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Malinche, Pocahontas & Sacagawea: Interpreters and Cultural Ambassadors
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Chapter 1
00:32
Chapter 2
00:34
Chapter 3
01:24
Chapter 4
02:11
Chapter 5
02:57
Chapter 6
02:59
Chapter 7
03:41
Chapter 8
03:42
Chapter 9
03:44
Chapter 10
03:44
Chapter 11
03:46
Chapter 12
04:57
Chapter 13
05:59
Chapter 14
06:50
Chapter 15
06:52
Chapter 16
06:53
Chapter 17
06:55
Chapter 18
08:05
Chapter 19
09:17
Chapter 20
10:09
Chapter 21
11:26
Chapter 22
12:05
Chapter 23
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Hello and welcome to Moline Pocahontas and Sacha Julia misremembered
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interpreters and cultural ambassadors presented by BRyn Quick and researched
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by BRyn Quick Lydia lee you and Vanessa Sanchez Grayson.
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It's quite possible that you've never heard of Malinche Pocahontas
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and soccer Julia or if you have, you associate them
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more with Disney musicals than with intercultural communication.
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Through this presentation, we hope to introduce you to these
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often sensationalized women and to give you an idea of
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who they really were rather than who they are remembered
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to have been To begin, Malinche was a novel woman
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born near Coatzacoalcos in what is now Mexico circa 1500
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too. She was the daughter of a local Aztec authority
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which afforded her certain economic and educational advantages.
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However, after her father's death, her family sold her to
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a group of Mayan merchants who then sold her to
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a to bask in classic or chief and he in
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turn sold her to spanish invaders.
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Hernan Cortes.
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Melinda then acted as Cortez's primary interpreter and cultural adviser
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during the spanish invasion and conquest of indigenous Mexico's Melinda
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had a son with Cortez in 1522 and later married
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and had a daughter with another conquistador Juan de Ha
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Romeo in 1524.
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It is thought that she died in Spain in 1528.
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But historical records are unclear.
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We have no written records from Moline herself.
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But the records of Cortez and other colonizers highlight the
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vital role that she played in the spanish conquest because
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she had been forced into multiple culturally diverse environments from
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such a young age.
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She gained to enhance language skills.
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Not only that, but she needed those linguistic talents just
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to survive.
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She was also keenly aware of the rising indigenous hostility
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toward the ruling Aztecs and because of this political awareness,
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she was able to mould the Conquistadors message including that
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of Catholicism, to convince the indigenous peoples of the value
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of spanish domination.
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She seemed to have lived with one ft in each
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world, constantly acting as mediator between the mexicans and Spaniards
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and working to convince each camp of the others worth
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because she was so influential in both the indigenous and
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spanish worlds.
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She was viewed differently by both groups to the spanish,
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she was the baptized converted christian dona marina and enthusiastically
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accepted the superiority of the spanish language, culture and religion.
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She also worked to save the invading forces by uncovering
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an indigenous conspiracy against Cortez and was crucial to the
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Conquistadors negotiations with indigenous peoples for the indigenous nahuatl speakers.
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She was Moline scene and was respected as an authority
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working for their benefit.
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They saw her actions as demonstrating a consistent effort to
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minimize violence and facilitate the next cycle of civilization for
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them. She was a bridge between indigenous and spanish cultures.
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But how is she remembered in Mexico Now, her image
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and story have shifted several times in modern Mexico.
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She has been viewed as a feminine trader or Mexican
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Eve by groups that wanted independence from Spain In the
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19th and 20th centuries, she began to be used as
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a proud symbol of the mother the Mestizo race In
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the 21st century, she is often used in feminist works
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and retellings of the Spanish invasion as well as used
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as a major figure in the revitalization of our day
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and deaconess mo While she is remembered differently and used
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for various purposes by different groups, it is clear that
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Melinda was a complex figure who played a significant role
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in a turning point in Mexican history.
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Mm Okay, Nearly 100 years later, far north from challenges
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birthplace, another young woman would also be born who would
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signify a turning point in history.
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Pocahontas was a young woman born circa 15 95 in
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what is now eastern Virginia.
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In the United States like Melinda, she was the daughter
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of a powerful ruler in this case, Chief politan of
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the powhatan confederacy, Pocahontas also experienced an invasion this time
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by English colonizers.
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In 1607, the colonizers built the Jamestown fort near Pocahontas
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village and initially relations with the palette and tribes and
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invaders were tense but friendly Pocahontas met one of these
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colonizers. Captain John Smith when she was 12 and he
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was 27 Smith wrote that she saved him while he
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was held as a prisoner by Putin at one point
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but never indicated a romantic relationship with her.
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A few years later, after indigenous and invading relationships had
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turned violent, Pocahontas was kidnapped by Jamestown and held for
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ransom in exchange for political prisoners from power.
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Tan, however, she was never released.
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Instead, she was married to colonizer john Rolph and went
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with him and their son to England.
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It was there that she died of an unknown illness
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in 1617.
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Like Malinche, Pocahontas played an important role in acting as
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a cultural ambassador and to a lesser extent interpreter between
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the indigenous and invading groups within her own culture.
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It was expected that she would help facilitate contact with
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colonizers because of her important position as Putin's daughter.
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It is also important to note that while smith never
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explicitly wrote that there was a romance between them.
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His writings do hint at her having feelings for him,
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but this is not confirmed by any other historical writings.
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Any feelings he might have thought that he felt were
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most likely the result of a cultural misunderstanding if they
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were ever there in the first place.
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Also, like Melinda Pocahontas was held up as an example
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of a savage turned civilised Christian and a good Indian
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who recognized the need for white domination.
