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Hi there.
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I'm Julie Hanson, and I'm so excited to talk to
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you about the 10 mistakes that I see sales people
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making on video today.
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But more importantly, I want to talk about the 10
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preventative measures you can take to avoid them and to
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come across as credible impactful to your customers and create
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meaningful conversations.
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So I have worked as a presentation skills coach and
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trainer for many years.
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But in addition to that, I worked as a professional
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actor, and it was there that I learned how to
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communicate on camera and some of those skills and techniques
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that are necessary to really connect with a virtual audience.
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And so many of those are what I'm gonna share
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with you today and from my selling on video masterclass.
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So let's dive in, shall we?
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Let's look at what it's really like to sell on
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video and why we need to change our skills Well,
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First of all, it's much like being in a performance
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on stage.
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When you're presenting live or you're having a live conversation,
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you get feedback from your audience, you get energy, you
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could see the reactions, and all of that is gone
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when you are on video.
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Oftentimes your customers and even on camera and when they
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are, they often are very passive and un expressive, So
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it's hard to tell what's going on.
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It's much more like being on the set of a
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film or television show where you've got a camera in
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your face like these actors here, and you have to
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bring that same type of energy you would if you
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were in person, but you don't have anyone to feed
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off of, and that creates a lot of mistakes.
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In addition, Thio just a lot of things that we
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haven't had to consider before, like how doe I frame
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myself, which is the first mistake I wanna point out.
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Many people are still struggling with getting just that right
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frame. You could see this poor gentleman here has what
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I call an extreme close up, which is not flattering
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for anyone, and it creates a very intrusive sort of
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presence, which could be a little off putting for customers.
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So we don't want that.
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You also don't want to be too far back so
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that you become just this little dot that your customer
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can sort of see the point of having video on
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is to be able to connect it for them to
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see your your eyes and your expression.
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So what you need to think about is getting in
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a medium close up, which is is what I'm in,
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which is where you know, from your chest or shoulders
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up. And then you've got about a fistful of space
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between you and the top of your frame any less
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than that.
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And you can kind of look like a floating head
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anymore. And you're just not using your your space very
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well. Uh, the second mistake I see being made is
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just not having decent lighting.
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It's so important.
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In fact, there's a saying in film that says no
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amount of makeup can make up for poor lighting, and
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that's absolutely the case.
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You can see this woman here looks like she's in
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a hostage video, and we don't want that.
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Uh, so the fix to that is to put your
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light in front of you.
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Always make sure you have that front facing light.
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Don't sit in front of a window and use natural
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light if at all possible.
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That's typically the best because it disperses more evenly.
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You'll need to fill in, probably with artificial light, even
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if you have a good natural light source.
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Because the lighting changes throughout the day and season to
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season, you'll probably need thio have some artificial light on
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hand just to compensate.
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A ring light is really great choice for lighting because
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it does a nice job of really lighting up your
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face. So the third mistake I see is using virtual
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backgrounds, and it's not in this a mistake entirely.
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If you have to use a virtual background, that's certainly
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understandable. But my preference and my suggestion to you is
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try to use a natural background and simply because those
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virtual backgrounds just magnified this idea that we're in this
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artificial environment and they're not actually sitting across from each
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other having a cup of coffee.
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They could be very distracting when you move.
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You've probably seen people who have body parts disappearing when
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they're using a green screen effect.
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Um, and it can create a negative sense of curiosity
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like, huh?
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I wonder what that person is hiding, So use them
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absolutely if they're necessary up for something simple on Dhe,
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not too far out there.
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Those things are there's a great fun backgrounds, and I
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would save those for you.
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No team calls or family calls, but think about your
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brand when you're on camera with a customer.
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The fourth mistake I see is what this gentleman is
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doing, and you've probably seen somebody do that a lot
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on video, right?
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He's looking at the screen, and you know, I'm a
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intellectually know that he's probably doing that.
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He probably thinks he's looking at me, but internally, it
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feels like he might be checking email, right?
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He might be waiting for a text.
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He might be looking at his notes.
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He might be bored, and this is what our customer
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is experiencing.
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That I contact on camera is so important.
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And the only way you can get that is by
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looking at the camera.
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I teach a technique that actors used to look at
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that camera on.
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I'll just give you some quick tips from that.
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But first of all, you can arrange those images underneath
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your cameras much as possible to make it a little
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easier to make eye contact.
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But likely they're not gonna match up just perfectly.
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So what?
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You can do.
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This is a quick version of this technique is Get
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that person's image in your mind very quickly and then
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project that onto the camera and just talk to that
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camera and try to imagine that that other person is
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on the other end of that.
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That's the only way that you can really create that
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kind of dynamic conversation.
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There's also a technique for reading body language while you're
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doing that, which we don't have time to go into.
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But there is, ah, way to keep this conversation dynamic
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and to keep that connection going with your customer by
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looking at the camera.
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Now, when you look at the camera, you want to
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try to finish your thoughts there.
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But I don't want you to do, is to be
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talking and then halfway through, kind of looked down and
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it drifts off.
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It just doesn't have the impact of saying something right
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to the camera and putting a period on it.
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All right, so we're at the fifth mistake I see,
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and that is confusing, this idea of being natural, which
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we all want to be natural on video, and that's
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a good impulse.
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We confuse that with being comfortable and well, this gentleman
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certainly is taking it a bit far.
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Um, when we strive for comfort, we often get a
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little too relaxed, and that just does not read well
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on camera.
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So while I don't want you to be uncomfortable, there
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is a certain amount of tension and energy we need
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to bring to video to connect with our audience.
