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Services and Non Profits Vol. 4
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Ryan Malm
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Okay. Welcome back to Volume four.
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This should weigh should finish off this Siris on this
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volume, but yeah, So I was talking about how do
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you decide what prices to charge for a nonprofit, Right?
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What we said earlier was we're not interested in making
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a profit.
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We're not interested in, um, you know, driving up the
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stock price, we're not interested in radar.
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Rate of return.
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We're not worried about market share is much.
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So how do you decide what price to charge?
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Right. And a lot of nonprofits try to charge the
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least amount possible to keep the doors open and to
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keep their company running right.
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And then it also is gonna depend on, like, this
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is actually really hot topic right now with nonprofits is
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trying to figure out like, well, how much of our
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how much of our operating budgets going to come from
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donations versus money that we charge.
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So let's say, for example, you're a food bank and
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you don't charge the customer anything.
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Then you're gonna need a lot in donations, right?
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Um but there but maybe somebody like goodwill.
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My, you know, they're charging you a price is just
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much much discounted on the products that you buy a
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goodwill. So they cover some of their costs with the
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price, and then then they may be covered.
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The rest with grant government grants and donations and such
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like that.
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The reason I say it's a hot button topic is
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when you donate your money to a nonprofit.
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When you donate money to a nonprofit, a lot of
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people want more transparency.
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They want to know like, Well, if I if, for
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every dollar that I that I donate, how much of
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it is going directly to the people that I'm trying
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to support eso Red Cross is like the biggest example
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of this.
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So, like let's say there's a hurricane and you want
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to support the people that are struggling in the hurricane.
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You donate to Red Cross.
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Oh, and then a couple years ago was being the
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research was showing that, like 80 cents out of every
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dollar was going to just like money to pay for
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salaries and and and just basically running Red Cross so
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that that kind of ticks, um, people off right when
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they found out only 20 cents out of every dollar
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was actually going to the hurricane victims.
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And so e think now all of the non profits
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are required to show, like what percentage goes directly to
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the Thean user And so But there are some accounting
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tricks. I've heard that companies can play to make it
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look better or worse, but that's just it's something interesting
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to think about.
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If you are gonna donate, you may want to take
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a look at that before you do it.
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Um and then So the last thing that nonprofits also
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need to take a look at is communicating their availability
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right? They're gonna have to create some brochures and signs
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and public service announcement advertisements, just like regular companies do
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to try to explain to their target market what it
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is they offer, right?
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And so that's always an interesting one, because they don't
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They're not gonna have the same kind of marketing budget
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as a big corporation, but they need to try toe.
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Um, it's the same type of deal they need toe
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create a message that works, and they need to create
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it in a form networks like it doesn't make a
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lot of sense to serve the homeless population and then
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run a bunch of TV ads if they're not able
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to watch TV that often, right?
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So in that case, brochures or signs might work a
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lot better.
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Okay, so how did the marketing goals and objectives differ
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for a non profit?
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So instead of focusing on making as much profit as
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possible, the focuses instead on generating enough money to cover
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your expenses.
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Right? A nonprofit means zero leftover money after you've charged
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after you've charged all the dollars.
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Um, you don't you don't bring home a profit.
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You don't give money to the owners.
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It's basically you raise enough money and you generate enough
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money through through the service is that you provide to
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offset all your costs.
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Okay. And the costs are salary.
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Um, it's buildings.
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It's the materials that you're giving away.
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Um, all that stuff, that's and so So that's different,
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right? That's different than making trying to just market to
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make this much money as possible, grow your market as
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much as possible.
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Um, one of the other goals is to show that
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you provide equitable, effective, efficient service is that respond to
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the wants and preferences of a whole lot of different
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people are You gotta make yourself seem valuable and seem
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like something that is been a benefit.
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Okay, Companies don't necessarily have to do that right there
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trying toe add value.
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But a non profits value statement is more like, Hey,
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this is a service we provide.
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And this is why we need tohave it.
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And this is why you should donate what's tough about
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the goals and objectives of a nonprofit those You can't
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just measure success based on how much money it generated,
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right? Because that Z, if you're working for a marketing
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department of a corporation, you're gonna put together a marketing
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plan and a promotion plan and you're gonna say, OK,
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we hope that it generates this much extra money in
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terms of a nonprofit.
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It's not about the money, right?
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You can't just say, Oh, are our revenues went way
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up after we did this marketing campaign.
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Well, that's not the most important thing.
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So it makes it difficult then to say like, Well,
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what do we want out of it, right?
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How do we evaluate the performance of a marketing campaign?
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Is it Mork?
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Customers come in?
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Is it more donations or given?
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Is it What is it, right?
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Like what?
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What is the litmus test to saying whether or not
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the marketing campaign when the goals were achieved or not?
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So let's talk about the target market, then of of
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a nonprofit.
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It's different as well.
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So one of the toughest things is that, Ah, lot
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of times you're marketing your your service, your or your
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organization to people who are apathetic or like even strongly
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opposed to receiving the service is, um, the example I
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have here in that photo would be like a food
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bank. I've heard some like, really emotional, touching stories of
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like Back on.
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I'm sure it's happening again with the current economic downturn,
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but I talked to some people at the food bank,
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Um, here in the Tri Cities, we're talking about the
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2000 and 8 2009 financial crisis, and it was just
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this really profound story of a lady showing up in
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her. Um, I think it was a Lexus SUV, and
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she basically came every day and parked and never got
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out of her car and then left because she really
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was against taking this handout.
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And in what turns out later to make a long
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story short.
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It turns out that like she had lost, she was
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a realtor and the housing market had tanked and she
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lost all of her income and she couldn't afford groceries.
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And it was really hard for her to swallow her
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pride and go take a service that she really was
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kind of, you know, didn't want to take.
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So how do you target a group of people who
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don't necessarily want to have to use it?
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Right? So that's a trick.
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That's that's a tricky one.
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Um, the other thing is, what's unique about this situation
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is that you You, um what's unique about nonprofits, I
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guess, is what what I was going to say is
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that they often times take a very undifferentiated approach, right?
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They use that shotgun method where it's just like, let's
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just throw out a message to everybody because they really
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they think because they have a limited marketing budget, they
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have to just, like, come up with one message that
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reaches as many people as possible.
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And so and they're trying not to be exclusion exclusionary.
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So they might.
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They might be pressured to not do target marketing.
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Okay, And because of that, maybe they're losing out on
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on helping Cem.
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Cem Important markets, I think, um, last but not least,
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um they have to identify and provide.
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Service is toe underserved markets, which are not necessarily the
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most profitable markets right there.
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Like they might not even help you, like in the
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long term, As much as some specific target niche that
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you might, you might say.
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Okay, we should, if we really want to survive, we
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should target this group, this group in this group, and
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then you say, Well, yeah, but this is the underserved
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group over here, and that's what our goal really is.
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Okay. And that's kind of goes against profit for profit
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companies, right?
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So it's a lot different.
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And so when you're marketing your company, you're trying to
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figure out a target in a nonprofit, you're not necessarily
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looking at that group that's gonna get you to the
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end or keep your company afloat for years to come.
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You're looking at who needs it the most, and so
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that's very different mentality S O.
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That makes marketing a little tricky.
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Okay, so that wraps everything up for this lecture.
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Siri's. We talked about marketing service is and marketing nonprofits
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on dhe next week.
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I believe we get into the next P of marketing.
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I believe we're gonna take a look at place and
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distribution. So if you guys enjoyed this week and we'll
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