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The colonisers also viewed her as a peacemaker when she
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chose to marry John Ralph, even after they burned power
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10 villages, they then paraded her as a symbol of
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colonial success and Dominion in the new world when she
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was brought to and put on display in England.
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However, in reality, all we really know about the real
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Pocahontas comes from a handful of white male colonizers records
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and no first person recorded narratives from Pocahontas herself like
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millions. The invaders used her as a symbol of savage
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acceptance of white colonization and Christianity.
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She too, was viewed as a mother of a new
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race of indigenous and british peoples after the birth of
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her son with john ralph.
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Finally, as we are all probably most familiar with Pocahontas
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because of the Disney movie by the same name.
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It is worth pointing out again that the supposed romance
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between Pocahontas and smith almost certainly never existed.
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But the idea of that romance reinforced white America's theme
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of peaceful assimilation of indigenous peoples into white european culture,
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which has been a useful narrative for white America throughout
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its history.
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Okay, More than 150 years after Pocahontas, a third woman
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was born, who would be used to shape a historical
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narrative. Savage area was born circa 17 88 in what
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is now Idaho in the United States to the lemme
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show me tribe at the age of 12, she was
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captured by the head as a tribe of north Dakota.
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A few years later, she was sold by the had
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access to a french Canadian fur trader named toussaint charbonneau
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and he took her as one of at least two
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indigenous wives Around that time, american president thomas jefferson had
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just purchased a large tract of land from the french
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known as the Louisiana purchase and wanted the land to
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be explored and surveyed by americans, he hired Merriwether, Lewis
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and William Clark to do just that.
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And they explore.
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They formed an expedition team known as the Corps of
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Discovery charbonneau and his wives, including Sake Julia, became part
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of this team when Lewis and Clark realized they would
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need someone who could speak the same language so that
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they could negotiate for horses.
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When they reached lemme, Shishani land, psychedelia filled this role
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of interpreter.
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It is believed that Saakashvili had died at the age
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of 20 for a few years after the expedition ended,
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but historical records are not entirely clear.
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This begs the question who exactly was taco Julia, the
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only primary source historical accounts that we have of her
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come from the journals of Lewis and Clark and a
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few other white male contemporaries.
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We have no written accounts from Sake Julia herself.
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We do know that she gave birth to a son
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just a few weeks before setting off on the Corps
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of Discovery expedition with the baby strapped to her back.
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We also know from Lewis and Clark's writings, that she
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played a vital part in keeping the men of the
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expedition alive by using indigenous techniques of hunting and gathering
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when food rations ran low.
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We also know that she was reunited with the tribe
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that she was once kidnapped from.
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When the expedition reached.
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Let me show me land and that she was the
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one responsible for negotiating with the sessions for horses that
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would further aid the expedition.
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Lewis and clark also wrote that at one point she
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rescued important expedition records and supplies after a raft capsized
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in dangerous whitewater rapids.
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They indicate in their journals that she died in 1812.
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But several indigenous tribes, oral traditions claim that she went
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on to live a full life among them until her
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death in 1884.
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So her fate is not truly known.
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We also know that sake Julia was an extremely important
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part of the Corps of Discovery, specifically for her linguistic
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and cultural knowledge.
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Like Merlin.
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She and Pocahontas.
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Sacha Julia experienced being kidnapped and suddenly dropped into a
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new language and culture.
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At a young age.
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She had to learn to speak the head.
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It's a language and adapt to their way of life
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in order to survive.
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This meant that her ability to speak Shishani and had
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Atze allowed her to speak to charbonneau in his data
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and he interpreted from his data to english This three
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way interpretation is what allowed the expedition to pass through
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Lemme Shishani lands and eventually reached the pacific ocean.
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Thus completing the exploration, interestingly, Sacajawea is present as a
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young woman with a baby.
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Also encouraged indigenous tribes they met along the way to
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view the expedition is peaceful, even if the consequences of
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that expedition decades later would not be.
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But how do we remember soccer Julia today?
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Much has been done over the last 120 years, particularly
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by white Americans to mold her into a character that
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fits a very specific and often nationalist agenda first, like
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Melinda and Pocahontas, she is held up as an example
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of a good indian who recognized the inherent goodness of
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white America's policy of land seizure from indigenous tribes and
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the righteousness of manifest destiny.
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Also like Palin chain Pocahontas, she had a child with
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a white man and is therefore seen as the mother
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to a new race of people.
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Not only is it said that she willingly bore a
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white man's child, but the visual depiction of her with
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this child is often indicative of a Madonna and child
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aesthetic likening her goodness to sainthood.
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In 19 oh two, Sapa Julia's story was shaped even
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further by the burgeoning women's suffrage movement and white american
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women like Eva emery die romanticised her in novels in
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order to highlight the importance of women's contributions to the
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shaping of America More recently, her image has been used
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as a figure that represents the melting pot of America,
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Thus perpetuating the lie that America as a nation has
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always been tolerant of non whites.
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All of this means that the sake Julia that we
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think we remember today is actually a tall tale and
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a far cry from the young woman that she probably
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was in reality.
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In conclusion, all three women though separated by dozens or
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hundreds of years have been used by invading forces in
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remarkably similar ways.
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The colonizers, misconceptions about them had lasting repercussions on how
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indigenous women were depicted in historical records and lay the
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foundation for the mythology that engulfed each woman as oppressed,
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exploited and misremembered.
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In reality, the women have relevant and important roles in
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their native communities.
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The lives of millions, Pocahontas and sake Julia were obscured
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by centuries of deliberate mythic abstraction.
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It is vital that we begin to view them as
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the whole people that they were.
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