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Futureproofing the Customer-Centric Organization (AMGT350) - vol. 2
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Ryan Malm
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Chapter 1
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Chapter 2
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Chapter 3
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Chapter 4
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Chapter 5
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Chapter 6
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Chapter 7
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Chapter 8
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Chapter 9
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Chapter 10
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Okay, welcome back to Volume two.
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We're moving into, let me go back real quick.
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So what I said, we would do is after looking
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at the collaboration, we're going to look at the two
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navigational tools that customer centric managers have and they're increasing
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customer trust and innovation.
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So let's take a look at increasing customer trust, which
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is oh my gosh, right.
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We you guys are probably so sick of hearing me
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talk about trust.
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But as leaders struggle to apply these customer centric principles
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that we've been talking about in this class, um you
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know, new problems pop up unanticipated technologies, pop up their
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work roles change.
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But if they can think of these two navigational tools
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as kind of a road map, that's going to help
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guide them through whatever happens in the economy, whatever disrupts
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the economy, whatever type of technological changes happen, right.
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If you guys, when you guys get shoot, I don't
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want to get into strengths and weaknesses and opportunities and
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threats. But these are these are types of things that
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are going to happen from outside of the company that
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we don't have control over, and that's going to happen
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down the line, right?
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But if but if leaders can use these two tools
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as a road map, it will kind of help guide
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them regardless of what changes happen.
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Right? So the first of the two tools is maintaining
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and increasing customer trust, just saying like, no matter what
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changes out there in the economy, no matter what changes
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about technology.
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One of our first tools that we can always use
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to better ourselves is to maintain and increase customer trust.
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Um, so what does that look like Pierre produced in
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community owned products are really thriving right now, right?
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We're seeing a huge uptick in in uh products that
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are are designed by customers, um that are owned by
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the community.
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And so the more we can build trust and collaborate
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with those kinds of projects, the better the most forward
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thinking businesses, right?
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They're they're they're uh they're best attributes is to act
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in the customers interests.
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Okay? So if you can maintain that as like a
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core value to say, hey, we have all these policies,
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we have all these ideas on what we want to
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do, but as long as you act in the customer's
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interest, that's forward thinking and that's an attribute that we
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want throughout our company, throughout the employees, throughout the culture,
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in order to continue maintaining and increasing customer trust.
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Um last but not least, the trust ability principles.
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There's like the three trust ability principles.
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First do things right, right, high quality, do it right.
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The first time kind of thing.
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Second, do the right thing, ethical side of things, and
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then third be proactive, don't wait for people to complain.
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Don't wait for people to have an issue with the
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way that you're treating them like do things ahead of
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time to really get on there to really increase their
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trust before they even know there's a problem that's going
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to go.
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So so far, I'm going to bring up this image.
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Actually, this is a good one that is about like,
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So the left hand column here is what a trustworthy
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company does, and being a trustworthy company is better than
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not being trustworthy.
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But then the right side is where we really want
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to be as far as being a trustable company.
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So on the left side, care, a trustworthy company carefully
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follows the rules of law and trains people on ethics
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ethical policies to ensure compliance.
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Sounds great, right?
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But a trustable company follows the golden rule towards customers
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and builds a corporate culture around that principle, right?
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Treat customers the way that you would want to be
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treated the golden rule, A trustworthy company does what's best
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for the customers whenever possible, balanced against the company's needs.
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But a trustable company designs its business to ensure that
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what's best for the customer is also financially best for
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the company.
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Okay, So it's a different way of approaching that idea.
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Uh, third, a trustworthy company fulfils all its promises to
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its customers and does what it says.
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It will do efficiently.
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Trustable company follows through on the spirit of what it
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promises by proactively looking out for the customer's interest.
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This is like when like this is when like somebody,
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uh, man just think like if somebody sells you something
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and then follows up a couple of days later and
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says, you know what, There's this new technology out or
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there was some update that was made and normally you
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have to pay for it.
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But you know, I just dealt with you the other
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day and I'm looking out for your best interest.
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So I'm going to provide this to you for free.
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That's what a trustable company, it really does.
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The 4th 1, they're trustworthy company manages and coordinates all
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brand messaging to ensure a compelling and consistent story.
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This is what I teach in principles of marketing classes,
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but a trustable company recognizes that what people say about
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the brand is much, much more important than what the
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company says.
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Okay, so it's again, it's it's getting, what do we
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call that customer optimization?
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Right? Getting making sure that the customers are saying good
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things about us, that what we say is going to
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be taken with a grain of salt by all customers.
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But if we really want to build trust, we don't
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need to be as focused on what we're saying.
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But what customers are saying about us and about our
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brand fifth, they're trustworthy company uses a loyalty program.
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They look at churn reduction turnover and or uh wind
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back initiatives to retain customers longer.
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Right? And that's all sounds fine and dandy.
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But a trustable company seeks to ensure that customers want
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to remain loyal because they trust the company to act
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in their best interests.
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Not because of some loyalty program, but because when I'm
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dealing with you as a business, I know that you
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have my best interests in mind and so I don't
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want to go anywhere else.
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Last, trustworthy company focuses on quarterly profits as the most
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important. They're looking at key performance indicators, right?
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KPI S looking at profits, KPI S, that kind of
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thing. A trustable company uses customer analytics, right?
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We talked about that for a whole week to balance
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the customer profits against changes in actual shareholder value.
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So it's right.
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Looking at, oh, when we treat our customers better, how
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does that change our current profits?
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And how does that add value?
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Hopefully, to the shareholders.
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So that's the trust side of things.
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Now, let's talk about the innovation side of things.
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And this is like doing a complete disservice to innovation.
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I used to teach a class, uh, for three quarters
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straight of innovation to, to get students and innovation degree,
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but it's okay.
