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Yeah. Hi, my name is Milton Alfonso and I'm here
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to talk to you about Ike or the international cardio
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sell outcomes registry.
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I'm a surgeon at the Queensland Children's Hospital in Brisbane
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in Australia.
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I moved here in June 2012 from all the children's
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hospital in Liverpool in England.
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And soon after the movie, I was requested by my
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former colleague Tom Karl to consider using calm yourself.
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My only condition at the time was that we collect
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prospective data and the prospective data collection continues to this
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day and has now expanded into something more ambitious namely
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I car.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So what is cut yourself kill yourself is bovine pericardium
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that has been subjected to the adapt and the calcification
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process. The adaptive process transforms the bovine pericardium into an
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a cellular, strong pliable collagen scaffold all the notices for
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calcification including nucleic acids, alpha gal episodes, cells and cell
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remnants. And forceful methods are removed.
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The pericardium is then strengthened by cross linkage with mon
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America Blue Rally hype.
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The final step of the process and was detoxification by
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removal of the residual value add careers health comes stored
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in sailing and is available in different sizes off the
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shelf based on our experience with carry yourself over the
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past nine years.
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We have published three peer reviewed articles on its results.
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This was our first paper published in the seminars of
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thoracic and cardiovascular surgery in 2017.
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This was a purely histological study using conventional and immuno
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history chemical staining on six X plants, none of which
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were related to call yourself.
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And the study demonstrated that there was no calcification in
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any of the six implants.
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But there were signs of early remodeling with new fibroblasts,
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collagen deposition, new and timor formation and new revascularization.
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Yeah. This was our first clinical Paper published in the
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interactive cardiovascular and thoracic surgery journal in 2018.
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It involved 135 patients all from our center.
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And every patient in the study had completed 24 months
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of flour.
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The freedom from re intervention was 96 of two years
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and 95 of three years.
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There was no difference in performance in the systemic versus
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the pulmonary circulation and between units, infants and older Children.
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He then went on to publish a multi center study
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in the annals of Thoracic surgery in 2019.
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The study involved three centers to in Australia, Brisbane, Melbourne
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and one in the UK.
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The study involved 377% 377 patients.
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The freedom from the intervention at three and 5 years,
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96 percent.
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Yeah. And once again there was no difference in performance
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in the systemic opinion, every position or between the inmates,
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infants and all the Children.
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Which cardio cell was first developed by a company named
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Admiral. Is that is based in Malaga in both in
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western Australia.
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The factory is still in Malaga.
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I have been to the factory.
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All the bovine pericardium is sourced locally And 95 of
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this bovine pericardium is rejected because they focus on obtaining
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patches with uniform thickness.
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It's an absolute priority for the company.
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And our histological study demonstrated that the cardio, which was
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uniformly 400 migrants and thickness carousel nears even thinner.
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They select the tennis parts of the pericardium.
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It's uniformly 200-300 microns in thickness, making it a good
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match for pulmonary artery and wild repairs, especially in the
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younger Children.
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Uh huh.
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I said I alluded to earlier.
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We first began using carrier school in October 2012.
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2 centers that began using it at the same time.
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One was asked the other was the Royal Children's Hospital
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in Melbourne in Australia.
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Call yourself is used under the T.
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J. The therapeutics Good Administration's special access scheme.
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Yeah. Currently it's used in over 25 countries across the
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world and it's becoming increasingly recognized as a viable alternative
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to other mainstream materials for reconstruction in congenital heart defects.
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Mhm. As of today, cardio cell is being used in
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prison, pull it Melbourne in Australia.
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And the starship turned into hospital which is the only
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Children's hospital in New Zealand.
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Yeah. So now moving on to I call what distinguishes
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the registry is supposed to regional statistics in a registry.
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You collect some information on all patients in a research
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elevation, collect all the information want some patients in the
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registry. Where a systematic collection of a clearly defined set
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of health and demographic data that is held in a
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central database and its very nature makes it more powerful
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than multi center studies.
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Yeah. From the perspective of using cardio.
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So what is that?
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We would like to see from my core the collection
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of demographic details diagnosis, risk factor, operative details, morbidity, mortality,
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follow up three interventions and any possible astrology from England
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on the entire cardio self family.
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The data should be collected prospectively and ideally we'd like
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longer term follow up.
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There are to be entered into icon periodically.
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Our vision is to foster systematic multi center collection of
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data relating to the implantation of cardio self because people
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have large numbers in different economic locations.
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This will enable meaningful statistical comparison between groups and then
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we can use this knowledge taylor and improve outcomes.
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In order for I call to work.
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It needs to be based modern technology and huge approved
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to a large extent.
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Okay, we need a secure online application for building databases.
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The application must be highly versatile, must have customizable reporting
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functions must walk across various platforms.
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Both Mac and hand Roy.
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And the data must be exportable into a wide range
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of formats so that you can prepare reports or conduct
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research studies.
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There are several obvious benefits to having a registry of
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this nature to describe the use of cardio sail across
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several centers.
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We can produce annual reports.
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Daniel reports will give us basic demographic data uh information
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about the utilization of cardio sale in different centers in
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different anatomical locations.
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Okay. Mhm.
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We will be able to determine the early and late
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outcomes after surgery using card yourself from a research perspective,
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prospectively collected data is very valuable.
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Yeah. Okay.
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The large numbers of patients and different anatomical locations, different
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age groups makes for meaningful statistical comparison.
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All this information we'll give true meaning to the word
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informed consent.
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Yeah, yeah, importantly, the analysis will enable us okay from
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a surgical perspective to understand what cardio self doesn't perform
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as well as expected and we can tailor our surgical
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strategies as necessary.
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Okay. From the developers, person developers perspective this is more
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like a dream.
