inside read:
"3:10 AM Feb.19. SS Naronic at sea. To who picks this up: report when you find this to our agents if not heard of before, that our ship is sinking fast beneath the waves. It's such a storm that we can never live in the small boats. One boat has already gone with her human cargo below. God let all of us live through this. We were stuck by an iceberg in a blinding snowstorm and floated two hours. Now it's 3:20 AM by my watch and the great ship is dead level with the sea. Report to the agents at Broadway, New New York, M. Kersey & Company. Goodby all."
The message is signed, "John Olsen, Cattleman." There is no Olsen on the passenger or crew list list. The closest names to "John Olsen" would be John Watson and John O'Hara, both Cattlemen.
BOTTLE MESSAGE THREE
In June, 1893 a boatman in the Irish channel found a bottle bobbing up down in the water against the bank. A message found in the bottle read:
"Stuck iceberg: sinking fast: Naronic
The message is simply signed: "Young" There is no" Young" on the passenger or crew list.
BOTTLE MESSAGE FOUR
On September 18, 1893 the London Times (named The Times in 1893) reported a 4th bottle found floating in the Mersey River. Written on two thin slips of wool were the words:
"All hands lost; Naronic; No time to say more....T"
Life details
Life
DISASTERS OF THE WHITE STAR LINE
1873 Atlantic lost near Halifax NS, 585 lives.
1893 Naronic lost mid Atlantic, 74 lives
1907 Suevic ran aground off England, but in the largest rescue 456 passengers and 141 crew members were rescued. .
1909 Republic 4 lives
1911 Olympic collision with the warship Hawke in the Solent
1912 Titanic lost after colliding with an iceberg, 1,502 lost
1915 Arabic (II) torpedoed off the Old Head of Kinsale Ireland 44 lives
1915 HMHS Britannic, lost after striking a mine in the Kea Channel off Greece.21 lives
1915 Ionic narrowly missed by a German torpedo in Mediterranean
1915 former Germanic (then in service as a Turkish troop transport) was torpedoed by the British Submarine E-14.
1916 Ceramic narrowly missed by two torpedoes from unidentified U-boat in Mediterranean
1916 Cymric torpedoed 3 times and sunk by U-20 - 5 lives.
1917 Laurentic (I) stuck two mines laid by German submarine U-80 and sank 354 lives.
1917 Afric was torpedoed and sunk by the German coastal minelayer sub, UC-66, in English Channel, 22 lives
1917 Ceramic was narrowly missed by one torpedo from unidentified U-boat in English Channel.
1917 Delphic was torpedoed 135 miles off Bishop Rock by German U-boat UC-72 and sank 5 lives
1918 Justicia (owned by the British Government and managed by White Star) torpedoed twice by U-46 but she remained afloat. Later in the same day, she was torpedoed two more times by U-46 and again managed to stay afloat. In the next morning, she was tow by HMS Sonia, she was torpedoed two more times by U-124 and she finally sank, 16 lives.
1918 Persic torpedoed by U-87 off of the Scilly Islands
1918 Olympic she rammed and sank the U-boat U-103 which had tried, and failed, to torpedo her. I
1917 Celtic mined laid by U-88 near Cobh, Ireland, 17 lives
1934 Olympic while steaming in fog she rammed the Lightship Nantucket, sinking it 7 lives
1940 Runic (II) the Norwegian whale factory New Sevillla) was torpedoed and sunk by U-138 off of the Irish coast 2 lives.
1940 Laurentic (II) torpedoed and sunk by U-99 off Northern Ireland 49 lives.
1942 Zealandic (by then owned by Shaw, Saville and Albion and in service as a dummy aircraft carrier) was torpedoed and sunk by U-106 after going aground off of Cromer, England 73 lives
1942 Medic (by then the Norwegian whale factory Hektoria) torpedoed and sunk in North Atlantic Ocean by U-608 12 lives.
1942 Athenic (by then the Norwegian whaling ship Pelagos) torpedoed two times and sunk by U-69 4 lives
1942 Ceramic (by then owned by Shaw, Saville and Albion) was torpedoed three times and sunk by U-515 656 lives
Shipping losses North Atlantic
February losses 1856 -1902 N Atlantic
February,1856, the SS Pacific sails from Liverpool for New York, carrying 351 passengers & crew disappears without a trace.
February,1896, the SS State of Georgia, sails from Aberdeen to Boston carrying 185 passengers & crew disappears without a trace.
February,1899, the SS Alleghany, sails from New York for Dover; carrying 221 passengers & crew disappears without a trace.
February,1902, the SS Huronian, sails from Liverpool for St. John's --carrying 366 passengers & crew disappears without a trace.
Anarchist - explosives - US Alibi
Captain of the White Star Liner Runic told a Liverpool newspaper reporter that it was possible that one of Naronic's engines could have malfunctioned resulting in a piston being shot down through her hull that would in-turn result in her sinking almost immediately!
No debris wreckage - there would have been a lot of wreckage in an explosion - GESSLER ROSSEAU, the dynamiter
A contributory factor? There were reports of ice
Ice Berg
What did happen Naronic?
Hurricane
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE NARONIC
Titanic Whitestarships.com
"Allen liner Pomeranian - 4th March ...run into hurricane which carried away her bridge and chart-house, swept ten people over the side and injured the captain and one of the passengers "
Not hurricane season - a storm?? Was she top heavy? Was she carrying explosive materials?
Lifeboats
Why only 2 lifeboats found? No bodies found...oar position
Inquiry dismissed the bottles - names don't match manifest (mistakes).
Bottles