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FBA (Functional Behaviour Assessment)
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Steph McEwen
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Yes.
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Yeah,
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hi. We are going to talk about F B A or functional behavior analysis.
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And once we've given you a bit of an oversight of what our thinking is around it,
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then we're going to drop into a role to show you what
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it might look like when you are working with a colleague.
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So that's going to take on the role of the teacher,
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and I will be the person who just ask the questions
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to help you unpack the function of a child's behavior.
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Okay,
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so I think the first thing that it's
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important to remember is that behavior is communication,
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and students are always trying to communicate something to you with that behavior.
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Um, and what? We have to figure out what it is they're trying to communicate.
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There's usually two types of functions.
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One is to avoid or escape something, and that might be as simple as avoiding work.
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Avoiding that's work because it's too hard for them.
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Um, that could be avoiding, um, adults, teachers, peers,
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avoiding working near them
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what could be escaping sensory because of sensory overload.
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The other function is to get something,
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and often we see this with getting attention from piers and adults.
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Uh, and it might be again with sensory.
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It could be needing more sensory important meeting the the urge to move.
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Or it might be getting something with a task.
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Um,
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could be that they're wanting to move onto
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another task and looking forward to that incentive.
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So how do we determine the function of a child's behavior?
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It's quite often there's a lot of emotion involved,
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and the first thing that we need to do is the
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adults is make sure that we are in our calm space,
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because then things become clear.
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But if we flipped out a word in any way, then it's just not going to happen for anybody.
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So one thing to do is to listen to what the child is actually saying.
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What are the words? What are they using?
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We're also thinking around. What do we know about the situation?
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What do we know about the anti-oxidants? What happened before the behavior?
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What do we know about the consequences of the behavior and
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the consequences are not the punitive consequences of the discipline,
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part of consequences,
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the consequences, what maintains the behavior?
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And in doing that,
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what we notice is that then,
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well, we will actually be able to determine what the function is in a lot.
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A lot, A lot better way.
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So we're going to be looking at what activities?
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What sometimes peers,
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sometimes being around appear will trigger a particular reaction.
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So coming back to it so functional behavior analysis we're looking at,
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Maybe there's a trigger event,
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definitely looking at the eighty-seven. What's going on before the behavior,
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looking at what maintains or the consequence of doing that behavior?
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What is the kids get out of it. What purpose does it does it serve?
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And then we're also looking at what, actually, is the behavior.
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We We do have a series of documents, short documents that actually inform
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our own practice around us,
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and they will be available from us if you would like to make contact.
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But what we're going to do now is still going to drop into the role of the teacher,
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and I will be the person who asks
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the clever questions.
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And hopefully, by the end of that we will come up with a function
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for this child's behavior.
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Okay, so, Steve, are we good to go? Yeah. Brilliant. I think so. Cool. Cool. Okay.
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Can you tell me what is
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the problem? Behavior.
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Okay, so this is a student that is having a lot of different difficulties in class.
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But I'm just going to focus on one particular behavior
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in one part of the day because quite often, to if you fix that,
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you notice where it's happening throughout the year.
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Yeah.
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So the problem behavior at the moment is not coping with being on the mat.
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Okay, so when you say he's not coping with being on the mat,
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what does he actually doing?
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So he's lashing out of kits. He's kicking, right? So he's kicking. Kids
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moving?
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Yeah.
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Um so is this as soon as he's been asked to come down to the net? Or is it?
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Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much as soon.
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Sometimes he can stay focused and be okay sitting on
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the mat if there's a screen going in particular.
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But usually it's as soon as he fell.
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So as soon as he's asked to come to the mat to sit on the mat,
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he will start maybe kicking or pushing other Children.
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Yeah, or at least moving. And what? And then sort of gearing up to the next stage.
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Yeah. Okay. And how frequently does this happen?
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Um, quite often.
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So I've noticed because I collected data that you asked me to collect
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and data I'll just break from that data can just be simply,
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um, writing notes whenever you see a particular behavior keeping a little grid,
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making a time chart.
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And it's really worthwhile doing over the course of the week
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because you'll notice patterns.
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Um,
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So what I've noticed is that it's basically
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whenever it's about time apart from afternoon,
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aren't so bad.
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Tell me about why the afternoon is not so bad.
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I kind of feel like he's running out of energy.
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Okay, that's interesting. But there must be another reason. So why?
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Why is the afternoon different to the morning? What's what's
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Tell me a little bit more about what's happening in the
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afternoon cause he's not doing the behavior in the afternoon.
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So why I'm curious.
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So, actually, maybe because in the afternoon there's a story being read.