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And we need to think about upping that energy because
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we're already sitting down most of us, which brings our
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energy down.
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The camera takes off a certain percentage of that energy,
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and then you may be sitting in your comfy chair,
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which makes it even easier to relax a little too
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much. So get energized.
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And you want to think about sitting up straight and
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then leaning forward ever so slightly.
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So it looks like you're just on the edge of
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your seat.
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You can't wait to have a conversation with this person.
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That's the type of energy.
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That's the type of natural tension you want to bring
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to a video call.
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All right, number six not using your hands now.
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I don't mean you have thio.
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Suddenly you sign language or anything, but what I mean,
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is a lot of times people have been told to
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not use their hands on video, so they spend the
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whole time all their energy trying not to use their
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hands sitting on them.
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And that is just bad advice.
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And I understand the impulse because too much hand movement
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can be very distracting.
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But hands for a lot of people is how we
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communicate, and it's where some of our energy comes from.
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So what you want to do is think about being
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very slow and purposeful with your movements, slowing them down
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and being very precise.
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And body movements of hand movements can use be used
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for things like, you know, emphasizing key points or physical
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izing. An idea like counting 123 you know how to
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count or we're going to take your sales from here
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to here, right?
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So look at places that you can physical eyes, certain
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ideas. They can also show excitement or emotion on dhe.
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They're good for separating ideas like we're going to do
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this and they're going to do that so it just
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it adds to the context of what you're saying.
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So don't try and not use your hands at all
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because that often is disastrous.
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All right, Number seven, something I call rbf or resting
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business face, which this gentleman here certainly has.
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You've seen this face on the other side of the
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video screen, right?
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Uh, it's a face that we often get up from
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our customers, and it's a very common face that people
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bring to a screen, and we can't control what our
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customer does, but we can't control what our face says.
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I would say if your face has nothing to say,
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why are you on video?
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Right. So you need to be aware of what your
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face is doing on video because it's right in front
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of your customer and it's taking up the real estate,
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and that's what they're gonna be looking at getting their
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cues from.
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So you want to think about, um, do I have
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something to smile about?
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Look for places to smile.
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A smile is so under used in business, and it
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really can make such a difference.
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So look for good news and make sure it's expressed
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not just in your words but on your face.
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Think about how you can use your expression to show
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how you feel about something right?
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Are you?
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Are you surprised?
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Are you excited?
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And you could also use it in active listening skills.
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Oftentimes, people listen with a very blank resting business face.
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Uh, and when we're in person, we get some energy,
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and we get some subtler accused from people that they're
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really paying attention.
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But we don't get that so much on a video
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call. So you need to be sure if your customer
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is saying something that's exciting or hard or challenging that
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your face has some kind of expression to it to
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make them feel heard.
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Number eight.
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And I think this is one that a lot of
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people don't realize you wanna.
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They're starting with slides on dhe.
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I know that's very typical for presentations.
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We've done it life for a long time, so we
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don't think twice about it.
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But what happens is I don't know if you can
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see in the corner there of that screen.
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There's a little tiny picture of a person, and that's
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all your customer is going to see initially.
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Is this tiny picture of you, and it's very hard
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to connect with a tiny picture or see your eyes
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or what's your face and you've got something on the
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screen that's going to draw their attention.
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So what you want to do is start full video.
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Uh, there was initial few seconds.
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Minutes with your customer are so important for establishing that
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connection. So make sure you're in full video and then
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go into your slides as needed and take opportunities to
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go back to full video when you can.
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And number nine.
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This is one that I've seen happen a lot on
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video, and that is salespeople speaking in monologues.
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It's just one long run on sentence after the other.
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Uh, not that that doesn't happen in life presentations, but
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it really is common in video.
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And that's because I think that people are not getting
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the feedback from their audience.
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They can't see the nonverbal feedback.
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They can't hear the little or the nuances that used
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to make them feel like.
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Okay, you know, I'm gonna get some reactions here I
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can play off of, and so it just becomes a
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filibuster of, you know, trying that Teoh not to pause
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because we're afraid that you know our audiences board because
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they have that resting business space.
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And so it's a race to the end.
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And guess what.
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If you talk like that the whole time you steamroll
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through it, they are going to be bored and they
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are going to be tuning out, so it becomes a
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self fulfilling prophecy.
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So what I suggest is that you speak with punctuation,
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and that means when you have a sentence that it
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comes to an end, use a period and stop when
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you have a list of things and you're using a
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comma pause between each one of those items.
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Allow space for that customer because otherwise, um, it's just
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gonna be very hard to watch.
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And then you're gonna lose their attention quickly.
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And number 10.
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Don't take advice from someone who has never worked professionally
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on camera.
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There's a lot of strange ideas out there about what
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to do, what not to do.
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Use your hands.
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Don't use your hands.
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Look here, Look there.
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Um, it's all going to be very confusing if you
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don't talk to someone who actually knows what works on
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camera and what the camera reads and what looks distracting
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to people and what your audience feels like on the
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other side on the receiving end of this conversation.
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So check your resource is just make sure you're getting
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it from a source that knows what they're talking about.
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Okay, so I would love to hear your questions.
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Your thoughts on video, please reach out.
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I'd love to stay connected.
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My email is Julie at acting for sales dot com.
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Or you can connect with me on LinkedIn at Julie
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Hansen Sales Training.
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Um, if you want some more information and tips, you
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can check out my selling on video master class at
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selling on dash video dot com.
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And at least make sure you are not committing these
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10 missed aches, and you will be far above many
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of your peers in that area, So good luck and
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good video.