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The Catcher in the Rye vs. Lord of the Flies

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Transcript of The Catcher in the Rye vs. Lord of the Flies

THE CATCHER IN THE RYE
VS.
LORD OF THE FLIES The Catcher in the Rye red hunting hat -vulnerable

powerful:
-independence
-confidence
-tough

-isolation
-embaressed The moment the hat becomes more powerful is when Phoebe takes Holden's hat and puts it on his head. Lord of the Flies conch shell powerful:
-groups boys together
-attention

-for everyone vs. The moment the conch becomes less powerful is when it breaks. The Catcher in the Rye vs. Lord of the Flies museum -stays the same
-fear of change mask -change behaviour
-wants change Holden does not like change; he likes the museum because it has not changed since he was a kid and he wants his life to be like the museum. Jack wants things to be changed. He creates a mask to change the way he is and the way the island is. The Catcher in the Rye vs. Lord of the Flies the catcher in the rye -save children
-innocence beast -children are the beast
-not innocent Holden wants to keep all of the children innocent, running on the field of rye; he wants to catch them if they fall. Jack is getting the worst out of the boys; he has helped contribute to their loss of innocence. Important quotes "The best thing, though, in that museum was that everything always stayed right where it was. Nobody’d move. . . . Nobody’d be different. The only thing that would be different would be you." "Anyway, I keep picturing all these little kids playing some game in this big field of rye and all. Thousands of little kids, and nobody’s around – nobody big, I mean – except me. And I’m standing on the edge of some crazy cliff. What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff – I mean if
they’re running and they don’t look where they’re going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That’s all I’d do all day. I’d just be the catcher in the rye and all." "Don't ever tell anybody anything. If you do, you start missing everybody." "You don't like a million things. You don't. . . . Name one thing."

"I like Allie."

"Allie's dead – You always say that! If somebody's dead and everything, and in Heaven, then it isn't really–"

"I know he's dead! Don't you think I know that? I can still like him, though, can't I? Just because somebody's dead, you don't just stop liking them, for God's sake – especially if they were about a thousand times nicer than the people you know that're alive and all." "Certain things they should stay the way they are. You ought to be able to stick them in one of those big glass cases and just leave them alone. I know that's impossible, but it's too bad anyway." "I kept walking and walking up Fifth Avenue, without any tie on or anything. Then all of a sudden, something very spooky started happening. Every time I came to the end of a block and stepped off the goddam curb, I had this feeling that I'd never get to the other side of the street. I thought I'd just go down, down, down, and nobody'd ever see me again." "Then the carousel started, and I watched her go round and round...All the kids tried to grap for the gold ring, and so was old Phoebe, and I was sort of afraid she's fall off the goddam horse, but I didn't say or do anything. The thing with kids is, if they want to grab for the gold ring, you have to let them do it, and not say anything. If they fall off, they fall off, but it is bad to say anything to them." = J.D. Salinger Holden Caulfield
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