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We're talking about just a microclimate here.
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Innovation when it comes to using it as a tool
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for managers in the customer centric organization.
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Right? So this is the second tool that they have
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at their disposal to future proof.
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The company innovate innovate, innovate, right?
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You must produce new ideas constantly.
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Right? You can't just say, boy, we got this really
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cool update to our product coming down the pipeline and
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once that hits, oh man, things are gonna be so
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sweet. Um You always have to be working on things
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and and having new innovations coming down the pipeline, but
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they've got to have real value for the customers.
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Um I'm gonna I'm gonna throw Apple under the bus
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here. I hate to do that because I love Apple.
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But like, I've seen their latest uh commercials, ads on
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on this video game I've been playing.
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It's like, it keeps bombarding me with Apple imac uh
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ads. And what did they do?
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What was the big selling point?
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Oh my gosh!
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Colour choices.
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I had an imac in college in 1999 and it
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had six different color choices.
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That's not value to customers anymore.
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Right, come on.
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So you've got to make sure that your new ideas
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are all based around value for the customer.
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Right. True Innovation.
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And I started to get to this line a little
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bit earlier.
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True innovation really requires empathy.
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Okay. It requires empathy of the customer.
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We have to be able to see things from the
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customer's perspective, right?
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We have to see what it is that they actually
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value in their life.
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Building those those learning relationships that we've been talking about
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is the best step to gaining that insight that you're
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going to need to build products and build services that
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we absolutely know the customer values.
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Otherwise we're just guessing right.
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If you have an R.
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And D.
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Department that sits in a room with a bunch of
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smart people thinking that they're going to produce a new
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product or service, they're just guessing that that's going to
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be valuable to the customers.
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But if we have good uh insights into the customer
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and what they do right through all this customer analytics
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and all the other like monitoring and data analytics that
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we talked about previously.
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We know what they want, we know what they're going
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to value now.
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We know what they're going to value in the future
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and we can build products that we know are going
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to work rather than what we think are going to
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work secondly, when it comes innovation fail wisely okay, learn
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from your failures, fail early, fail often, but always learn
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from your failure.
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Um it's best to fail with like pilot projects or
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with a prototype, right?
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You don't want to fail when you're like, oh, hey,
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we made this complete change with our company and it
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didn't work out very well.
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Um it's best to take it in small steps, right?
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But then learn from it.
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Um I mentioned uh, the lean startup earlier by Air
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Greece. Um, he has this term called minimal viable products
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MVPs and oh my gosh, it's, it's such a phenomenal
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read because he talks about his companies that have failed
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because they spent so much time perfecting the product um,
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before finally launching it and then they launched, it wasn't
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exactly what the customer wanted.
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So they tweak it and tweak it and tweak it.
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So instead the lean startup, right?
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Like lean manufacturing, the idea is like just come up
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with a minimal viable product product that just barely works
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for the customer and deliver some value, but then can
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be tweaked and added on as it goes right?
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So learn from your failures, learn from the customer, okay,
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don't fail.
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And then say, oh man, that pilot project didn't work.
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We really screwed the pooch there.
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No, put together pilot projects, Figure out what it is.
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You learn from that and then apply it to future
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projects, um, and future changes and you're going to be
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in a great, great spot.
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Too many companies just like try to avoid failure and
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the good companies, the innovative companies know that failure is
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part of the ball game.
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Okay, let's talk about the role of corporate culture.
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Then, um, again, culture is, it can be defined kind
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of like culture is what people do, what employees do
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when no one's looking, right?
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And it's important to understand though, that a climate of
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innovation starts with a culture of trust, right?
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We're just talking about innovation.
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And so right here the same culture that encourages trust
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also encourages innovation.
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It encourages adaptability.
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That's what, that's the company that I want to work
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for, right?
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I want to work for a company where employees are
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more likely to innovate and experiment because they trust each
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other, right?
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They're not like, oh boy, I don't really want to
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help you with this because you're going to get all
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the credit and then you might take my job or
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get the promotion that I wanted.
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There's got to be a culture of trust within the
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organization so that people feel comfortable innovating, experimenting with each
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other. Um are not experimenting with each other, creating experiences
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experiments for the customer, trying to experiment with with with
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new products, new services and and that's that's what trust
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is all about.
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If we don't have that missing, if we don't have
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that ingredient, none of the rest of it works okay.
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If we don't have a culture of trust, we're not
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gonna be able to innovate, We're not going to be
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able to adapt to what it is the customer wants,
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right? Um And then it's also important to say that
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the most innovative companies have a really strong corporate culture.
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Okay? It's like innovation is a part of their core
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values. They're they're they have like, people love to do
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what they're doing okay.
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There's got to be a balance between exploitation and exploration.
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You can't just do one or the other.
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You've got to balance those two things.
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You have to have a balance between efficiency and innovation,
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right? Like I used to tell my innovation students, like
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if we're looking at like ways to get students to
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class on time and I want to put jetpacks on
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all of them.
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That's very innovative, but it's not very efficient, right?
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We've got to find a balance there.
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Um And lastly hold onto a core set of values
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while experimenting.
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Okay, You have to hold some things tight there.
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Um, let me end with this like the corporate culture
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that's most likely to stimulate and encourage innovative ideas is
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the one that tolerates dissent amongst its employees and it
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celebrates respectful disagreements.
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Okay. It's a culture which were employees trust each other.
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They trust management, but they're able to disagree and they're
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able to disagree respectfully.
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And that's the culture that's really going to make this
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customer centric company work.
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Okay. That wraps it up in two volumes.
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That's awesome.
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I hope you guys enjoyed the lecture series.
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I hope you guys found this last lecture series, um,
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as a good wrap up.
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And I'll look forward to seeing you again soon.
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