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Romans 9:6-13

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Transcript of Romans 9:6-13

Romans 9:6-13
Knowing the Error
Pelagianism
Semi-Pelagianism and Arminianism
How they deal with Election
Conditional Election
Unconditional Election
God based His choice of people in response to what He saw that person would choose.
God chose those He would save not in any way based on the person and what they did or would do good or bad.
First Attack on
Unconditional Election
National Election with National Blessings
1. It is illogical that a National Election does not involve Individuals
2. The whole point of the illustrations is to show that not all Israel is True Israel
3. There are 'Children of the Promise' who are not Jewish
Romans 4:16-17

“16 That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring—not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, 17 as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”—in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist.”
4. The language used here is salvation language
5. The whole result of this illustration is the need to answer how this is a just choice by God to save some and not all.
Answering from the Text
Second Attack on
Unconditional Election
The Love and Hate Dynamic
1. The whole point of the text is to show God’s particular choice of those that are saved so it is about eternity and His particular saving love for some in Israel but not all of Israel.

2. We would freely embrace the reality of God’s love for those that are saved.

3. It does nothing to make it only national since nations are still made up of individuals and thus loved or hated.

4. The hatred and love are set apart from deeds.

5. The next argument in verse 14 tells us of what our natural reaction to this would be, that it doesn't seem just.

Answering from the Text
Dwelling under the weight of God's
God Hates Sinners
God Loves Sinners
God Shows Choosing Love
Psalm 11:5 “The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.”

Psalm 5:5 “The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers.”

John 3:36 “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.”
Grace is Initiating not Responding
Grace is God Loving not Being Loved
Grace is Choosing Us not being Chosen by Us
Galatians 1:15
“But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace.”
God's choosing love lays an immense weight of grace upon us.
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