What Administration? Federal vs. Local

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by Shawna Reynolds0 views·Updated Jan 23, 2021

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  1. everyone. We're gonna talk about Chapter two, and I labeled
  2. it messy politics because it's kind of what your author
  3. described Everything as when we look at the federal government,
  4. everything's pretty laid out pretty neatly.
  5. Um, it's very clear for the most part, you know,
  6. we have the Constitution.
  7. We know our rights.
  8. He has all these different things.
  9. They're labeled for us.
  10. But as we talk about, um, different issues, and especially
  11. when it comes to the criminal justice system and policies
  12. and procedures, Ah, lot of that actually comes down to
  13. your state, county and local city levels.
  14. And so it gets very confusing.
  15. There's not a standard unnecessarily for a lot of different
  16. things. There's maybe a general standard that the federal government
  17. puts out there, but then everybody could kind of pull
  18. it into their own thought process.
  19. So let's look briefly here at Chapter two.
  20. So let's see, What are the missions for the criminal
  21. justice system?
  22. Well, um, your author list for different reasons why we
  23. have the Colonel Justice system what it is that the
  24. community wants.
  25. Okay, Um right.
  26. We have the right to be happy.
  27. And we're right, um, to pursue American dreams, right?
  28. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness without have another
  29. people, um, telling us No, we can't do that.
  30. And so you know, we have these different goals in
  31. the criminal justice system, but there's a catch to that.
  32. How we accomplish those goals is we have to actually
  33. use the community.
  34. And that's obviously what we're seeing.
  35. A major breakdown right now is there is no way
  36. the community wants anything to do with the criminal justice
  37. system. Um, we have a lot of people are saying,
  38. You know what?
  39. That's it.
  40. We're done.
  41. Let's get rid of the police, you know, abolish the
  42. police. Let's figure out a different way to start over.
  43. Um, and the community is trying to figure out how
  44. to form different groups to potentially add into or replace
  45. other parts of the criminal justice system.
  46. Yeah, but then we get into something that is more
  47. what we call private privatization.
  48. And in this instance, um, you know, Chapter one talked
  49. about mass incarceration, and this is a response to kind
  50. of just some of what your first author said, and
  51. they so we kind of look at something.
  52. Um in the sense of taking it out of the
  53. government's hands and putting it into private people and putting
  54. it into the communities hands.
  55. Well, that's the problem here is that we've taken corrections,
  56. uh, meaning jails and prisons on.
  57. We're putting this into the end of different companies and
  58. giving it over and making it private.
  59. Um, we're technically, it is the community that's running these
  60. things. And in doing these things, that is the problem.
  61. No. Are we selling people?
  62. Are we helping people?
  63. And in many cases, if you look at the video
  64. that I posted here, you're going to see that there's
  65. some major problems with how we try to deal with
  66. a couple different things in the kernel.
  67. Just system.
  68. People are complaining that we're paying too much money.
  69. Um, and the conditions are bad on.
  70. We're treating people inhumanely.
  71. And so how do we save money?
  72. Well, let's try doing a private government or privatized company
  73. to let them run the prison and hold people, and
  74. we can cut our costs because they don't have to
  75. hire um, a ZX trained many trained professionals.
  76. They don't have to hire people who are even qualified
  77. necessarily to normally work any facility.
  78. And so after you watch this video, it kind of
  79. gives you a better understanding of how this is actually
  80. more serious problem thing we realize.
  81. So what is their solution to some of this?
  82. Um, this man here, Dan, he works at the Department
  83. of Corrections.
  84. Um, in believe it's Minnesota, but he has a very
  85. interesting perspective on possible solutions for what we should be
  86. doing in the prisons.
  87. Um, since we're talking pretty much right now about mass
  88. incarceration, yes, the issues that he brings up in the
  89. ideas that he brings up that they have already implemented
  90. where he works is amazing.
  91. And it would be really great if we could start
  92. looking at instead of abolishing everything.
  93. Um, there's groups that every now they're called abolitionist, and
  94. that's their goal is to get rid of all prisons
  95. and to get rid of all law enforcement on dhe.
