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Brave new world Chapters 16,17,and 18

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Transcript of Brave new world Chapters 16,17,and 18

The police leave Bernard, John, and Helmholtz in Mustafa monds office.Mond a arrives and asks the Savage if he likes their civilization. John does not, but he adds that it does have some nice things .Mustafa quotes Shakespeare to him The Savage is thrilled that someone else knows Shakespeare. Mustafa indicates that although he forbids reading things such as Shakespeare, he can break the rules because he created them . . Mustafa admits that happiness is never quite as great as tragedy. They then discuss the Bokanovsky groups. Mustafa points out that an entire society of Alpha Pluses would create social chaos. He mentions an old experiment on Cyprus that had attempted a society of Alphas. That society soon disintegrated into a civil war, and in the end, they asked the World Controllers to take over. Mustafa then tells Helmholtz and Bernard that he will send them to an island where social misfits go. Helmholtz chooses to go to the Falkland Islands in order to write. His reasoning for the choice is that bad weather promotes better writing. He then leaves to make sure Bernard is safe.
Chapter 16 summary
Corruption: Mustafa Mond recites Shakespeare to John which just proves that he is not a true follower of the society he created.

Longing: Helmholts discusses about how he wants to write something like othello, he wants to produce real emotion and that is why he choses the island he does, to write about the emotion that bad weather can spark.
Themes and Motifs
Chapter 17 summary
What are the things Mustapha Mond says had to be given up for happiness?
How did Mustapha Mond become a World Controller?
Where is Helmholtz being sent? Why?
What was the experiment conducted with the Alpha's? Why didn't it work?
What is "optimum population"?
Discussion questions
Brave new world Chapters 16, 17, and 18
By. By. Barbara Meinecki, Clara Lopez, Cameron VanDerLinden, And Adriana Arnold
The Price of Happiness, Individuality
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the over-compensations for misery. And, of course, stability isn't nearly so spectacular as instability. And being contented has none of the glamour of a good fight against misfortune, none of the picturesqueness of a struggle with temptation, or a fatal overthrow by passion or doubt. Happiness is never grand." - Mustapha Mond
Maybe happiness might not be all that to the savage, but it's grand to the people in the world state, because that's all they know. Unlike the the people in the World State, the savage has experienced the beauty of all the negative emotions.
Totalitarianism, The Cost of Happiness
"You've got to choose between happiness and what people used to call high art."- Mustapha Mond
Art is something that creates emotions and that's exactly what the World State doesn't want so they got rid of "high class art."
Totalitarianism, Technology, Control, The Price of Happiness
"The world's stable now. People are happy; they get what they want, and they never want what they can't get... And if anything should go wrong, there's soma."- Mustapha Mond
They can't want what they can't get because they are so conditioned to dislike or like as they are told. The government has total control over their activities as well as their interests. They can't like what they've never had or experienced; ignorance is bliss.

Significant quotes
Group Observations
It was interesting to see even the world leader break the rules.

It was interesting when Mustafa Mond explains how everything we value in our current society; emotion, beauty, art, and even science, are no longer important in the society of Brave New World because they cause unhappiness, so they gave it all up.

Helmholtz chose to go to an island with severely bad weather so he could write better in the harsher conditions. This demonstrates how devoted he is to literature and the way it causes emotions

Connection: like own society hey have people high in power or who have a say in the worlds state turn out to be corrupt or not what they seemed to be.
Religion; In chapter 17, there is a lot of talk about religion. Mond says that religion is like conditioning. We learn that John is strongly connected to religion

