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Utopia Nowon 28 August 2013
Transcript of DZ2.Jan2012
Tesla Coil resonance frequencies
•Thereare two different main resonance frequencies f0 and f1, where f1= 1,57 X f0; for instance f0 = 1 MHz and f1= 1,57 MHz; the relationship is therefore : f1= f0. π/ 2(π= 3,141…)Frequencies relationship expressed by wavelenghts λ roportional as circle radius to arc Frequencies relationship expressed by wavelenghts λroportional as circle radius to arc 11π/ 2π/ 2
Originally Posted by Duncan
Why Hi again Dave perhaps you have miss understood my logic or I am being obtuse however I really don't want people wasting time effort or money so I shall try and amplify what I am saying please a/ watch this video and notice what occurs when pulsing DC or to give it another name a square wave is injected into a Hertzian resonant circuit Coil Resonance Tutorial 1 - YouTube in short regardless of what wave form triangle saw tooth whatever down to pulsing DC with duty cycle at hertzian resonance it is turned into a Sine wave by the coil. So why has ZZZZ stated pulsing DC do you think? Because the circuit is resonant to the linear wave as described many times and here again by EPD Part 1 of 6: Eric Dollard Tesla Longitudinal wave Energy SBARC Ham Radio with Chris Carson - YouTube watch this short series right to the end and you will see Eric tune to the linear resonant frequency which is 1.57x hertzian frequency and a wave travelling at 291000 miles /sec unless of course you would be kind enough to draw a distinction between rapidly pulsing DC and a square wave which I see as one and the same thing !
Thanking you in advance Duncan
linear resonance iin high power situations
Hey I'm scribbling and writing and trying my very best to alter a “mind set” that has been forced on us all, I too have had to eat the same feed as all the rest of the chickens. Its come down the chute and into my food bowl in carefully measured amounts at just the right time just as it has with every one else! You'll have to excuse me a moment I cant quite work out if some guy just came on thread to flog solar panels … stunning .. anyway as I said all fed the same crap at the same time, I am doing my very best to show as best I can in Practical systems where the sign posts to free energy are .. If you have watched the video's and links I have been posting and read the pdf (I'm still much in debt to pjk for his help with that) you will be getting a feel for the power and the wave for which we are seeking and how we might be able to use it.
I am leaning heavily on giants in the field and trying to make the elephant that’s sitting in the room stand up and whack everyone with his trunk,
I have explained that there is another type of electricity altogether, I have told you and shown you It bears no relation ship to any mathematical formula or indeed any of the principles that we have had trickle down the chute into our food / learning trough.
The education system has one purpose obedient drones George Carlin The Best 3 Minutes of His Career "The American Dream" - YouTube Well I'm going to try a slightly different tack .. The things that Eric Dollard and Steve Jackson and prof meyl have shown you are duplicated in high power electrical circuits so lets take a close look at that situation. As I said earlier the electrical people are taught the same subject as radio folks entirely differently (different set of feeders into our troughs different phasers/vectors different feeding times )and so are transmission line/ electronics folks they get wrapped up in baud rates but It all happens in electrical engineering too ! It does of course need translating , and I'd like to point a few of the obvious things before you read this short web-page, The linear resonance or full standing wave of which I speak (as opposed to to the herzian wave resonance which keeps cropping up with monotonous regularity) is called in heavy current engineering "Harmonic resonance", and not surprisingly just like the full standing wave in radio it is taught as a nasty dangerous thing that is to be avoided at all costs!
No one wants you learning about these things!! Do notice at “harmonic resonance” unexplained events occur transformers blow to pieces tremendous force is released , Unexplained is about right ! Unexplained to you .. it ain’t gonna come down your food chute in a hurry! But keep in mind that these reactances must be equal some where on a line, and left to its own devices would result in a randomly destructive monster, unexplained ?doesn't it occur to you that is what we must have ? Some thing unexplained that we are going to use and get unexplained power from?Unexplained is very different to unknown you can take it to the bank if there's something that can do huge amounts of random damage to the power structure and release huge amounts of energy quite a lot of people know the nuts and bolts. Its part of our puzzle... and a clue to the transformer matching is here also I feel .Transient high voltages ? or High voltages moving around isn’t that what we want and crave? Why they make it sound like a bad thing! don’t seem right does it?.. Harmonic resonance even sounds sorta sweet don’t it? Anyway here it is in heavy power engineering Harmonics Resonance | Electrical Science
parallel vs. series spark gap
Often discussed and still not resolved. I do not want to discuss the Teslian "magic" but the known implications along with a HV source. If these basics are not known the magic will not occure - very probably. (Please consult Patrick's schematics if you intend to follow thoroughly)
An NST is a device necessary to light neon lights. Accordingly it should perform as AC source with high duty ratio. Neons like that and their plasma lights as long as we have current flowing. A Sine is a possible shape and a square as well.