  96. They believe that there's a totally different aspect of how
  97. to control, uh, potential issues, right?
  98. Uh, in our society so everybody doesn't get along.
  99. And there's people who do have addiction issues, medical issues,
  100. mental health issues and, yes, the criminal system has been
  101. forced to deal with a lot of that.
  102. Which is why we have seen the results of a
  103. lot of what we got right now.
  104. Um, not not looking at some, obviously the bigger pictures
  105. of bias and racism and prejudice nous but just looking
  106. at the perspective of how to deal with crime.
  107. Uh, because if we got rid of or if we
  108. abolish some of these things, the idea is is there
  109. such a thing as crime now?
  110. So people would never be punished.
  111. So do you get to do what you want or
  112. are we looking at a way to reframe it?
  113. Reword it?
  114. Uh, it's an interesting thought process.
  115. Okay, so there's a lot of different people out there,
  116. and there's there's kind of a group right now that
  117. is literally working on, um, what they call being an
  118. abolitionist in getting rid of some of, um, er the
  119. parts of the common justice system that seemed to be
  120. where people suffer the most.
  121. Okay, but Dan solutions there, I think are amazing.
  122. So check that video out.
  123. And of course, you know, here's the problem, right?
  124. We're looking at being cost effective in this response.
  125. This author is saying, um, you know that the first
  126. author didn't take everything into consideration.
  127. Um, and the first author, Mr Burke.
  128. Oh, you know what?
  129. You know, we start, um, maybe reallocating the funding and
  130. doing it the right way.
  131. Um, it will help solve some of our problems, But
  132. you've already seen a video.
  133. You've already looked at the privatization of prisons and realize
  134. that just because it costs us doesn't mean it fix
  135. everything, so money doesn't fix everything.
  136. And that's kind of where we're at right now.
  137. Like people you know, the government and our politicians, they
  138. wanna argue just about money.
  139. They don't really argue about the conditions or being humane.
  140. They literally were just looking at a bottom dollar.
  141. I'm many of their campaigns, and many of their gonna
  142. tell you all I'm going to save us money because
  143. I'm gonna start a different program.
  144. Um, but they really don't They just kind of move
  145. money around, but they really don't fix any issues because
  146. they actually think money can fix it.
  147. And if we really look at some of the major
  148. issues that we have today in our system, money is
  149. definitely not the solution here.
  150. Now, with that in understanding that, you know, just because,
  151. um right, we move money around, you know?
  152. Well, it fix things.
  153. Well, I'm going to show you here something called Realignment.
  154. And in California, they came out with some different things.
  155. Like I said, we had local level politics here where
  156. you can look at what they called realignment and what
  157. they did.
  158. And this is kind of what is going on right
  159. now. And from my understanding on we're gonna get into
  160. this more, especially with some of our guest speakers that
  161. are gonna be on this semester.
  162. Um, looking at the differences between the abolitionists and the
  163. people that want to defund, Um, I have the defund
  164. the police because that seems to be the one area
  165. that everybody is kind of on right now.
  166. But I have a feeling that at some point it
  167. will be a little bit different.
  168. And, uh, you know, it's it's more about defunding this
  169. system, but not necessarily just defunding it, saving everybody tax
  170. dollars. It's about doing something similar to what California did
  171. not what?
  172. California hasn't really worked out very well for them.
  173. Um, and it was how they realigned where they gave
  174. the money back to the counties and told them to
  175. house prisoners, um, or do something differently with prisoners versus
  176. sending everybody the state prisons because they were so overcrowded,
  177. state was telling them, Look, you're gonna have to let
  178. 10,000 prisoners out.
  179. And the concern was is that not?
  180. They didn't have 10,000 nonviolent prisoners, necessarily the let out.
  181. And so now we have to look at how is
  182. this gonna affect the communities in society?
  183. Are these people are gonna commit crimes again?
  184. You know, if they do, then everybody gets mad and
  185. it Zaveri difficulty line.
  186. Um, when it comes to law enforcement, it comes Thio
  187. criminal justice and, uh, corrections.
  188. Excuse me.
  189. There's a lot of difficult lines that, um, nothing's black
  190. and white.
