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Agnostic...?

Point 3: Hick's Resurrected People

Point 1: Pascal's Wager

If you believe in God, and he does exist, you'll go to heaven. If you don't believe in God, and he does exist, you'll be sent to hell.

If you believe God exists and he doesn't, no harm is done, if you don't believe God exists and he doesn't, no harm is done either.

Only the person who was resurrected or sent to heaven will know that they have been resurrected or sent elsewhere. Only they will know whether God exists or not. They cannot prove it to other people just as other people cannot prove or disprove God to them.

Since there is nothing to lose, we might as well believe in God but this argument does not really sway me into believing that God exists as it just simply states that there's nothing to lose in believing that God exists, it does not show proof of God really existing

Point 2: Rowe's Fawn

There was a forest fire and a fawn suffers needlessly for three days before dying. If the fawn is neutral, why didn't God save it?

If there is a God and he created our world, he would not allow pain and suffering yet why did God not save the fawn?

Reason one is that there may be a consequence in saving the fawn whether the consequence is good or evil.

Therefore we still don't know if there is a God or not. There could be a God but pain, evil, and suffering still exists or there could be no God at all.

Reason two is that it interferes with free will. Our choices brings our consequences, whether the consequences are good or bad, it is our choices that brings it. If God were to interfere, there would be no free will.

God Does Not Exist...?

God Does Exist...?

Gaunilo's Lost Island

Point 1: Berkeley's Theory of Idealism

Point 4: The Ontological Argument

Berkeley believed that ideas are ultimately real and that nothing exists until it is perceived, therefore, God is constantly perceiving what we consider reality. Our reality exists as ideas in the mind of God.

Imagine the perfect island, the greatest there is. Since it is the greatest island, it therefore has to exist in reality. But no such island will appear by simply having someone imagine it.

Existence in reality is greater than existence in the mind alone. If we say that God exists in the mind but not reality, that would not make sense as God is the greatest being, there should be no other being greater than God himself that exists therefore God has to exist in reality.

The Ontological Argument made sense when first described but once you change the concept of it being God and into a simple everyday object or an island in this case, it no longer makes sense. No such island would appear in reality if we simply imagine it in our minds. Since it is supposed to be the greatest island, it should exist but it does not. Why would God, the greatest being, exist when we imagine him in our minds but not the island then? Therefore, God does not exist

Point 2: The Cosmological Proof of God

Point 3: Paley's Watch

- Potentiality is only moved by actuality, there has to be a First Mover to make chain reactions.

- Nothing can be the efficient cause of itself. No cause equals no effect. Therefore there must be a first cause, and uncaused cause; God.

- There are a finite number of objects but infinite amount of time. Over infinity, objects will cease to exist but they do exist, therefore there is a Necessary Being.

- There are different degrees of goodness and being, the one with the highest degree is God.

- All things have an arrangement, nothing is by chance. Everything is designed by a Divine Intelligence or Great Designer; God.

Someone or something must have created everything that we see and feel, there has to have been a way that brought things to where they are now. God created everything.

Both arguments 2 and 3 are similar, something or someone must have created the world and all the things in it. From what we know, God should be all knowing and everything. He should be the greatest being therefore it makes sense that he is the one that created everything.

Conclusion

With all the points laid out as to which one supports whether God exists or not I am still agnostic about whether or not God exists. Gaunilo's Lost Island countered the Ontological argument of God existing and while there are still more points proving that God should exist, I still feel like that is not enough proof to sway me into believing God does exist in our reality.

Does God Exist?

Does God Exist?

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