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When Did WWII Really End?
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Chapter 1
00:32
Chapter 2
02:38
Chapter 3
03:04
Chapter 4
03:06
Chapter 5
03:08
Chapter 6
03:34
Chapter 7
04:00
Chapter 8
04:06
Chapter 9
05:07
Chapter 10
05:15
Chapter 11
05:19
Chapter 12
05:35
Chapter 13
06:24
Chapter 14
06:32
Chapter 15
07:18
Chapter 16
07:28
Chapter 17
07:30
Chapter 18
08:13
Chapter 19
08:42
Chapter 20
08:44
Chapter 21
08:47
Chapter 22
09:14
Chapter 23
09:27
Chapter 24
09:28
Chapter 25
09:30
Chapter 26
09:50
Chapter 27
Audio Transcript
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Hello, everybody and welcome to Weird History Wednesday.
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Today we're gonna be talking about some of the weird history of World War Two.
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Specifically, when did World War Two really end?
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Now? At first glance, this is a simple question.
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So you'd think that it'd have a simple answer,
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but like many things in history,
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that's not necessarily the case.
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When we really look into this question,
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we find that the answer isn't readily available and when we really get into it,
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it's a little bit more complex than you'd originally think.
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So,
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let's start with the last days of World War Two.
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Keep in mind with operation overlord and D day that occurred in June of 1944.
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So we're talking about summer of 1944 the allies make
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a big push along the western front in Europe.
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This puts pressure on Germany and things really start
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to pick up over the course of the year.
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Um Operation plunder is the last very large operation in Europe.
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Now,
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this is mainly to help push to Berlin because the allies
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were in a bit of a race to get there so that
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they can determine who was going to control what happened in
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Berlin and in Germany following the end of World War two.
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So we have Britain France and the US racing in from the
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west or we also have Russia racing in from the east,
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whoever gets there, it's controlled that.
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So there's a big push along the way.
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There's lots of uh liberation of Nazi concentration camps.
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We see the slow withdrawal like uh German troops from Finland back down.
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They ultimately surrender in Italy in April 9th or 29.
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And then the day later,
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Hitler dies by suicide on April 30th 1945.
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Now the battle for Berlin starts with May 2nd.
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German forces put up a good fight at the end but
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they only make it until May 8th 1945 when fighting stops,
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this becomes known as the E day or victory in Europe Day.
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But there's more than one theater in World War
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Two built up the Pacific to worry about.
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So with Japan is basically the last big leg standing of the Axis Powers.
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Pressure gets put on them to take them up at the Pots
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conference which is mainly to figure out what's
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gonna happen with Germany and Europe following fighting.
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There's also the declaration that Japan should unconditionally surrender.
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Just a few short weeks later,
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the atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki are
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drop effectively ending the fighting in Japan.
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Now,
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the real instrument of surrender was not signed until September 2nd of 1945.
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That meant that there was a month of fighting Russia getting involved.
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So it gets a little bit of messy and muddled.
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But September 2nd really is the last day of fighting and when peace comes, however,
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it's not the official ending.
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Rather,
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it's April 20th, 1952.
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That is considered really the end of World War two because that's when
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the formal peace treaty was signed between the US and between Japan.
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So interesting here with the day that fighting stopped
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and the day with the war formally ended with documentation
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seven years though is a long time and a lot can happen that we are going to see.
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This brings us to
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Schwab
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during operation plunder lots of information,
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secret documents and government in government intel was brought out of Germany.
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One particular piece of information that was of great interest was in Schwab
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land.
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And the idea that Germany was making colonies all
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around the world including in Antarctica at the time,
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beginning in the 19 thirties.
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Now there's also the areas of South America.
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We know that from the Nuremberg trials and the
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extradition of many high level Nazi officials from Argentina
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that South America became a little bit of a refuge
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place for Nazis fleeing Europe following World war two.
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Now this makes for a quite convenient jump to Antarctica
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or to have that link so that Antarctica could remain a breakaway colon.
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Now, why is that important in terms of our end of World War Two.
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Well,
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the story was and according to the
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information that was gathered from operation plunder
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that recently classified documents even verify
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that the German or Nazi efforts to develop superior
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technology was underway specifically at this colony in New.