  191. There's so much great area.
  192. There's so many different paths that people can take.
  193. And so, um, but if you really look at what
  194. we call de funding, this is kind of what the
  195. idea here is that we're talking about or, in other
  196. words, has been re allocating the funds.
  197. In other words, cut it from places like corrections and
  198. law enforcement and move it into actual resource is for
  199. the communities.
  200. So mental health addiction treatment in different issues like that.
  201. Because when you look at addiction treatment or mental health,
  202. there's very few places for people to go, especially in
  203. our state.
  204. So if we wanna look at our state Many years
  205. ago, when I was younger pride in junior high school,
  206. that's when all the state hospitals mental health hospital serving
  207. shut down.
  208. I'm not saying Let's build a bunch of hospitals to
  209. put people back in because basically, that was just jails
  210. for people with mental health.
  211. Um, but we need to look at actual treatments, proper
  212. medications. Um, you know, people that cannot live on their
  213. own. How do we set that up?
  214. There are group homes, but me being in the nonprofit
  215. world, I've worked with some people that have run different
  216. group homes, and it's actually very sad because the state
  217. will pay you, and that's all they care about.
  218. And that's the sad part.
  219. Is that a lot of these group homes, um, there's
  220. a lot of people good people out there and that
  221. there's a lot of people out there that are saying,
  222. Oh, you can have, you know, 15, 20 people in
  223. this house and make all this money off of them
  224. And then, you know, it's It's just all about getting
  225. the state aid to take care of somebody like that.
  226. And so it's a sad situation.
  227. There's a lot of different places it's still to this
  228. day need to be.
  229. You know, those are the kind of things.
  230. In a sense, it not necessarily defund those programs.
  231. But let's look at where the money goes, how it
  232. actually goes.
  233. Does it take care of the person?
  234. Is it just taking care of the caretaker?
  235. Is the person getting what they need?
  236. There's, um so there's a lot of different things like
  237. that. So when we talk about defunding, it's not necessarily
  238. because we want less taxes or less money going into
  239. the government.
  240. It's more about providing proper resource is for the community,
  241. which I think where we're at today and all the
  242. issues that we talked about today.
  243. Um, this is something that can actually potentially happen, and
  244. I think realignment is a good idea.
  245. We just gotta learn how to implement it properly And
  246. so, um, how much?
  247. You just kind of look at this, Get an idea
  248. of it.
  249. We could talk about it, Um, on Monday when we
  250. have class.
  251. Um, And so, obviously, um, here's a podcast.
  252. Kind of an idea of some issues and some things
  253. from the perspective of defunding the police.
  254. Um, And what's that like now in America?
  255. The podcast is also on your syllabus that I put
  256. in there for this week.
  257. So, um, just trying to provide an extra space for
  258. some links for you guys to, um, you know, be
  259. ableto listen to some of the extra things that I
  260. put in there.
  261. But, you know, if we were to abolish police and
  262. privatize it, would that help us?
  263. I mean, we looked at how privatizing prisons could go.
  264. Um, you know, how do you guys think privatizing police
  265. would potentially go, or should we defund?
  266. But then we have to look at how that looks.
  267. And do we realign the mission for what police are
  268. for? And then how do we build the actual resource
  269. is that we're looking at for, um, the reallocation of
  270. those funds.
  271. Another issue that we have is that the health insurance
  272. companies get involved in almost all of this is far
  273. as treatments and things go and most treatment centers, addiction
  274. centers, rehabs, those kind of things.
  275. Um, and any mental health facility there is they will
  276. not take a person unless they actually have to things
  277. and I'd and health insurance.
  278. And in most cases, those people do not have either
  279. one or they only have maybe an I D at
  280. best. And that, in turn, either keeps him from going
  281. in or if they do have health insurance.
  282. Most health insurance companies don't pay more than 90 days
  283. for rehabilitation, which is barely enough time for that person
  284. to even have the drugs or alcohol different things out
  285. of their system to, um, function.
  286. And then I say, drugs.
  287. It's not necessarily street drugs.
  288. It could be pharmaceuticals as well.