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The Giver vs. The Lord of the Flies

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Aniella Ingabire

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Transcript of The Giver vs. The Lord of the Flies

The Lord of the Flies
Similarities? Differences?
The Giver
Jonas is an eleven year old boy who seems more intelligent than his peers. He is more serious about life than anyone else. He gets the job of the Receiver.
The Giver is another protagonist in the story. He mentors Jonas in becoming a Receiver. He transports memories of color, feelings, and places. Jonas feels and sees these emotions and places for first time.
Ralph is the protagonist in the story. He is an athletic boy. He becomes chief and tries to find order in the story.
Jack is the antagonist in the story. He has conflict with Ralph, arguing about whose going to be chief. He ends up making his own society on the island, seeking for revenge.
Piggy is also the protagonist in the story. He is a wise boy. He helps Ralph figure out how to survive and how to bring order to the island.
Simon is one of the protagonist in the story. He finds the "Lord of the Flies" thinking that the beast was that. He warns his fellow schoolmates, hoping that it was the last time he seen something so horrible.
Ralph represents order, and civilization. As the chief, he tries to find a way to escape the island to help his fellow schoolmates. He embodies the idea of a satisfactorial order.
The Lord of the Flies:
The Giver:
The Conch represents fairness and leadership. Anyone who has the conch can talk without anyone interrupting.
The Giver symbolizes wisdom. He teaches Jonas how to feel and see.
Apple represented color.
Significance of memory to human life
The Lord of the Flies
Rules and order
Wisdom and knowledge
Rules and order

Coming of Age

Individuality and freedom of choice

The dangers of stability and predictability

The importance of human emotion

The importance of memory

The relationship between pain and pleasure

Loneliness and isolation

The Giver
The Lord of the Flies
Man vs. Society
The Giver
The Lord of the Flies
Man vs. Man
Man vs. Nature
Man vs. Self
The Giver
The Lord of Flies
Jonas Leaves the community with a baby (Gabriel) and attempts to find a new community
Ralph walks around the island and stumbles on a root, looking up, he sees a navy officer in the sand looking at him. Their rescue is FINALLY here.
Jonas finds out his dad's job is horrible and decides to leave because he doesn't want baby Gabriel to die and he wants to find a new community
The Giver
The Lord of the Flies
When Simon dies, the whole group became divided. Arguments erupted and hatred took place. Many fights happened causing many other injuries and death, such as wise Piggy.
Classical, with an old English dialect.
The Giver
The Lord of the Flies
The Community is the antagonist in the story. The idea of "sameness" and the limitations the community has such as no choices or emotions make Jonas go against these rules.
The Giver
The Lord of the Flies
The Giver takes place in a Community where no one gets to be what they want to be. Everything is chosen for them. No originality. No one is Different.
The Lord of the Flies takes place in a tropical island.
Utopian Society
A time in the Future
Dystopian Society
During a war
The Lord of the Flies represents the power of evil
Piggy's Glasses represents the power of science and intellectual endeavor in society
The Beast symbolizes primal instinct of savagery that exists with all human beings
Simon symbolizes natural human goodness
Good vs. Evil
The signal fire represents the connection of the boys to civilization
Jack represents the desire of power and savagery
Piggy symbolizes wisdom and scientific intellectual aspects of civilization
The new-child Gabriel, for Jonas, represented hope and of just starting anew, starting over
The river represented escape from the confines of the community
The sled since it was the first memory Jonas received, it symoblized Jonas's journey during his training and the discoveries he makes. At the end of the book, Jonas finds a real sled, symbolizing his entry to a world of emotion, color, sensation and not just memories
Order vs. CHAOS
Loss of innocence
Civilization vs. Savagery
Echoes the needed language that is demanded by Jonas' community
Somewhat suited to the nature of Jonas' discoveries about the richness of life
Jonas' father is one of the characters in the book (besides The Giver & Jonas) that sort of feels the complex emotion and difficult decisions. Since he has the job of Nurturer, he has this connection with the babies that are born. He does not believe in love, but he feels that emotion when he carries a newly-born child. When he does a release he can't celebrate the loss, but instead he feels guilty.
Jonas' Dad
The End
The island represents civilization, a home.
The giver is written from the point of view of Jonas, an eleven-year-old boy living in a futuristic society that has eliminated all pain, fear, war, and hatred. There is no prejudice, since everyone looks and acts basically the same, and there is very little competition. Everyone is unfailingly polite. The society has also eliminated choice: at age twelve every member of the community is assigned a job based on his or her abilities and interests. Citizens can apply for and be assigned compatible spouses, and each couple is assigned exactly two children each. The children are born from Birthmothers, who never see them, and spend their first year in a Nurturing Center with other babies, or “newchildren,” born that year. When their children are grown, family units dissolve and adults live together with Childless Adults until they are too old to function in the society. Then they spend their last years being cared for in the House of the Old until they are finally “released” from the society. In the community, release is death, but it is never described that way; most people think that after release, flawed newchildren and joyful elderly people are welcomed into the vast expanse of Elsewhere that surrounds the communities. Citizens who break rules or fail to adapt properly to the society’s codes of behavior are also released, though in their cases it is an occasion of great shame. Everything is planned and organized so that life is as convenient and pleasant as possible.
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What is it that is most appealing about children? Is it simply their physical beauty? Their openness to being loved and loving? Their playfulness, innate humour? Apart from all these qualities, in my opinion, children are beautiful because they posses something that every person is capable of loosing – the quality of innocence. Artists and writers endlessly explore the gap between innocence and experience. It is at one level, a subtle quality of ignorance. To not grasp imaginatively that death will come. To be ignorant of sex, likewise. To believe in the irrational Santa Claus, fairies, and monsters under the bed. And certainly the myth of the infinite power and goodness of parents. Innocence is also growth of self-consciousness, perhaps the tree of knowledge of “good and evil” referred to in the story of Adam and Eve. As defined in the dictionary, to be exact being innocent is the state of not being guilty of a crime or other wrong act, in other words it’s the freedom from guilt or sin through being unacquainted with evil (moral wrong). A lack of experience with the world and with the bad things that happen in life. A “loss of innocence” is a common theme in fiction, pop culture and realism. It is often seen as an integral part of adulthood. It is usually thought of as an experience or period in a child’s life that increases their awareness of evil, pain, or suffering in the world around them. Lois Lowry author of The Giver and Veronica Roth author of Divergent both portrayed remarkably a loss of innocence in their novels.
Jonas lives with his father, a Nurturer of new children, his mother, who works at the Department of Justice, and his seven-year-old sister Lily. At the beginning of the novel, he is apprehensive about the upcoming Ceremony of Twelve, when he will be given his official Assignment as a new adult member of the community. He does not have a distinct career preference, although he enjoys volunteering at a variety of different jobs. Though he is a well-behaved citizen and a good student, Jonas is different: he has pale eyes, while most people in his community have dark eyes, and he has unusual powers of perception. Sometimes objects “change” when he looks at them. He does not know it yet, but he alone in his community can perceive flashes of color; for everyone else, the world is as devoid of color as it is of pain, hunger, and inconvenience