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We have pieces like the
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also
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the bell or the
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hobo craft.
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They basically figured out with uh vortex mercury engines
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that they were able to create an electromagnetic effect,
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which created a lift or an alternate means of propulsion
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or they got tripped up was fitting weapon systems onto
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these crafts that would actually be functional for warfare.
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They weren't able to do so in the time that they had,
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but that might not be the case explaining outlets.
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So there was the very real concern that
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maybe there are people in this colony that neither
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know or possibly do not care about the end of war
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because they have superior technology
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and they might be able to control their own destiny.
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So the issue in Schwab
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and land in Antarctica becomes a big deal following the close of World War two,
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especially with fighting in Europe.
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This leads us to operation high jump
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after hostilities are ended.
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We have a year later in August 26th in 1946 roughly a year after
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the uh ceasing of violence is signed with Japan.
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Now,
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the cover for this mission is that it's
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a scientific expedition to gather information and intel
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um Admiral Bird, he was very verse with polar travel, particularly the North Pole.
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I was part of an operation there that needed to be moved because of
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the incoming winter weather as well as the crowded nature of the Arctic circle.
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However,
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Admiral Byrd had a massive naval detail.
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We're talking 13 ships including cruisers, destroyers, battleships,
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even an aircraft carrier with 33 aircraft including P 51 Mustangs
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and some of our most advanced aerial technology at the time.
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Now,
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they were dispatched in response to a Nazi submarine
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that had recently surfaced off the coast of Antarctica
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and they were really there to hunt for a breakaway colony of Nazis
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that could be a continuing threat going forward.
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So what really happened while they were down there?
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Why did the expedition only last five months?
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Well, that's a good question.
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These details are still unclear. But what is certain is that the expedition
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was planned for two years?
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They came back
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just five months later.
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Now, that's not to say that this group is supposed to be there for two years,
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but they're supposed to set up operations for two years so that people
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could come and go and continue out what they were prepared to do.
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Didn't have
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the fleet also came back completely destined. Around 25% was destroyed.
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Another 25% was heavily damaged.
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And in an interview that bird gave following this as they limped back home,
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said in the next war,
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we must be prepared to face craft that can
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travel from pole to pole at incredible speeds.
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Interesting. But that's what's on his mind after a scientific expedition
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to Antarctica.
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So keep in mind that's in 1947 just about or
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1946 they come back in 1947 just five months later.
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Well, that takes to
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Ros
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but five months after Admiral Byrd ends the edit or the expedition
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about five months, but it takes them to get home.
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Well, that five month span after February on July 5th, 1947
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the US
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army air forces sent out a shocking press release saying
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that they have recovered a craft of exotic origin.
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A flying disk
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looks a lot like the Hano
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interesting here
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that they come up right about when Admiral Bird
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should return from his expedition of the Arctic.
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Also interesting
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just a few short months after Roswell,
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we have the formation of the National
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Security Act and the Central Intelligence Agency.
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We also have the DC lights which are connected in 1952. We have July here.
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So just a few months before the official end of World War two,
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there are these crazy lights that are seen around Washington DC
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and that effectively buzz the White House and the Capitol building
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and our air forces are able to do nothing to prevent
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them from entering airspace or to really chase them down.
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After some of the pilots said the craft
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when given pursuit completely disappeared from their vehicle.
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Well, let's start to consider operation paper clipping
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from the time that we're talking about the end of fighting
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to the official signing of the end of World War two.
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We had a number of Nazi scientists that
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basically repatriated into the American systems of technology,
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advancement of NASA or even our military
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industrial complex to help develop rocket technology.
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Well, this could be seen as a good thing.
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We basically brought Nazis into our government
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and they didn't change their perspective or their ideals
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takeaway. Here,
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we brought in people that knew about
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the secret aircraft technologies of Germany and
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of the Nazis and they were here to help us develop those specific.
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So that leads us to today.
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Take a look at the press clippings and everything that is coming out.
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We have more and more information that the US government has been studying UFO S
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since the 19 forties and that they do indeed have downed or retrieved craft.
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Some people say that these are of extraterrestrial origin,
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others might simply say
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they belong to the people of.
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So the question really is,
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how did World War Two
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or maybe did it really ever end?
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Thanks for watching. This has been weird history. Wednesday.
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