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Atman to No-Self (Hinduism to Buddhism)
Transcript of Atman to No-Self (Hinduism to Buddhism)
* 1500 bce - 800 bce
* 800 bce - 200 bce
* Born 600bce - 440bce (debated)
Age of Sutras
* 400 bce - 500 ce
* 400 ce - ??? - 1500 bce - 800 bce
- Speculative and Metaphysical
- Atman is revealed Indian Philosophy: Vedic Age Indian Philosophy: Epic Age - Born between 600bce and 440bce (some debate)
- "Enlightened" or "Awakened"
- Suffering, Impermanence and No-Self
- Middle Way Indian Philosophy: Buddha Atman has always been -the debate does not seem to be whether there is an 'ultimate' something (not someone). Timeline Hymn of Creation
Non-Being existed-not nor being
Death then existed-not nor life immortal
Darkness was at first hidden by darkness [...] - 800 bce - 200 bce
- Upanisads (sit down and listen)
- Atman is inward ascension
- Must be learned Upanisads of interest:
- Maitri Atman
- is not known; is not understood...
- cannot be known by senses
- reached by intuitive insight
- reached by direct realization
- unknowable impersonal one
- truth, austerity, knowledge path
- obtained by instruction
- It is known as Being and Non-Being
- Tat Tvam Asi
- 2 Forms: formed and formless
- Noumenal: abiding
- Phenomenal: changing self
Doctrine of Chariot Rider
Om & 4 States of Consciousness Causes for Suffering (2nd Noble Truth)
- Self and Ego
- Permanence Doctrine of Impermanence
- There can be no self; no abiding ego
- Passing Away/Arising: Moment-to-Moment Doctrine of No-Self
- Melinida and the Chariot
- Ship at Sea Pratityasamutpada
- Rejects: annihilation of existences
- Rejects: "karmic debt" notion
Elements of No-Self
- All elements of being lack ego
- No Permanent Self-Nature
- Constituents are Transitory
- Rather than 2 Atman[s]
- Ultimate (Atman)
- Relative/Conventional (Being) Zen & China
- 20 ce Tat Tvam Asi
I will share my view of this notion of Self and No-Self; Being and Non-Being.
Visualize a body of water - look closely as the rain falls, impacting the surface. The water represents the Tao (noumenal) and drops are the manifestation[s] of Being (physical). If the drops represented us (Beings) the lifetime would be (birth) the fall from the sky -the drops extinguished (death) as they impacted the lake.
This is my vision of the Ultimate. Bibliography
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