When Did WWII Really End?

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by Ian Evans10 views·Updated Jul 21, 2023

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  1. Hello, everybody and welcome to Weird History Wednesday.
  2. Today we're gonna be talking about some of the weird history of World War Two.
  3. Specifically, when did World War Two really end?
  4. Now? At first glance, this is a simple question.
  5. So you'd think that it'd have a simple answer,
  6. but like many things in history,
  7. that's not necessarily the case.
  8. When we really look into this question,
  9. we find that the answer isn't readily available and when we really get into it,
  10. it's a little bit more complex than you'd originally think.
  11. So,
  12. let's start with the last days of World War Two.
  13. Keep in mind with operation overlord and D day that occurred in June of 1944.
  14. So we're talking about summer of 1944 the allies make
  15. a big push along the western front in Europe.
  16. This puts pressure on Germany and things really start
  17. to pick up over the course of the year.
  18. Um Operation plunder is the last very large operation in Europe.
  19. Now,
  20. this is mainly to help push to Berlin because the allies
  21. were in a bit of a race to get there so that
  22. they can determine who was going to control what happened in
  23. Berlin and in Germany following the end of World War two.
  24. So we have Britain France and the US racing in from the
  25. west or we also have Russia racing in from the east,
  26. whoever gets there, it's controlled that.
  27. So there's a big push along the way.
  28. There's lots of uh liberation of Nazi concentration camps.
  29. We see the slow withdrawal like uh German troops from Finland back down.
  30. They ultimately surrender in Italy in April 9th or 29.
  31. And then the day later,
  32. Hitler dies by suicide on April 30th 1945.
  33. Now the battle for Berlin starts with May 2nd.
  34. German forces put up a good fight at the end but
  35. they only make it until May 8th 1945 when fighting stops,
  36. this becomes known as the E day or victory in Europe Day.
  37. But there's more than one theater in World War
  38. Two built up the Pacific to worry about.
  39. So with Japan is basically the last big leg standing of the Axis Powers.
  40. Pressure gets put on them to take them up at the Pots
  41. conference which is mainly to figure out what's
  42. gonna happen with Germany and Europe following fighting.
  43. There's also the declaration that Japan should unconditionally surrender.
  44. Just a few short weeks later,
  45. the atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki are
  46. drop effectively ending the fighting in Japan.
  47. Now,
  48. the real instrument of surrender was not signed until September 2nd of 1945.
  49. That meant that there was a month of fighting Russia getting involved.
  50. So it gets a little bit of messy and muddled.
  51. But September 2nd really is the last day of fighting and when peace comes, however,
  52. it's not the official ending.
  53. Rather,
  54. it's April 20th, 1952.
  55. That is considered really the end of World War two because that's when
  56. the formal peace treaty was signed between the US and between Japan.
  57. So interesting here with the day that fighting stopped
  58. and the day with the war formally ended with documentation
  59. seven years though is a long time and a lot can happen that we are going to see.
  60. This brings us to
  61. Schwab
  62. during operation plunder lots of information,
  63. secret documents and government in government intel was brought out of Germany.
  64. One particular piece of information that was of great interest was in Schwab
  65. land.
  66. And the idea that Germany was making colonies all
  67. around the world including in Antarctica at the time,
  68. beginning in the 19 thirties.
  69. Now there's also the areas of South America.
  70. We know that from the Nuremberg trials and the
  71. extradition of many high level Nazi officials from Argentina
  72. that South America became a little bit of a refuge
  73. place for Nazis fleeing Europe following World war two.
  74. Now this makes for a quite convenient jump to Antarctica
  75. or to have that link so that Antarctica could remain a breakaway colon.
  76. Now, why is that important in terms of our end of World War Two.
  77. Well,
  78. the story was and according to the
  79. information that was gathered from operation plunder
  80. that recently classified documents even verify
  81. that the German or Nazi efforts to develop superior
  82. technology was underway specifically at this colony in New.
  83. We have pieces like the
  84. also
  85. the bell or the
  86. hobo craft.
  87. They basically figured out with uh vortex mercury engines
  88. that they were able to create an electromagnetic effect,
  89. which created a lift or an alternate means of propulsion
  90. or they got tripped up was fitting weapon systems onto
  91. these crafts that would actually be functional for warfare.
  92. They weren't able to do so in the time that they had,
  93. but that might not be the case explaining outlets.