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It's a shared experience, whereas the mat times in the morning learning times
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Okay, so, like,
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six. And then the whole class maths. Okay, So what you're saying is in the afternoon.
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He's okay on the mat because there's less stress
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and it's more enjoyable. But in the morning,
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there's learning whether it's politics or something like that. And he's finding
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that's what you're seeing. The behavior. Yes. Okay. Okay.
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That's really interesting. Yeah, fascinating. So, in the morning,
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if you
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so if you really wanted to make the behavior happen,
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then what you would do is calm down to the mat and
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listen. Yes, in Parliament, among
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the whole class. So Okay, so, actually, he's also sitting in the
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city right in the middle. Is that his choice? Choice. Choice. Okay.
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Sitting in the middle. Okay,
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So what happens?
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Go back to the mat. What happens when he's sitting on the map? There's a
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lot
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going on,
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and he's starting
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to escalate. But just go back to that.
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What happens immediately after he starts to do that behavior?
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What do you do?
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I've been ignoring and Yeah, and does that work?
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No. Sometimes sometimes it doesn't. Okay, so just stick with it when you ignore it.
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He just escalated.
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You know, sometimes he'll be okay, particularly if we move on to,
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um
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doing like looking at the screen. You know how you can go on and look at your
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stuff on the screen.
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So that way there's actually due to some looking around
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and getting getting among what everyone else is doing.
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Okay, so just let me reflect that what I'm hearing.
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So what I'm hearing is that when he has to come to the man in the morning,
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he's sitting in the middle of the of the group.
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It's
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usually these learning going on. The
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next lesson is that so if the
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listening you're going and it's just really a lot more verbal, I guess
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then he might start to flesh out or push people or something like that.
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But if there is some form of screen component to it, he's not.
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He's more likely to be settled. Yes, okay, that's interesting.
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Is telling you anything yet?
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Yes, it is what they're telling you what it's telling me that.
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So
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I know for a fact this sensory issue with him.
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What's breaking it down and it's telling me, is that he seeks,
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he's he's the verbals not enough for him because he's always seeking sensory.
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So he's actually needing
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to. He always needs to move, but Maybe he's needing to see movement as well,
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Right? So
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it'll be interesting to go and collect a little
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bit more data and notice the times that actually,
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when you are using a screen and he can
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listen and learn whether that makes a big difference
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and when you don't does it make still make a difference that way?
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Okay, so let's
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let's think about how do you really engage him
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after he started to lose? The plot is starting to push him and
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push others, um, usually redirecting and usually, um,
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sort of redirecting to an activity that he can cope with. Right.
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Okay, So when you're on the mat and then you're just just verbal
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and he is starting to lash out and push out,
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what you do is you redirect into an activity away
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from the group away from that that he likes.
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Yes.
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Okay. Do you think that he is doing this lashing out behavior
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purely to get to do another activity?
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Is that his wife communicating to you? I can't cope with this.
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I need something else. And so he's doing this
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because he knows that you're going to redirect into another activity.
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Yes, I was going to say, I would normally think that,
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but this students a bit of an exception.
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But when you put it that way, yes, he is.
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He's saying I can't cope in this situation,
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and I want to move off and move on to something else.
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Okay, So is that the function of
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kicking out on the map? Perhaps? Yeah.
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Not coping with that activity,
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right?
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And so But you also know when you build in the support of the screen,
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he can he can stay for a bit longer
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and you can be successful. Yeah. Okay. So in a way, is behavior is, um,
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avoiding
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avoiding an activity?
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Because it's just it's not enough support for him to stay engaged in the activity.
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Yes, because when you think about it, sometimes Children with autism,
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um, they have they have the visual as their first language not available.
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Okay,
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how about you go away and you just notice and
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maybe incorporate more screen time with this particular activity?
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Or if you can't
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maybe redirecting sooner so he doesn't have to do the behavior.
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You reckon that's great? Yeah. That's really good, actually. Just talking about
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Yeah, Okay.
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So as you can see it always pays to have somebody else just asking the questions.
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And as you saw, all I did was reflect back what Steve had told me.
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I didn't bring my own story into it. I bought my own curiosity to it, but not my story.
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And then you can see that things have become particularly clear.
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So
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give this a shot.
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Functional analysis is not necessarily complicated,
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but as you always probably better to have two heats.
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And remember, I'm around.
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If you want to come and find me or email me and
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I'll come and see you if you want some help with this,
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I'd love to go through it with you because it's quite exciting
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when you do actually understand what the function is behind that behavior.
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Cool.
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Good luck.
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Hey,
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