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"We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness."

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Veronica Thompson

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Transcript of "We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness."

Place with no darkness
Doublethink
Doublethink will eliminate Winston's mind because he has conflicting ideas with what he thinks. The Partys goal is to eraticate doublethink from all minds.
Book Reference
On page 178, Winston and julia are in O'Briens office and are being debriefed on how to enroll into the brotherhood. After Winston and Julia agree to do all sorts of horrible things in order to support the brotherhood (like murder, sabotage, betray, and even commit suicide) O'Brien says "We shall meet again -- if we do meet again, in the place where there is no darkness."
After being held in the ministry of love for
what we presume to be a few days Winston
finally cracks due to all the nagging from his questioners ...
"after hours of questioning, even this appeal could reduce him to sniveling tears. in the the end the nagging voices broke him down more
completley than the boots and fists of the guards." ~pg 242
"We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness."
Seven Years ago that he was walking into total darkness through a room as someone elsse in the room said "We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness." Winston recognized that the voice was O'Briens. Winston didn't know exactly what it meant, but was still confident at one point in time it would come true. This is the first time the book mentions "the place with no darkness."
This phrase refers to Winston's mind in the sense that winstons mind is constantly being used, usually thinking a negative thought, but ever so often a positive one will show up. The physical place of no darknesss is the Ministry of Love where Winston goes later in the book after being caught with Julia.
This was O'Brien's warning to Winston. Because on page 244 O'Brien leans over Winston and says "I told you that if we meet again it would be here." He no longer refers to it as the place with no darkness, he refers to it as "here," the minestry of love. He is telling Winston 'I warned you this is where you would end up in the end for betraying the party."

Pg 25....."Seven years it must be- he had dreamed that he was walking through a pitch-dark room.....some as he passed: we shall meet in the place where there is no darkness."

Pg 144-145... "He was standing in front of a wall of darkness, and on the other side of it there was something unbearable.

pg 242 ..."There were also memories of another kind. They stood out in his mind disconnectedly, like pictures with blackness all round them"

pg 244...Not sure whether it was O'Brien's voice; but it was the same voice that had said to him we shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.
Rats
The rats in the novel were Winstons darkness. They were the thing that he feared the most in the whole world.
"He was standing infront of a wall of dakness, and on the other side of it there was something unedurable, something too dreadful to be faced. In the dream his deepest feeling was always one of self-deception, because he did in fact know what was behind the wall of darkness." ~pg 144
After confessing Winston realizes he cant distinct whats real and whats fake. He soon then starts confessing to crimes he didnt even commit. Even his memories begin to get foggy
"Like pictures with blackness all round them." ~pg 242
By: Veronica T, Jensen V, Sonja H, Evan D
How it Manifests into the Real World
Winston not only feels a hatred and fesr for rats, but shows major conflict within said place of darkness. It can also be the reason why his training took so long in Miniluv, and also why he betrays Julia in the end (Really though winston, Really?).
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