Even if a NST is internally of fly back type the output might be smoothed in order to get the signal required by neons and to prevent electromagentic interference. Imagine the long wires at neons along with the plasma length itself - very nice TX antennas! We are not allowed to give them the frequency in order to radiate.
If we apply such a neon HV source directly to a coil with a parallel spark gap - depending of our signal shape - the circuit has two choices.
2a. The edges are not steep. This is very probable at NSTs because they are not allowed to emit electromagentic disturbance above a standadized limit. The manufacturers comply by reducing the steepness. This applies definitely to resin blocks as normal HV transformer emitting sine shaped signals.
Now what happens to our coil? It draws current and draws and draws.... up to the 16 mA our NST can deliver.
If we have resin block sine shape the voltage at our coil will be very low. The spark gap will do anything but fire - and laugh!
If we have a 40 KHz NST the chances are better that the coil will oppose and build up voltage. It is a small chance: depending on inductance it will not and behave same as resin block because of higher frequency. But usuall it will not perform. No parallel spark!
The problem with edges not being steep is - they have too few high frequency components (see Fouriee decomposition of signals). So the prallel tank circuit does not see it.
Imagine the bell being pushed by hand only.
BTW: There are some setups where the coil is blocked by 2 additional capacitors iin order to overcome the coil short circuit. (Sorry no schematic at hand but Zilano gave the circuit)
2b. The edge is steep enough and contains high frequency components - see fly back condition. But very probably the FB will give better and more reliable results.
2c. The NST complyes with the resonant frequency of the coil or its harmonics. Then we have a perfect team. But we have no pronounced kick and it is questionable if this setup will work. But please take in account that there are many known principles in order to get OU. Tesla kick is one of them.
3. Now we apply this NST source to a serial spark gap. That's fine because the spark gap inhibits initial current flow and a short a circuit will not take place. The capacitor gathers charge and at a sudden moment the spark gap fires and voi la - we have our short pulse with very high frequency components (Fouriee). The tank circuit is eager to get this pulse in order to convert it into own oscillations.
4. Now let's have a look to a fly back setup (given the output is not being smoothed by capacitors) This is like ignition coils are operated - normally. The FB here emits short high voltage (Bedini like - mechanically controlled) pulses not being smoothed by output capacitors.
BTW: Keep in mind that you can operate any ignition coil (or TV FB) as non FB transformer and then the NST condition should be taken in account. As rough rule: If you have two driver transistors directly at primary coil -> it will very probably be no true FB (like Royer oscillator)
4a. We apply a parallel spark gap. That's fine. Our FB pulse is high, short and contains a lot of high frequency components (Fouriee). The coil will take some current, build up a (small) magnetic field, the coil capacitance will get some charge and the the gap fires and the tank does its thing.
4b. If we apply a serial spark gap -> our FB pulse is not so important because it charges a capacitor first and the firing of the gap will be done out of the capacitor.
- Please understand this as primer in order to understand basics. It is not meant as a complete view to all possible implications - though there are plenty of them. I hope you to understand now better some of Zilano's notions regardiing NST/FB vs. parallel/serial SG.
- This is not meant as discusson on Teslian matters. But as they live in this standard physics (as one facette of the reality) as well it is essential in order to give them room and comfortable environment.
- Conforming Tesla and others it is essential to have short HV kicks and it's your choice how to generate them. This discussion is NOT meant to discuss if we need sparks or not. Experiments will decide.
- You can get any method discussed above to run well. Fortunately the world and reality is colored and not B&W. My intention ist to show up what you deal with und please choose those methods where you feel to have them understood in order to devise successful experiments. There are three essential only to obey: tune, tune tune!
- These notions were devloped along with many different posts by all of you. THANKS! I share and mirror back my conclusions in order to give YOU the chance to refine them and find YOUR path to OU.
The most important Zilano post
The most important Zilano post is the one where the breakthrough was made. This was when Zilano concentrated on simply getting an output transformer into resonance and Zilano then worked backwards. I suggest we do the same. We don't have to make a 220v 50hz 5kw or a 110v 60hz 5kw machine first. Even a 1:1 perfectly resonating output transformer should get ou. Once there, the rest is just conventional electronics straight out of the book. Think about it....
Page 27 is the area to which you refer .. Not only is it two resonant points, The lower frequency being Hertzian electricity and the higher much faster wave being Tesla linear wave power
Whale wave form !?
Thanks to : http://www.future-technologies.co.uk/index2.htm