  94. So there was the very real concern that
  95. maybe there are people in this colony that neither
  96. know or possibly do not care about the end of war
  97. because they have superior technology
  98. and they might be able to control their own destiny.
  99. So the issue in Schwab
  100. and land in Antarctica becomes a big deal following the close of World War two,
  101. especially with fighting in Europe.
  102. This leads us to operation high jump
  103. after hostilities are ended.
  104. We have a year later in August 26th in 1946 roughly a year after
  105. the uh ceasing of violence is signed with Japan.
  106. Now,
  107. the cover for this mission is that it's
  108. a scientific expedition to gather information and intel
  109. um Admiral Bird, he was very verse with polar travel, particularly the North Pole.
  110. I was part of an operation there that needed to be moved because of
  111. the incoming winter weather as well as the crowded nature of the Arctic circle.
  112. However,
  113. Admiral Byrd had a massive naval detail.
  114. We're talking 13 ships including cruisers, destroyers, battleships,
  115. even an aircraft carrier with 33 aircraft including P 51 Mustangs
  116. and some of our most advanced aerial technology at the time.
  117. Now,
  118. they were dispatched in response to a Nazi submarine
  119. that had recently surfaced off the coast of Antarctica
  120. and they were really there to hunt for a breakaway colony of Nazis
  121. that could be a continuing threat going forward.
  122. So what really happened while they were down there?
  123. Why did the expedition only last five months?
  124. Well, that's a good question.
  125. These details are still unclear. But what is certain is that the expedition
  126. was planned for two years?
  127. They came back
  128. just five months later.
  129. Now, that's not to say that this group is supposed to be there for two years,
  130. but they're supposed to set up operations for two years so that people
  131. could come and go and continue out what they were prepared to do.
  132. Didn't have
  133. the fleet also came back completely destined. Around 25% was destroyed.
  134. Another 25% was heavily damaged.
  135. And in an interview that bird gave following this as they limped back home,
  136. said in the next war,
  137. we must be prepared to face craft that can
  138. travel from pole to pole at incredible speeds.
  139. Interesting. But that's what's on his mind after a scientific expedition
  140. to Antarctica.
  141. So keep in mind that's in 1947 just about or
  142. 1946 they come back in 1947 just five months later.
  143. Well, that takes to
  144. Ros
  145. but five months after Admiral Byrd ends the edit or the expedition
  146. about five months, but it takes them to get home.
  147. Well, that five month span after February on July 5th, 1947
  148. the US
  149. army air forces sent out a shocking press release saying
  150. that they have recovered a craft of exotic origin.
  151. A flying disk
  152. looks a lot like the Hano
  153. interesting here
  154. that they come up right about when Admiral Bird
  155. should return from his expedition of the Arctic.
  156. Also interesting
  157. just a few short months after Roswell,
  158. we have the formation of the National
  159. Security Act and the Central Intelligence Agency.
  160. We also have the DC lights which are connected in 1952. We have July here.
  161. So just a few months before the official end of World War two,
  162. there are these crazy lights that are seen around Washington DC
  163. and that effectively buzz the White House and the Capitol building
  164. and our air forces are able to do nothing to prevent
  165. them from entering airspace or to really chase them down.
  166. After some of the pilots said the craft
  167. when given pursuit completely disappeared from their vehicle.
  168. Well, let's start to consider operation paper clipping
  169. from the time that we're talking about the end of fighting
  170. to the official signing of the end of World War two.
  171. We had a number of Nazi scientists that
  172. basically repatriated into the American systems of technology,
  173. advancement of NASA or even our military
  174. industrial complex to help develop rocket technology.
  175. Well, this could be seen as a good thing.
  176. We basically brought Nazis into our government
  177. and they didn't change their perspective or their ideals
  178. takeaway. Here,
  179. we brought in people that knew about
  180. the secret aircraft technologies of Germany and
  181. of the Nazis and they were here to help us develop those specific.
  182. So that leads us to today.
  183. Take a look at the press clippings and everything that is coming out.
  184. We have more and more information that the US government has been studying UFO S
  185. since the 19 forties and that they do indeed have downed or retrieved craft.
  186. Some people say that these are of extraterrestrial origin,
  187. others might simply say
  188. they belong to the people of.
  189. So the question really is,
  190. how did World War Two
  191. or maybe did it really ever end?
  192. Thanks for watching. This has been weird history. Wednesday.