When Jonas and other Elevens become Twelves, they receive their Assignments that assign them to their particular fields of profession. As someone with intelligence, integrity, courage, and a certain special capacity, Jonas is selected for the most honored and respected Assignment in the community. He is assigned to become a Receiver of Memories who will succeed the current Receiver. A Receiver of Memories is the one person in the community who has access to all the memories of the past. He must keep these memories within himself until he can train a new Receiver to whom he can pass them. The Receiver has knowledge of things that no one in the community has access to, but the Receiver also has the responsibility to shoulder the burden of sorrow and pain that the memories bring.

Jonas eventually comes to see the disadvantages to his society’s way
of removing all emotion from life, and he runs away, releasing the memories to the rest of the community.

... not ready to lie, not willing to tell the truth."

(connection between two contradictory terms)

Literary devices
"The classes were the same: language and communications; commerce and industry; science and technology; civil procedures and government."

"How could you describe a sled without describing a hill and snow; and how could you describe a hill and snow to someone who had never felt height or wind or that feathery, magical cold?"
Rhetorical question

Representative passages

He rested for a moment, breathing deeply. "I am so weighted with them," he said.

Memories may bring wisdom, but they also bring pain. The Giver forces us to ask if it's worth the suffering to gain the knowledge.

“If you were to be lost in the river, Jonas, your memories would not be lost with you. Memories are forever.”

Jonas cannot bear the burden that his new assignment has placed on his shoulders, and he tells the Giver he would rather die than keep them to himself. The Giver reminds him that if he dies, the memories will not die with him but will return to the community.
“He had seen a birthday party, with one child singled out and celebrated on his day, so that now he understood the joy of being an individual, special and unique and proud.”

This is referencing one of Jonas’s happy memories of a birthday party. It is there to serve as a contrast to the way in which the members of his community live, where they do not hold up the individual in high esteem, and they do not have unique feelings, and ultimately, do not have love.
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