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Okay, that's good.
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And there's another major intangible benefit.
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Ah That's a very small subspecialty.
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And with I call we get to make friends.
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I call already has a government structure in place.
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There is a steering committee and the steering committee will
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always have either the director or nominated surgeon from each
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of the contributing billets.
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There's a management team.
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Um the data custodian for the database Jessica sooner is
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a clinical research manager.
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General Johnson is a clinical data manager.
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KIM Bets is the statistician, helps generate the reports and
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do all the research work that comes out of icon.
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It is the responsibilities of the management committee primarily to
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communicate with participating centres, provide advice and help with committing
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ethics or completing ethics and governance applications, designing content forms
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for each institute, validating data as best as possible, generating
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an annual report, facilitating research projects and for purely logistic
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reasons. We plan to focus on Australia and new Zealand
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and the countries in the AsIA pacific region in the
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first instance.
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But there are no barriers.
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Any unit across the world that is using Cardio self
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wants to submit.
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That is very welcome to join.
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Icahn requires ethics approval at the various centers and for
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all the units that are currently contributing data.
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We not only have ethics are proven, but we have
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data sharing agreements across borders.
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one big advantage of setting all this up up front
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is that it makes engaging in multi center research projects
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fairly uncomplicated from a governance perspective.
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Okay. Yeah.
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From a database standpoint has been developed in Red Cap.
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The research electronic data capture.
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Red Cap is a secure web application for building and
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managing online surveys and data bases.
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It was developed by a team at the Vanderbilt University
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in Nashville in Tennessee and while it can be used
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to virtually collect any type of data in any environment,
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it is specifically geared to support online and offline data
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capture for research studies.
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Okay. The current time, the red crab consortium, which is
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a vast support network of collaborators, is composed of 5000
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active institutional partners in 141 countries With 1.7 million users.
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And this data is accurate.
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As of April 2021.
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Red gap has several advantages.
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From an I cord perspective, it's highly versatile, it's very
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user friendly.
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I it's free for any users.
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All we do is pay a small annual field uh
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for housing the server, uh Children's health Queensland or rather
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in our hospital.
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It works across all platforms and across all devices.
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It works on any computer, It works on any laptop,
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it works on any mobile phone.
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The data is very easily exportable into a wide range
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of formats.
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You can run customizable creation simply export those queries into
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Excel. For example, I wanna really very good example of
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an existing international, existing bi national registry that has been
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very, very successful uh, is the Australian new Zealand Fontaine
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registry. Red Cap my I call is housed on a
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secure Children Children's health Queensland.
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So we're here in Brisbane as of now, as the
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management team.
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We are we are moving to face for the Red
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Cap database has been designed and tested.
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We have all the ethics approvals and network agreements for
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data sharing amongst the Australian centers and they a few
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international centers.
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We completed a pilot data envy data export and generation
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of an annual report and we are now ready for
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a wider rollout.
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Okay, okay.
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But Brisbane and Melbourne actively contribute to icon.
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Sydney has not started using Cardio sellers yet.
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New Zealand has recently started using Cardio cell and has
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joined the corners of April 2021.
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We have contributions from the university hospital in Leicester, Children's
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Hospital in Kuala Lumpur in Hong kong in Singapore.
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You're walking through data sharing agreements as of April 2020
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money but they have committed to participating in icon.
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What is it that we are looking to collect an
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icon? It's all fairly straightforward.
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basic demographic.
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There are like age, gender, primary diagnosis and country, right?
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Primary and secondary procedure.
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The type of patch the size of the patch, whether
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it's cardio, sailor, Carlos, Phil neal.
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How many patches, what locations the patches were used.
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That whether or not the patient at any re operation
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related to call yourself during the first admission from a
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follower perspective, what people really like as if the patient
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at any re intervention, be it an interventional procedure of
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a surgical procedure related to carry yourself whether there are
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existing problems at the site of uh Gardasil implantation that
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haven't yet met criteria for intervention.
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What imaging modalities have been used to diagnose these problems
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and any details around the explanation.
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Yeah, yeah.
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If you're planning to use card yourself, you would strongly
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encourage you to join a car and set up a
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system for prospective data entry.
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We have endeavored to make the process as straightforward as
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possible. All you have to do is Union Canal johnson,
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she's the data manager and request a startup back.
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She sends you out a couple of funds to complete.
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And most of this information relates who is actually going
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to be using cardio self, not just people that are
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going to need a password for access to the database
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once you complete the forms and she receives them, she
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will grant you access to a dropbox folder which contains
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all the registry agreements.
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It contains all the ethics approval documents that contains the
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actual study protocol, which we needed to submit for ethics
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approval. It has all the steering committee minutes, it has
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all the papers that have been published, not only about
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cardio, sorry, not only for my unit, but from every
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other uh, center in the world.
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Right, Okay.
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And then red cap contacts you directly with the user
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name and you set your own password.
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And that's really all you need to begin entering that
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up. You will simply have to go to the red
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cap, the red cap on site via the you are
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a search field in any browser, select your project and
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your username and password.
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And we can entering data.
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Now we strongly suggest that you get local ethics approval
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for I call and in this respect, if you send
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us the forms and give us the names of any
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individuals uh in your research governance office, we can help
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you with completing and submitting them.
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Okay. Okay.
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Yeah. We haven't caught their as yet because a considerable
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amount of manpower is necessary to maintain and monitor continuous
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online presence.
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And and for a start, I don't even have a
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facebook or to the regard, but hopefully we'll get there
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someday. If there's any information you need or if you
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think there's any way we can help you join and
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contribute to I call or you have, if you have
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any new ideas, please don't hesitate to get in touch.
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Emailing anyone of us is the same thing as emailing
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all of us.
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Mm Thank you very much for listening.
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