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Looking Closely to Outgrow Initial Ideas
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hi readers.
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So here's the thing.
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When you write down an idea in your notebook or
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on a post it note, you really shouldn't just forget
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about it.
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You should really spend some time going back and revisiting
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those posts to deepen your thinking.
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That's a big part of fourth grade, and I've noticed
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one of the ways that I, deep in my thinking,
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is by going back and re reading certain parts so
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that I can grow my ideas even bigger.
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I wanted to try that today with you with hot
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day on Abbott Avenue.
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So you've already heard the whole story.
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But I want to go back and re read some
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parts because my initial idea was that these two girls,
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um, really want to be together.
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But they're angry.
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So I'm going to read this part on Page seven.
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Let me show that to you.
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This is where we are Ph.
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Seven right here.
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And it says, Hey, Miss Johnson calls out, You girls
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still mad forever?
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Kiss, she answers forever in a day.
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Rene ads.
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It's a best friend.
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Break up day.
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Um, so it's definitely, as I originally thought.
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The girls are super mad at each other.
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Um, they're acting the same way, though, to somebody who
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is trying to help them.
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And that happens a couple of other times to.
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So I wanted to go back and just read.
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Read that?
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So this is Page eight.
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I'll just show you that picture here so that, you
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know, come on over here and help me with my
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crossword puzzle.
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Miss Johnson says, You know how long it takes me
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when I don't have you all's help?
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No, thanks.
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Because she says, Not today, says Renee, not gonna never
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going to be friends day again.
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And then a similar thing happens over here.
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Let's see.
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This is Page 11 here.
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It iss You girls wanna help me weed?
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Mr Paul asks, kneeling in his flower bed.
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Not today, Can she says.
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No, thanks, says Renee.
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So, um, are you thinking what I'm thinking?
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These girls are so similar, I noticed that they are
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sort of finishing each other sentences.
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So maybe that's kind of the maybe not the reason
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but part of why they're angry with each other, because
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if you're really similar to someone, sometimes you kind of
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butt heads with each other.
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Have you ever noticed that.
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I wonder if that's what's happening with these girls, and
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if they're really similar, that would explain why they are
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truly friends, too.
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We just don't know why they're angry with each other
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yet. So do you see how I went back and
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reread a couple of places in my book?
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And that allowed me to grow my idea?
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It's not just the girls really want to be together,
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but they're angry.
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It's that they're actually so similar to each other that
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maybe that has something to do with why they're angry.
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So on our anchor chart, we want to add re
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read, expecting your first ideas to change.
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Okay, Radios.
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So let's try this again with a different part of
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the story.
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Um, do you remember the part of the story where
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they were playing jump rope?
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I think it waas and then the ice truck appeared,
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and so they all went to go get ice cream
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to remember that part.
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Okay, so what was your thinking there during that part?
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Just really quickly for I don't know, 30 seconds or
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so. Just turn and talk with your partner about what
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were your thinking during that part of the story.
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Go ahead and press pause and play when you're ready
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to return.
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Okay, so I'm guessing that many of you noticed that
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this is the part of the story where Kishi and
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Renee seem to become friends again.
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So let's see if we can outgrow that idea.
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And one way that we can grow our initial ideas
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even bigger is by thinking about this chart that I'd
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shown you before.
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Let's see well, we know that their feelings have, oh,
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change. Look at the bottom changes.
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Let's re read that section again with the lens in
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our mind of changes.
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How are the characters changing?
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So let me get to that part.
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All right, Here it is.
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Darling buys a blue ice pop Asia does to blue
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ice pop for Nikki and one for kitschy, but none
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for Renee.
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They're all gone.
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There's pictures here, Renee.
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You can have half of mine kiss, she says, breaking
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hers into Thanks.
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Kiss, she, Renee says, smiling shyly.
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You're welcome Kiss, she says, smiling back.
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That's a great page right there.
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Sure, the fat son has slipped completely behind the tall
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stand of pine.
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The girls sit on rennais porch, slurping blue ice pops
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and watching Buster chased the cat back under the house,
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watching Miss Johnson sleep with her head back, watching Mr
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Paul trim his hedges.
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Hail blue juice drips down their arms all the way
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down to their elbows.
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So what are you thinking now?
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Now that we've reread that section with changes as our
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lens are thinking books, I just went the wrong way.
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Let me go back.
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Okay, here's a chart.
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I'll just zoom that in for you.
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Here's another chart that might be helpful as you start
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to try to push your thinking.
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Um, you might say things like at first I thought
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that this part was talking about the girls becoming friends
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again. But now I think right in the beginning, it
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seemed like blah, blah, blah.
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But as I read on, it's clear that the first
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time I looked at it, I thought, but when I
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reread and dug deeper, I noticed, and in the beginning
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the character was blank.
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But as a story continued, the character changed, for example.
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So go ahead and think about growing your idea a
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bit bigger.
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Hit the pause button, turn and talk with your partner
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and then press play to begin again.
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So I'm wondering if any of you were thinking about
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sure. Both characters definitely change.
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Kissy and Renee definitely changed, but did anyone mention that,
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um, they actually shared with one another, and it was
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in that act of sharing, that kind of brought the
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walls of their pride down and brought them back together
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as friends, Right.
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Did anybody think of that?
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Um, what about something like this?
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Maybe a simple act of kindness can bring friends together,
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right? Or maybe even people that are disagreeing together, something
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like that.
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So the first time I looked at it, I thought
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that Renee and Kiss, she might never speak to each
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other again.
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But when I reread and dug a little deeper, I
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noticed that they were so similar to each other, and
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they truly did want to be friends, that it just
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took a simple act, like sharing an ice pop to
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bring them back together.
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So that's a way that you could use one of
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those prompts from the chart.
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Okay, One other thing I want to share with you
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and you have this in your notebook.
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A ZX?
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Well, is We've got sort of three stages here on
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your thinking.
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Stage one, you include just specific details from the text.
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Right. Um then you move on to stage two when
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we're kind of going up the ladder from just details
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in the text to growing big ideas.
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Stage two is where you think about Why did the
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author right that parter include that part?
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And you add your own thinking to it, Maybe even
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some questions.
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And then finally, stage three is where you really come
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up with a brand new idea because you build it
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from the specific details from the text, but also your
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own thinking.
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And what you notice that the author left you for
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clues. So we're putting it all together here.
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So today, as you go off and read, maybe spend
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a couple of minutes before you agreed new section in
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your book by going back and seeing if there's any
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places that you can push your thinking and grow your
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ideas a little bit bigger from the ones that you
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already have posted.
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So take about 20 to 25 minutes to read today
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and then get back together with us for the share
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of the end.
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Off you go
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