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Copy of Copy of Archetypes in Robertson Davies' Fifth Business
Transcript of Copy of Copy of Archetypes in Robertson Davies' Fifth Business
“I was contrite and guilty, for I knew the snowball had been meant for me, but the Dempsters did not seem to think that”
-This guilt turns him humble and quicker to act and think -Boy essentially steals Leola from Dunstan
“I suppose it was mean. But Percy, in his officer’s smart uniform, got under my skin just as he had always done, and as for Leola, I didn’t particularly want her but resented anybody else having her”
-Teaches him that you don't always get what you want
-“[Dunstan] found [himself] pleasantly well off when the worst of the crash came”, but it’s because of Boy’s information and attempts even to belittle him. “It is to Boy’s advice I owe a reputation [Dunstan] acquired in the school as a very shrewd businessman”
-It seems to Dunstan as though Boy was doing this use him, as he says Boy showed him off as a "published author" when he would come visit for dinner with Boy's friends.
-Boy could have felt subconsciously responsible for causing Dunstan to have worked so hard for the Dempsters -She's always there for him, and he also finds comfort in talking with her and knows that he can trust her -> he tells her everything
- “There is really no such thing as a secret; everybody likes to tell, and everybody does tell…you have paid such a price and you look like a man full of secrets- grim-mouthed and buttoned-up and hard-eyed and cruel, because you are cruel to yourself. It has done you good to tell what you know; you look much more human already”
-Once he begins to let go of those secrets and can finally share what has been bottled up inside him for a long time, Liesl can already tell that he is beginning to change and build up to the man he deserves to be. -She makes him see himself as the "Fifth Business"
-"Fifth business...odd man out, the person who has no opposite of the other sex (no rival), carries the twist of the plot...knows secrets of heros birth, comes to the assistance of heroine when she thinks all is lost, or keeps the hermitess in her cell, or may even be the cause of someone's death if that is part of the plot."
-He needs to find out if he is fifth business, so that he can live his life -Dunstan see Paul's "Soirée of Illusions" and is re-introduced to magic
-“My magic show is not ordinary. It provokes awe, which is why it is a success. It has something of the quality of Ramsay’s saints, though my miracles have a spice of the Devil about them.”
-The show helps him understand the essential role of the shadow -Paul relieves Dunstan of his lifetime of guilt for "causing" his pre-mature birth and stealing away from his childhood
-“Me and Boy robbed your mother of her sanity”
-Paul takes the paperweight - a rock, symbolizing his guilt Mary Dempster exhibits the mother figure archetype by being loving, nurturing and soothing towards the main character Dunstan.
According to Liesl, Dunstan "made her carry the affection [he] should have spread among fifty people", which shows how important she is in his life.
When Boy threw the snowball at Mary, and caused a large amount of guilt in Dunstan, it commenced the continuance of Boy and Dunstan's relationship, which played a huge part in Dunstan's life Dunstan views Mary as his "fool saint". Savior to him, because of the three miracles she performed.
"If you think her a saint, she is a saint to you."
She encourages his interests in myths and miracles , which again become a big part of his life. Shows how she is mother figure archetype. Mary Dempster impacts Dunstan's life greatly. Dunstan takes care of her when she is sick and alone.
"But the guilt had only been thrust away, or thrust down out of sight, for here it was again, in full strength, clamouring to be atoned, now that the opportunity offered itself."
The relationship that Dunstan has with Mrs. Dempster is the fuel that runs Dunstan's life, and it changed his life entirely. If she had not come into his life, he would have not experienced certain events and he may not have developed as a person. -Explains to Dunstan his view on saints, and how Mary Dempster could be considered a saint.
-Why should he worry what anyone else thinks? “If you think her a saint, she is a saint to you…That is what we call the reality of the soul; you are foolish to demand the agreement of the world as well” (175).
-Gives his insight and truth on saints by:
-Explaining miracles and how they are conditional; they depend on time, place, known and unknown.
-Celebrate Mary Dempster as a saint on All Saints day. -He gets Dunstan to realize that he shouldn’t live his life feeling guilty about his past with Mary Dempster.
-“I think you are a fool to fret that she was knocked on the head because of an act of yours.Perhaps that was what she was for,Ramezay….Maybe God wants you for something special. Maybe so much that you are worth a woman's sanity” (178).
-“…Forgive yourself for being a human creature, Ramezay. That is the beginning of wisdom; that is part of what is meant by the fear of God; and for you it is the only way to save your sanity” (179).
-Must forgive himself, and understand that that as human beings we all make mistakes.
-Identifies that even Saints are allowed to make mistakes. Mary Dempster Boy Staunton Paul Dempster Liesl Padre Blazon Outside Links Jung's Archetypes Boy - Villain
Mary - Mother Figure
Paul - Trickster
Padre Blazon - Wise Old Man
Liesl - Hermaphrodite -Paul "kills" Dunstan's persona - everything that Dunstan thinks he should be but is not
-Dunstan feels inadequate - this makes him feel better about himself
-Killing Boy makes Dunstan more of a real character now that he doesn't have to live up to unrealistic expectations THANK YOU! -She is considered by all to be a woman but dresses and looks like a man(Hermaphrodite). How this effects Dunstan is that he has qualities to his personality that resemble a woman's.He was deemed homosexual because of these qualities to his personality. Liesl is the opposite to Dunstan, his other half, where their differences balance each other out.
-“The person who was speaking to me…was probably a woman but she wore man’s dress, had short hair, and was certainly the ugliest human creature I had ever seen….She was tall, straight, and obviously very strong, but she had big hands and feet, a huge, jutting jaw, and a heaviness of bone over the eyes that seemed to confine them to small, very deep caverns….Her voice was beautiful and her utterance was an educated speech of some foreign flavour” (Davies,205)
-Dunstan has difficulty associating with women, so the fact that Liesl was hardly a woman made it easier for him to confide in her. If she was more feminine, the relationship that they share would not be the same, in fact it may not have even existed in that case.