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Debating the Grail
Transcript of Debating the Grail
Marion Zimmer Bradley
Mid-twentieth Century Feminism
Conflicts of Church and the Old Way
Love for his father
Grail & Feminism
Grail & Goal
Grail & Philosophy
Reliance on religion
Importance of the grail as a religious symbol
Belief in science & humanity
Transformation of the grail from religious to more applicable
--Time & Change
6th, April, 2014
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
Harry Potter (2001 - 2011)
Various Objects (Sorcerer's Stone, Goblet of Fire etc.)
Revenge for parents
Glory Road (2006)
NCAA Championship trophy.
Win against all odds
National Treasure (2004)
"What is it we are questing for? It is the fulfillment of that which is potential in each of us. Questing for it is not an ego trip; it is an adventure to bring into fulfillment your gift to the world, which is yourself. There is nothing you can do that's more important than being fulfilled. You become a sign, you become a signal, transparent to transcendence; in this way you will find, live, become a realization of your own personal myth." --Joseph Campbell (1904 - 1987)
The Templar Treasure
Strengthen relationship with father
Prove that the treasure exist
Clear his family name
The Archer's Tale (2001)
The lance of St. George
The Wasteland_T.S. Eliot
Modern day interpretation of the grail.
Not given the respect they deserve
'Impossible to obtain?'
T.S. Eliot (1888 – 1965)
Post war disillusion
Sacramentalist: all experience as one
From Ritual to Romance
Interpretation of Fisher King Myth
Grail & Wasteland
Fertility and Sterility
Salvation from religion
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Christianity has traditionally played a central role in the legend of King Arthur; however, for contemporary literature, as well as contemporary culture, the notion of a goddess figure has once again become important.
The Child of the Holy Grail (2000)
Rosaland Miles (contemporary)
Christianity is endangering the Goddess
Guinevere finally restore Women's rule
Grail remains a recognized symbol
Has become adaptable, but not empty
Magna Carta Holy Grail (2013)
Individualized Goal :
To produce perfection
Can't be obtained
Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)
What is an empty signifier?
It is a signifier that absorbs rather than emits meaning.
The Grail is not an empty signifier
Both emits and absorbs meaning
Retains traditional grail characteristics
Adapted to many modern situations
Modern applications are rooted in traditional grail meanings
Chretien de Troyes Perceval
The Holy Grail
Satire of grail, grail quests, and knighthood
Progression of the grail
Victorian adaptation: social responsibility
Medieval grail: religious symbol
Modern day grail: applicable to many situations
The grail survives in a secular society by absorbing meaning
Closely tied to old grail
Actual grail is present
"Lance-grail" reflective of modern interpretation of grail
Adaptations extend characteristics of traditional grail
The grail has transitioned from a religious symbol to a more applicable symbol
The grail is still recognized as both the medieval grail and the modern day grail
Feminist movement causes grail symbol to absorb new meaning
Strengthens old meaning and old tie to religion