Corruption/censorship: Mustafa Mond reads passages of The Imitation of Christ to John but the people he controls are not allowed to read or have such things, like religion or books about religion. He is also corrupt because he is willingly reading these passages instead of thinking they are a waste of time or rubbish like he is supposed to think.
Themes and Motifs
Discussion Questions
Significant Quotes
Group Observations
Chapter 18 summary
Themes and Motifs
Discussion questions
Significant Quotes
Group Observations
Religion is the last sacrifice made by the old world to ensure happiness. Mustafa understands religion as something men turn to late in life when they become afraid of death. Mond explains that since society eradicated the fear of death and since science keeps everyone youthful until death, religion is unnecessary. He reads to John passages from The Imitation of Christ in order to demonstrate this previous society dependence on God, which he claims is no longer necessary. John complains that society prevents people from discovering truth for themselves. Mustafa and John then argue over the meaning of life and the pursuit of happiness. The climax of the argument comes when Mustafa says, "in fact, you're claiming the right to be unhappy." The Savage demands the right to poetry, real danger, freedom, goodness, and sin by making the powerful statement, "I claim them all." Mustapha merely shrugs and says, "You're welcome."
Helmholtz and Bernard go to visit John, who is vomiting in his room. John tells the two men that he visited Mustafa Mond that morning and asked if he could join them on the island. Mustafa refused his request, indicating that he wanted to continue the experiment of reconciling John to civilization.Seeking solitude, John runs away and finds an abandoned lighthouse, which he makes his home. Three days after delta minuses find him reporters begin to arrive, trying to get an interview.A few days later, while digging in his garden, John starts to think about Lenina. . He then grabs his whip and begins to lash himself on the back ferociously. Unluckily, a reporter is hiding in the woods and records the entire scene. The movie is made into a feelie days after the release lenina comes and talks to him Several hours later, John lies on the heather in a soma-induced sleep after an evening of sensual frenzy. When he wakes up and remembers what occurred, he cries, "Oh, my God, my God!" That night, the spectators that arrive cannot find him. They enter the lighthouse and see feet dangling from the archway. John has committed suicide.
Mustafa Mond says that since they have youth and prosperity up until the end, they can be independant of God. He also says that God is not compatible with machinery, medicine, and universal happiness. The people have chosen the machinery, medicine, and happiness over religion.

At the end of the chapter, John claims the right to all the things Mustafa Mond say, such as the right to grow old and ugly, to have syphilis and cancer; and many others. This is John’s way of saying that he is not a part of their society, and he is an independant person.
Throughout these chapters, John is no longer referred to as John, but as the Savage. This could be referencing to John officially not being a part of the ‘civilized world.’

John recoils at the sight of the young woman when she steps out of the helicopter, as if he knows her. As John goes to hit her with the whip, she cries out, “Henry, Henry!” calling for the man she came with. The only woman that John gets to know throughout the book, and is close with a man named Henry, is Lenina, meaning that she came to see John.
Based on the last paragraph in the chapter, what happened to John?

If Linda never died, how do you think the book would have ended?

In our society, what do we turn too when we are sad. ? (Not soma)

Who was the woman from the helicopter who tried to talk to John in chapter 18?

Independence: John finally gives up on society and becomes an independent person. He claims the right to being human

Passion/rage: When John thinks of Lenina he whips himself because has such passionate feelings about her that they became rage and the only way to act out is to harm himself.



Why was chapter 17 devoted specifically to why religion and God was given up, instead of just being mentioned in chapter 16?
Why do you think Mustapha Mond even owns Bibles?
What are your thoughts on Mustapha Mond letting John in on his secrets?
Why doesn't Mond get rid of John?
If you hadn't read the


Totalitarianism, The Price of Happiness, Individuality
"In fact,' said Mustapha Mond, 'you're claiming the right to be unhappy.' 'All right then,'said the Savage defiantly, 'I'm claiming the right to be happy."
This society is preeminent, and believes that the individual can be molded and shaped to best serve society, showing the amount of power the government has over the people. The people, unlike john, don't see the beauty in growing old (and ugly).
Totalitarianism, Technology, Control, The Price of Happiness
"There's always soma to calm your anger, to reconcile you to your enemies, to make you patient and long suffering. In the past you could only accomplish these things by making a great effort and after years of hard moral training. Now, you swallow two or three half-gramme tablets, and there you are. Anybody can be virtuous now. You can carry at least half your morality about in a bottle. Christianity without tears-that's what soma is."
This shows that life in the World State is too easy in the eyes of the Savage. Whenever confronted with a problem, instead of facing it and conquering it, the World State just eliminates it for the sake of "happiness".
Totalitarianism, Control, The Price of Happiness, Individuality
"The Gods are just. No doubt. But their code of law is dictated, in the last resort, by the people who organize society; providence takes its cue from men."- Mustapha Mond
This is an expample of how the government uses an invented social construction to keep its citizens in check. After all, why do they need religion when they have soma and hypnopaedia
Totalitarianism, Control
"We want the whip!"
This shows how the people are easily influenced when they are confronted by someone of "society".
Corruption
"Fry, lechery, fry! ... Oh, the flesh!... Kill it, kill it," - The Savage
When giving in to what society says, he kind of gets carried away with his actions.
Individuality
"Oh, my God, my God!" The Savage, pg. 264
Here the Savage expresses his religious background.
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